Wily Coyotes

Deborah Wolfe on Pet Life Radio

Is Ozzy Osbourne an animal lover? He did save a Pomeranian.  Are coyotes smarter than dogs? Yes, and No.  Deborah describes some key differences between coyotes and dogs.  Honorable mention to the Dogs and cats     in Gaza & Israel.  Deborah responds to a Deb Wolfe -Pet Expert YouTube viewer questioning the morality of having the vet neuter two new rescue kittens “Cheech & Chong” with a math equation.

1 unspayed Mama cat x 1  intact Papa cat + 5 years =11,000 new cats born.. and that’s why it’s so important to spay and neuter cats! They can make babies at the young age of a few months and get pregnant over and over every couple of months.  And further trouble comes from the Intact males, both dogs and cats who go a courting looking for mates and get into fights and car accidents or find predators or trouble.

Listen to Episode #175 Now:

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<Deborah Wolfe> And you probably love hearing all about how to train them and the crazy things, interesting things they do.

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<Deborah Wolfe> So, if there's something I'm not talking about, and you'd like me to talk about it, a topic, a suggestion, a guest, if there's something you want my opinion on, or if you've got a dog or cat that's misbehaving, you've got a question, then please send it to Deb at PetLifeRadio.com.

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<Deborah Wolfe> And you can do that with a voice clip.

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<Deborah Wolfe> You can just record it on your phone and send it while you're waiting somewhere, and I'll play it on air and then answer it on air.

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<Deborah Wolfe> So, I would love to hear your suggestions, hear your topic ideas, and give you the advice you need on the dogs and cats you've got.

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<Deborah Wolfe> So, it's very rewarding for me when I can hear the person with the problem describing the problem in their own words.

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<Deborah Wolfe> So much better than me reading it.

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<Deborah Wolfe> And if you do leave me a problem, a pet problem, please tell me a little bit about your pet.

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<Deborah Wolfe> So, how old, how long have you had him or her?

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<Deborah Wolfe> Is she or he spayed, neutered?

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<Deborah Wolfe> That sort of a thing.

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<Deborah Wolfe> Has anything changed recently since the problem started?

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<Deborah Wolfe> Give me a little bit of background so I know what I'm working with.

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<Deborah Wolfe> Type of pet, size of pet, that kind of thing.

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<Deborah Wolfe> Okay, everybody, let's go to the show.

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<Deborah Wolfe> So, I was thinking about how sometimes we kind of get the wrong end of the stick.

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<Deborah Wolfe> As the British say, we kind of get the wrong take on things.

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<Deborah Wolfe> So for example, Ozzy Osbourne.

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<Deborah Wolfe> When I hear the name Ozzy Osbourne, I do not think of an animal guy.

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<Deborah Wolfe> No, I don't think of a guy who loves dogs, even though if I watch the reality show, I could have seen that.

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<Deborah Wolfe> But what I think of is some horrible incident that probably went wrong on a stage somewhere with baby birds in an act he did in the 80s that made the newspapers.

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<Deborah Wolfe> And it was terrible.

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<Deborah Wolfe> And the birds were harmed and bats and birds and he did all kinds of gags on stage back then.

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<Deborah Wolfe> So that's what I think of.

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<Deborah Wolfe> But then I was researching for the show and I realized, you know what?

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<Deborah Wolfe> He did live with all those dogs, all those really poorly behaved dogs that pooped and peddled wherever they felt like it.

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<Deborah Wolfe> And at the time when I would see that show as I was flicking through the channels, it would just make me crazy as a dog trainer.

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<Deborah Wolfe> I would think, call me, call me Ozzy, I could fix this for you.

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<Deborah Wolfe> How can you deal with all these poops and pees everywhere?

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<Deborah Wolfe> They were constantly, almost every show, looking for a poop somewhere or the cameraman would close in on a tiny little dog doing the deed on the carpet.

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<Deborah Wolfe> And so I thought, maybe.

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<Deborah Wolfe> So I looked him up yesterday and it turns out he's actually a little bit of a pet hero.

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<Deborah Wolfe> Yes, Ozzy Osbourne, of all people, saved his wife Sharon's Pomeranian called Pippi from a coyote back in 2003.

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<Deborah Wolfe> So Ozzy Osbourne, you're not all bad, not all bad in the eyes of the animals.

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<Deborah Wolfe> So I thought I'd just kind of correct the impression, if that helps a little bit.

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<Deborah Wolfe> All of you thinking of him, I'm sort of shuffling along on the show and he's slurring his words and barely unintelligible.

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<Deborah Wolfe> They used to put words underneath them so you could subtitle, so you could hear what he was saying, even though he spoke English.

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<Deborah Wolfe> So it's hard to imagine him being a hero and wrestling a small dog from the jaws of a coyote.

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<Deborah Wolfe> Very hard to imagine.

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<Deborah Wolfe> So way to go, Ozzy, way to go.

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<Deborah Wolfe> Yeah, just the other day, I saw on my Facebook post for my local neighborhood, someone lamenting the fact that they just saw a coyote run off with a Rottweiler pup in its mouth and the pup seemed limp.

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<Deborah Wolfe> It probably was, it was probably shaken to death already.

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<Deborah Wolfe> So that's a blessing, but you gotta watch your animals.

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<Deborah Wolfe> Coyotes are everywhere.

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<Deborah Wolfe> They're probably the oldest canine.

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<Deborah Wolfe> They are very, very smart about certain things.

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<Deborah Wolfe> Now, Dr.

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<Deborah Wolfe> Stan Coren, he's been on the show and he argues that they're not so smart about many things, but there's a few things they're really smart about.

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<Deborah Wolfe> We're gonna go to break and come back and talk about that on Animal Party Pet Life Radio.

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<Deborah Wolfe> Hello, we're back on Animal Party on Pet Life Radio and Coyotes.

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<Deborah Wolfe> Okay, so some things that we measure, and Dr.

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<Deborah Wolfe> Stan Coren, the professor, he did a book called The Intelligence of Dogs, and in it, he came up with a whole lot of tests for dogs.

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<Deborah Wolfe> They test different kinds of intelligence.

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<Deborah Wolfe> So, just to put it in kind of simple terms, a dog's ability to find food, a dog's ability to escape, a dog's ability to understand commands, a dog's ability to problem solve, a dog's ability to think on his own, like these types of different mental tests.

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<Deborah Wolfe> And he would argue that coyotes fall short on most of these things, these things that over time, domestication, breeding and being around us has made our dogs so good at, like the human animal connection, memory and training and this sort of thing.

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<Deborah Wolfe> But don't cut the coyote short.

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<Deborah Wolfe> He is able to manipulate our dogs.

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<Deborah Wolfe> He is able to fool our dogs.

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<Deborah Wolfe> He is able to trick our dogs.

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<Deborah Wolfe> So it's a reason they call the coyote the trickster in First Nations lore, Aboriginal lore all over the world.

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<Deborah Wolfe> The coyote is the trickster because that is exactly what he does.

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<Deborah Wolfe> He will pretend to be lame to draw another dog out, make the other dog think everything is okay and approach him and then boom, he's not lame.

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<Deborah Wolfe> And not only is he not lame, but he's not alone.

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<Deborah Wolfe> And now a bunch of them ambush the, what they see as the rival dog, the rival canine from a rival pack on their territory.

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<Deborah Wolfe> Oh yeah, it's a little bit of West Side Story and coyote world.

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<Deborah Wolfe> So you're gonna watch it.

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<Deborah Wolfe> Your dog is kind of of them and not of them at the same time.

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<Deborah Wolfe> So if you have a wolf cross or a coyote cross, your own dog is one of those, he is not gonna fall for any of this.

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<Deborah Wolfe> He's gonna smell them, know them, react to them, might even try to chase them away.

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<Deborah Wolfe> He might be trembling and staying close to you whenever they're around.

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<Deborah Wolfe> He knows.

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<Deborah Wolfe> But if your dog is a lab or a golden or a doodle, sweetie pie dog that's been raided multiple, you know, he's gonna get tricked.

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<Deborah Wolfe> And the little dogs, they see as prey.

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<Deborah Wolfe> So you really gotta keep them on a short leash, no flexy leash.

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<Deborah Wolfe> This is short leash or pick them up and carry them kind of deal if you see coyotes.

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<Deborah Wolfe> Because if you see one, there are many, there's not one, they don't travel solo.

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<Deborah Wolfe> So you're gonna see a lot.

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<Deborah Wolfe> Okay, so a couple more things about how smart they are.

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<Deborah Wolfe> So even though in some ways they're not as smart as dogs, they wouldn't learn a series of tricks as quickly, or they wouldn't learn to do an agility course as quickly.

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<Deborah Wolfe> However, they're more agile than our dogs.

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<Deborah Wolfe> In an actual natural setting, they would easily be able to traverse some kind of obstacle course more quickly than your dog or just as quickly, depending on what dog you had.

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<Deborah Wolfe> So they kind of are physically a match in all areas.

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<Deborah Wolfe> They might not be as fast as a greyhound, but they're fairly close.

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<Deborah Wolfe> They might not be as agile as a border collie, but they're fairly close.

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<Deborah Wolfe> They might not be able to jump as high as a boarzoi, but they're fairly close.

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<Deborah Wolfe> So they score so high in all these physical abilities that they're really, really outstanding predators.

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<Deborah Wolfe> And when you think of it, I mean, they are living off rats, but also occasionally when their group formation works, possibly a young deer or some animal like that, go something like that.

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<Deborah Wolfe> So that requires a lot of jumping and bounding and leaping in skills.

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<Deborah Wolfe> Okay, so they are perhaps smart enough or instinctive enough, I'm not sure which, it doesn't really matter, to walk in their own footsteps.

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<Deborah Wolfe> Now that's something I've never seen a domestic dog, not even a wolf cross or coyote cross do, but it is something coyotes do.

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<Deborah Wolfe> Now it may be just their anatomy, the way their bodies are built.

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<Deborah Wolfe> I don't know if it's a thoughtful thing or not, but what they do is they walk in their own footprints.

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<Deborah Wolfe> So what does that mean?

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<Deborah Wolfe> It seems like a minor thing.

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<Deborah Wolfe> If you were to look at a dog or a wolf track in the snow, you would see four paws, one, two, three, four, one, two, three, four, one, two, three, four, as they gallop, right?

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<Deborah Wolfe> Or if it's trotting, two, laying down in the snow as they go.

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<Deborah Wolfe> With the coyote, you're not going to see that.

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<Deborah Wolfe> They kind of trot with their front legs and do a sort of a canter with their back.

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<Deborah Wolfe> And some border collies, Australian shepherds do this.

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<Deborah Wolfe> So if you're saying, my dog does that, yeah, probably.

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<Deborah Wolfe> Okay, so, but the way the coyote does it is he makes sure that his feet fall into the footprints he's already made.

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<Deborah Wolfe> So instead of seeing two on the left and two on the right over and over and over, like a trot of a dog or a regular dog, or instead of seeing four prints, four prints, four prints like a canter of a regular dog, or one, two, three, four, like a walk of a regular dog, what you're gonna see is one print as if there's a one footed animal hopping, doop, doop, doop, doop, doop, doop, down the trail.

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<Deborah Wolfe> Impossible, right?

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<Deborah Wolfe> Yeah, but that's because he's walking in his own footprints all the time, so he only leaves one.

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<Deborah Wolfe> So if you think about that in terms of drawing a scent, if somebody's hunting you, but more with the coyote, in terms of not leaving a scent when you are hunting, it's so genius.

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<Deborah Wolfe> You got a quarter, a quarter of the scent you're leaving behind on your trail.

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<Deborah Wolfe> It's so smart.

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<Deborah Wolfe> So that's one thing they do.

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<Deborah Wolfe> Another thing, and this will be my last coyote fact for the day, although I have so many.

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<Deborah Wolfe> One more thing they do is they will take a female in heat, one of theirs, and put her in a place where she'll get noticed by canines not of their pack, and then they'll use that to dry out the enemy and kill them.

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<Deborah Wolfe> So that's another thing you've got to watch out for.

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<Deborah Wolfe> If you've got an intact male dog, he's got to find her, and he's going to be oblivious to the ambush.

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<Deborah Wolfe> So keep him on leash.

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<Deborah Wolfe> Keep him on leash anyway.

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<Deborah Wolfe> Intact male dogs are the most likely of all dogs to get hit by a car, and that's because they're out looking for the ladies.

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<Deborah Wolfe> All right, we're going to go to break and come back on Animal Party, Pet Life Radio.

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<Deborah Wolfe> And I'm gonna talk about cats.

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<Deborah Wolfe> Cats are amazing creatures.

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<Deborah Wolfe> I don't know if any other creature can do this, but dogs certainly can't, people certainly can't, horses can't.

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<Deborah Wolfe> One thing cats can do that the animals I know best and my own kind can't is shrink their spine.

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<Deborah Wolfe> Oh yeah, really, really, really, really, I'm not making this up.

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<Deborah Wolfe> They can make their body smaller or bigger, depending on the need.

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<Deborah Wolfe> They could stretch if they need to or shrink if they need to.

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<Deborah Wolfe> And if you've ever seen a cat, a big cat fit into a tiny, tiny space and then come out of it and almost expand, it's all about gas.

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<Deborah Wolfe> They have this weird kind of gas in their bodies that they can control and use as needed to increase the length of their spine.

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<Deborah Wolfe> It's really quite astounding.

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<Deborah Wolfe> So cats can jump six times their length.

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<Deborah Wolfe> So if you think about that in a people sort of a term, a lot of the athletes are about six feet tall, I guess.

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<Deborah Wolfe> Really?

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<Deborah Wolfe> Can anybody jump 36 feet?

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<Deborah Wolfe> No, no, they cannot.

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<Deborah Wolfe> And then I look at these two little kittens.

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<Deborah Wolfe> I rescued a couple of kittens, I guess it's like three weeks ago now.

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<Deborah Wolfe> They just had their first shots.

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<Deborah Wolfe> And in the first day home, they were like, I don't know, six weeks old, seven weeks old, something like that.

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<Deborah Wolfe> And they could already jump five times their body height.

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<Deborah Wolfe> You know, they're only like eight inches long, but they could jump a few feet, easy, up and down the cat scratch, in and out of everything, you know.

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<Deborah Wolfe> Well, I will do a whole show on them and all about how to teach stray cats gentleness and how to teach them to use the litter box and how to teach them how to get cats to get along with other cats.

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<Deborah Wolfe> I'm gonna do a whole cat show coming up.

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<Deborah Wolfe> Yeah, maybe next show.

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<Deborah Wolfe> Yeah, okay, so I'll tell you more about Cheech & Chong at that time, but that is what I want to leave you with.

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<Deborah Wolfe> Consider your cats or the cats you've seen in your life and consider how you can see them on the top of a roof or walking along something that's an inch wide, that's slippery and frosty and perhaps there's dogs below barking trying to unnerve them.

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<Deborah Wolfe> And yet with poise of an Olympic gymnast, they can fly along these surfaces.

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<Deborah Wolfe> They can fall, they can drop, they can dive, they can roll, they could leap.

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<Deborah Wolfe> They are the most astounding athletes.

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<Deborah Wolfe> And so we will just have to give them their due on that.

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<Deborah Wolfe> But they're also extremely reproductive.

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<Deborah Wolfe> And so very much, very, very, very important that everybody out there spay and neuter their cats.

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<Deborah Wolfe> So important.

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<Deborah Wolfe> It happens really fast.

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<Deborah Wolfe> They can have babies at about two months of age and they can have babies over and over and over again, even while they're still nursing.

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<Deborah Wolfe> Well, that's a little bit like humans, but more so than humans, because each time there's eight or 10.

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<Deborah Wolfe> So one cat plus one cat, right?

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<Deborah Wolfe> One boy cat and one girl cat.

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<Deborah Wolfe> If they're not spayed or neutered, even if they're brother or sister, does not matter.

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<Deborah Wolfe> Father and daughter does not matter.

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<Deborah Wolfe> One boy, one girl in five years potentially can make, you're not gonna believe this number.

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<Deborah Wolfe> It's a terrible number.

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<Deborah Wolfe> 11,000 cats, one boy, one girl.

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<Deborah Wolfe> So please spay and neuter your cats.

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<Deborah Wolfe> All right, I'm gonna leave you with that message today.

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<Deborah Wolfe> And maybe one more thing I wanted to talk about.

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<Deborah Wolfe> Just looking through the news as you do watching CNN.

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<Deborah Wolfe> And you know, dogs have been used by the military for as long as there's been war really, the scouts and sentries and trackers.

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<Deborah Wolfe> And usually they're German shepherds or malinois or some kind of military breed, not always.

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<Deborah Wolfe> But I was thinking about that and all the dogs of war.

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<Deborah Wolfe> And I saw a beautiful picture of a German shepherd doing explosive detection.

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<Deborah Wolfe> And no matter what side these dogs are on, when they find landmines, they're helping everybody.

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<Deborah Wolfe> Because any, I hate landmines.

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<Deborah Wolfe> Landmines are just so indiscriminate.

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<Deborah Wolfe> They don't hit soldiers, they hit animals and wildlife and farm animals and pets and children.

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<Deborah Wolfe> That's who landmines hit.

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<Deborah Wolfe> So when dogs are out finding them, it's an incredible thing.

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<Deborah Wolfe> But I also wanted to say that while I was watching CNN, I saw that this young hostage child, girl child had been released and they were talking to, I think her uncle.

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<Deborah Wolfe> I think that's who it was.

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<Deborah Wolfe> And he was saying he was on his way to visit her, to meet her.

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<Deborah Wolfe> She'd been away from her family and held in terrible conditions and treated terribly.

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<Deborah Wolfe> And they were very worried about her emotional and physical wellbeing.

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<Deborah Wolfe> And they were on their way to meet her and they had their dog with them.

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<Deborah Wolfe> They were bringing her, her dog.

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<Deborah Wolfe> And that just so hit home.

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<Deborah Wolfe> That's what the dogs do.

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<Deborah Wolfe> There were two Palestinian Gazan citizens on the street, two women that were interviewed and each was carrying a house cat.

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<Deborah Wolfe> That's what they do.

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<Deborah Wolfe> That's what pets do.

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<Deborah Wolfe> They comfort you.

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<Deborah Wolfe> They stand by you, give you a reason to keep going.

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<Deborah Wolfe> They give you strength.

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<Deborah Wolfe> And that little girl coming home from the worst of the worst is about to get a huge dose of normal from that dog and love and acceptance and no questions asked.

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<Deborah Wolfe> And she could talk or not talk, touch or not touch.

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<Deborah Wolfe> It's a beautiful way to welcome her home.

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<Deborah Wolfe> So I just want to salute that dog and the uncle who had the good thought to bring the dog.

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<Deborah Wolfe> All right, everybody.

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<Deborah Wolfe> From me, Deborah Wolfe and Animal Party and Pet Life Radio, be good to animals.

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