The Most Beautiful, Inspired & Artistic Tribute Book I’ve Ever Seen, To Dogs We’ve Loved and Lost. You Must Know About This

Jody Miller-Young on Pet Life Radio

This is what you read when you open the book. "You are holding not only a tribute to a beloved dog but also a story of love, loss, grief, and healing. Our beloved dog, Boris, tragically perished while saving our family from a devastating house fire. We were transformed by this experience and honored him by naming our son after him. After a time of reflection and growth, I wanted to use my talents to pay tribute to him, honor all dogs, and create something worthy of a dog's love.” This is written by Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor, the photographer & artist behind the beautiful tribute book, Remember Me As Sunshine. WARNING: This interview is raw, filled with emotion, some tears and a lot of love. This book was given to me by a mutual friend of ours, when my beloved Sophie passed away. I sobbed over it and have done so many times since. Meeting and then interviewing Jacqueline, who is not only an very talented artist but an incredible human, and sharing her story and this book is a tribute to all pet parents who’ve loved deeply and lost and it is an inspired way to find solace and celebrate these beautiful beings we loved so much. I hope you enjoy. 

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Announcer: This is Pet Life Radio.

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Announcer: Let's talk pets.

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Jody Teiche: Every once in a while, as it doesn't happen often, you meet someone or you come across something that strikes you deeply.

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Jody Teiche: And my guest today is that person.

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Jody Teiche: I first learned about Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor, and I'm hoping I'm pronouncing that correctly, because a friend of mine, who is becoming a very good friend, sent me a book to honor the passing of my beloved Sophie, my doggy, last October.

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Jody Teiche: And the book struck me so deeply in its thoughtfulness, its beauty, its care, and its artistry.

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Jody Teiche: That I just wanted to know more about the woman who put this together.

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Jody Teiche: And Jacqueline, no surprise, certainly, when you see this book, is an artist.

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Jody Teiche: And she has a powerful story of her own that inspired this book.

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Jody Teiche: And this book is called Remember Me As Sun...

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Jody Teiche: Oh, God, I'm going to cry in this interview.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: I'm sorry.

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Jody Teiche: Remember Me As Sunshine, Love Notes from my dog.

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Jody Teiche: So I want you to meet Jacqueline.

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Jody Teiche: We're going to have a conversation with her about this book, how this book is intrinsically interwoven with her life.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: Let's talk pets on petliferadio.com.

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Jody Teiche: Welcome back.

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Jody Teiche: You're listening to Bark And Swagger on Pet Life Radio.

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Jody Teiche: I'm Jody Teicher, your host.

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Jody Teiche: We're here today with a very special guest.

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Jody Teiche: Her name is Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor, and she is the author and artist behind a remembrance book called Remember Me As Sunshine Love Notes From My Dog, which was probably the most beautiful gift I got when my beloved dog Sophie passed almost a year ago.

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Jody Teiche: I am so excited for you to meet Jacqueline and hear about her story, her inspiration for this book, more about this book.

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Jody Teiche: So welcome, Jacqueline.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: Thank you so much, Jody.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: I am truly honored.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: What a gift, truly.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: Thank you.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: Thank you.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: Thank you.

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Jody Teiche: Thank you so much for being here today.

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Jody Teiche: I think that because there are so many people around the world who love our animals so profoundly and so deeply, like you and I, this is such a beautiful, beautiful gift.

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Jody Teiche: Not only for if sadly a dog passes, or if yours or a friend's, but really just as an honor and remembrance to an animal that you love.

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Jody Teiche: So I'm very, very excited for you to share more about it.

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Jody Teiche: Tell my listeners how this book came about because the incident that sparked it was about 24 years ago.

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Jody Teiche: So tell everybody how this happened.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: So my husband and I had bought an old rambling salt marsh farm in New England, in Massachusetts, and we were fixing up this old house.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: We had a little girl who was just turned five.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: It was just this beautiful time in our life.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: And we had our dog, Boris, who we adored.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: Oh my goodness.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: So we had, he had come into our life when we were newly married, that beautiful time where everything is just pure and simple and here's this puppy.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: Oh my gosh.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: Our lives were transformed.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: We loved this dog so much that we used to have Boris appreciation days.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: We would make his favorite food and take him to places.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: It was just pure love.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: And then our daughter's born and it just builds on all of this.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: So we're restoring this old house in Massachusetts, this rambling old house.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: It was a four year restoration.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: And the very last bit of the restoration, we were having the kitchen painted.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: We hired some workers.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: We didn't know it.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: They shut off the smoke alarms, which were hardwired and put newspaper into a recessed light fixture.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: The newspaper smoldered, fell onto their drop cloths, which were covered with solvents, created a bomb, exploded.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: And our dog was sleeping by our bed.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: He usually slept in the kitchen, and he stood up in the middle of the night, cold New England, February night, and barked like we had never heard him bark before.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: It was a growling bark.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: Like, goodness, it was unlike anything.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: And my husband jumped up and grabbed our daughter, ran down the staircase first, I'm sorry.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: And when he went into the first level of the house and opened the kitchen door, Florida ceiling flames that just were fueled now by the oxygen in the room became a backdraft, and the whole house was engulfed.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: He grabbed our daughter, I ran back to grab our dog, and everything had changed.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: My husband ran out the door, and I was in the hallway thinking I was going to die.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: My dog by my side, Boris, every step felt like 500.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: And I made it to the new old post, and the flames are whipping around the staircase.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: There's paintings, there's chairs, in the wave of fire.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: I mean, it's just extraordinary.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: And I made it to the door, Boris was by me, and the flames were whipping around the end of the frame of the door.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: And as I stepped out onto the porch, windows exploded and Boris went back.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: It was just a second.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: Oh my God.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: And we stood there and watched our bed catch on fire and fall through the living room floor, and the whole house was engulfed.

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Jody Teiche: Oh my goodness, I'm so sorry.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: Thank you.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: As artists, we had created everything in that house.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: It was a labor of love and it was filled with love.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: I mean, everything, everything.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: But to lose your dog, your best friend was unbelievable.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: And that night I ran from fireman to fireman.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: Please, my dog, please.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: There was nothing they could do.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: I mean, you could not enter the house.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: It was gone.

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Jody Teiche: An inferno.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: My goodness.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: So my husband runs to our next door neighbor's house.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: I'm standing there in disbelief, watching everything burn.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: My books, my portfolios, everything, everything.

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Jody Teiche: The lives.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: And our deluxe, just unbelievable.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: Then in this one moment, with all those down comforters and pillows and all that New England stuff that you have, out of this burst of fire, as high into the sky as you could see, all these white feathers exploded into the sky, thousands and thousands and thousands of them, and just fell all over me.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: It was one of the most beautiful, heartbreaking experiences.

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Jody Teiche: Wow.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: That moment, I just knew in my heart we were going to be okay.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: I don't know.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: Something was okay.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: There was a bigger picture.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: And shortly after, we had had two miscarriages right before the fire and then one after the fire.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: And out of the blue, we get pregnant with twins.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: And there's a little boy girl, and we name our son Colin Boris-Bokor after our time.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: So this book came out of this desire to use my talents to make something that really felt worthy of this experience.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: Because for me, everything changed when my perspective changed.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: So when at first it was my house burnt down, my dog died, it was now I survived a fire and my dog saved my life.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: And so I wanted to honor him and all dogs who are with us during all these moments in our lives.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: Who hold us, who are our confidants, our best friends, our soulmates, right?

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: And so we moved to California, and this is a beautiful, beautiful place to be.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: But I was missing New England, and we still have our home there.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: We're renting here, you know, transitional time.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: And as I was going back and forth across this country, visiting my family back in New England, checking in on the house, things like that, I always sat by the window and just was in awe that I'm here on this earth because of my dog.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: Started thinking about him, and I just started writing down all these little sentiments from him to me.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: And I just filled these little notebooks with them.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: And it turned into something that I wanted to capture.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: And so I took those love notes.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: So sweet.

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Jody Teiche: She has to insert herself in everything.

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Jody Teiche: Continue, Jacqueline.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: That just made me so happy.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: Oh, okay.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: Oh, beautiful.

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Jody Teiche: Suki, my cat has entered the studio, and she's made herself known.

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Jody Teiche: Please continue, Jacqueline.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: So as I started writing these notes and capturing them, I started formulating them into this bigger picture, where I started meeting these dogs in our neighborhood that all had stories.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: And somehow these love notes and poems matched personalities or matched a story, something connected.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: So I started photographing all these older dogs or soulful dogs, but most of them were in their golden years.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: And then I started planting the flowers our dog would have seen on a walk.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: I started making everything naturally and collecting things that made sense to our lives and different times in our lives with our dog.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: And from him speaking to me, I wrote back to him visually.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: So then I used all these big sheets of hand-painted paper and rephotographed everything exactly as you see it in the book.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: Because it was so important that everything be real, like the love of a dog, everything be exact.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: I mean, the butterflies are certified by the US government that they died a natural life cycle.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: To the extent, everything, everything in this book is love and honesty and purity, like the love of a dog.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: The stars on one page, in this room where I'm sitting right now, is where I photographed everything, because the light was just lovely at a certain time of day, just on the floor.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: And I took glassing paper and cut out stars and placed them all over these windows and waited till the light came down on low levels and photographed it and just lost myself in wanting to make something as beautiful as I could and something that I would give as a gift.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: That was so important that it be something that I was feeling was worthy of, Boris, of me being on this earth, of using my talents.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: On the receiving end, someone who opens this book, knowing that someone really cares about the experience and about your journey and honoring them.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: So everything's symbolic.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: Every single thing.

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Jody Teiche: Yes.

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Jody Teiche: I mean, to hear you talk about it, Jacqueline, I know for me, and I'm sure I won't be alone, the thoughtfulness and the deep meaning, the spirit, the attention to detail, all of it, artistry, that went into this book.

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Jody Teiche: It just jumps off of every page.

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Jody Teiche: And I want to bring it to life a little bit for our listeners.

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Jody Teiche: There will be some photos.

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Jody Teiche: I definitely want to include some photos.

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Jody Teiche: And actually what you're going to see too, if you go on to the Bark And Swagger page of the Pet Life Radio site, you're going to see one or two photos of what that house looked like when the fire went out.

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Jody Teiche: And it is a disaster area.

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Jody Teiche: And the thought that this is what our dogs do.

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Jody Teiche: Yes.

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Jody Teiche: They save our lives in so many profound ways from literally like what Boris did for you and your husband and your daughter to emotionally when it allows us to get through another day.

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Jody Teiche: That love.

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Jody Teiche: So it's I want people to understand the immensity in this book.

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Jody Teiche: And here you describe it is very, very helpful and you will see some pictures of it.

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Jody Teiche: But just to sort of give listeners an idea.

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Jody Teiche: So every page has a little poem that was inspired by, I guess, downloads from Boris, thoughts of Boris.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: Yes, I channeled him.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: I actually said, I love it.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: Every morning I wake up and say thank you.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: Just I'm here on this earth because of you.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: And the cover of the book, the Hubsburg to the ground.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: This photo, we found it in the woods behind the labs.

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Jody Teiche: Oh my God.

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Jody Teiche: Oh my God.

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Jody Teiche: I just got chills.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: There are so many stories.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: And then I have to share one other thing because I think-

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Jody Teiche: Please.

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Jody Teiche: I mean, this is incredible, incredible stuff.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: Our daughter was just married and we just went back to the wedding.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: Yes, congratulations.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: Thank you.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: And the reason why I'm saying that is because in the back of the book is one of the last photos, is a little bouquet of dog balls.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: Yes.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: After Boris passed, I planted a hill on the land where the house was, of dog violets to remember him.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: And this little girl that my husband had in his arms, and we ran out of the house, was just married last weekend.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: And I had gone to the house back in Massachusetts, and I had spoken to her about this, and I picked hundreds of those dog violets and pressed them, and they were in her wedding invitation.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: So when I say everything in this book has meaning, but I didn't want it to be about me.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: I wanted it to be about love, and that if everything is done from the heart, and the experience that you have with your animals is that experience of love.

00:17:49.490 --> 00:17:54.970
Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: I wanted this to be that reflection of it, that that was my design.

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Jody Teiche: Absolutely.

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Jody Teiche: And the fact that animals, especially dogs, because we're out and about with our dogs, more than people with cats, are such a door opener, bridge, to and between us and others.

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Jody Teiche: Everybody has a story of someone they've met because of their dogs, right?

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Jody Teiche: So these animals and that love is such an ice breaker and a beeline to authenticity.

00:18:31.150 --> 00:18:37.090
Jody Teiche: Because when you start talking about your dogs with each other, you know, it goes straight to the heart.

00:18:37.770 --> 00:18:56.290
Jody Teiche: And so it's that authenticity, too, that you have so beautifully tapped into with this book and with all of these life incidents that are just Boris coming in again and again and again.

00:18:56.290 --> 00:18:58.150
Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: And again and again.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: There are so many gifts that I've received from him.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: I've been going into schools and reading my book and showing the children how I honor our dog by making some photos with the children and then we write love notes to our pets.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: And the stories that the children have been sharing about someone who lived next door and they moved, and their dog moved as well, and how sad they were, not only for the loss of a friend who might have been an adult, but because they had said hello to that dog, every day, and how connected we are through animals, constantly.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: And men, that older men, how beautiful, wanting to share a story about a dog that they loved, who they said was everything to them.

00:19:53.690 --> 00:20:08.950
Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: And opening up that portal to sharing, to love, to honoring, and it's just this constant holding of each other through our animals, right, through our dogs.

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Jody Teiche: Absolutely.

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Jody Teiche: We're gonna take a short break for our sponsor, but before we do, I want people to picture this.

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Jody Teiche: Every page that you turn to in this book has a beautifully photographed, because you are a photographer, you're an artist, a beautifully photographed dog with some wonderful, natural, meaningful flower on the page, sort of juxtaposed with that dog in some really artistic, beautiful way, or, you know, alongside something pops out at you, and a poem, a short poem, that is tapping into our profound love for our dogs and the downloads from Boris.

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Jody Teiche: I recommend this book for everyone who has ever loved a dog and who may know someone who has lost a dog.

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Jody Teiche: And with that, we are gonna be right back.

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Jody Teiche: And we'll hear some stories about the dogs that are now immortalized in Remember Me As Sunshine.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: Let's Talk Pets.

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Jody Teiche: Welcome back, if you've just joined, we're here today with Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor, the very, very gifted artist and heart behind Remember Me As Sunshine, Love Notes, Love Notes From My Dog, an absolutely beautiful remembrance book that I received as a gift when my Sophie passed.

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Jody Teiche: Jacqueline, you have such beautiful photographs in this book of dogs that you said you met in the neighborhood that you moved to in California.

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Jody Teiche: And you told a beautiful story of a young girl who was feeling sad because one of the dogs that she met as her neighbor that she had said hi to every day had moved away with the family.

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Jody Teiche: Every doggy has a story.

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Jody Teiche: And I'm just wondering if there are a couple that stand out for you from the dogs that you photographed and if you'd share them.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: Yeah, I would be honored to.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: So I think I'll start with Pearl.

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Jody Teiche: Oh, she's beautiful.

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Jody Teiche: We'll have a picture of Pearl.

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Jody Teiche: Can we get a picture of Pearl to put up on the page?

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Jody Teiche: Great.

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Jody Teiche: So you'll be able to see Pearl when you listen to the show.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: I met Pearl in our local car repair place.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: The loveliest people, truly loveliest.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: And there was Pearl.

00:24:37.853 --> 00:24:41.993
Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: She has green legs and she has a scar around her body.

00:24:42.593 --> 00:24:48.693
Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: Where when they adopted her, they think she was possibly caught in a chain.

00:24:48.693 --> 00:24:57.033
Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: And she is the loveliest soul, the gentlest, most just beautiful spear.

00:24:57.033 --> 00:24:59.673
Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: And so I asked if I could photograph her.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: But it was important to me that I just photograph her essence and not her disabilities.

00:25:05.633 --> 00:25:10.393
Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: So they had named her Pearl for that string, that scar around her body.

00:25:10.393 --> 00:25:16.553
Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: And for me, I wanted to also honor her strength.

00:25:16.553 --> 00:25:23.233
Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: And so that's why she's on this page with these rocks that are from my collection that have a line around them.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: And I don't know if you know in, when you find one that has a line completely around, you make a wish and that sort of little tradition.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: So those are from my collection of rocks with a little line around them, because every time I found one rock with a line around it, my strength was restored and I made a wish.

00:25:49.753 --> 00:25:55.853
Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: And when I met Pearl, I felt this connection to her of her strength as well.

00:25:55.853 --> 00:25:58.073
Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: So what a gift.

00:25:58.073 --> 00:25:59.793
Jody Teiche: That is beautiful.

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Jody Teiche: Do you know where that comes from, making a wish when you find a rock with a line around it?

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Jody Teiche: I have to look that up because that is a really beautiful thing I'd never heard.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: Well, I should have heard that either.

00:26:11.873 --> 00:26:13.233
Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: And then someone shared it with me.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: I'm like, well, yeah, and I've always picked up a rock and then made a wish, just to put it in my pocket.

00:26:20.593 --> 00:26:24.093
Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: And then, oh, there's so many.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: Let me quickly.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: Well, it's impossible to go quickly, but here's this beautiful dog when this dog was adopted.

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Jody Teiche: That is Baby.

00:26:38.693 --> 00:26:39.513
Jody Teiche: You'll see Baby.

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Jody Teiche: We'll get a picture of Baby too, so you can see.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: Baby, when Baby was adopted, Baby had bleach stripes all over its body to make it look like a zebra.

00:26:53.133 --> 00:26:54.613
Jody Teiche: Oh my goodness.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: And the bleach marks had turned into burns on his body.

00:27:00.493 --> 00:27:03.173
Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: I mean, it was just heartbreak.

00:27:03.173 --> 00:27:04.613
Jody Teiche: Do something like that.

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Jody Teiche: Oh my God.

00:27:05.993 --> 00:27:17.213
Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: And the owner, the new woman who adopted him, just adored him and brought him back to his essence of cool.

00:27:17.213 --> 00:27:23.953
Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: So when I photographed him, I turned those lines into rays of sunflowers.

00:27:23.953 --> 00:27:33.013
Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: So that's what is in the sun, because those lines act to be the spirit of the sun and of the beauty of that wonderful.

00:27:33.013 --> 00:27:42.253
Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: Oh, and this big great dame puts his head on my shoulder and just leans into me and most soulful spirited.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: So and then this is Heather.

00:27:45.053 --> 00:27:52.013
Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: When I met Heather, she was walking with her owner, and she was behind her owner's leg.

00:27:52.013 --> 00:27:57.533
Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: And I was just down the street with a conversation, said, hello, how are you today?

00:27:57.533 --> 00:28:00.153
Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: And didn't even realize that Heather was there.

00:28:00.153 --> 00:28:04.673
Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: And we started talking and I said, Oh my goodness, I didn't even see your lovely dog.

00:28:04.673 --> 00:28:06.813
Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: She said, Oh, well, she's quite shy.

00:28:06.813 --> 00:28:12.673
Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: And she's feeling a little sad because my mother just passed away, who was 101.

00:28:12.673 --> 00:28:13.813
Jody Teiche: Wow.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: Ah, she just missed her little.

00:28:15.793 --> 00:28:17.113
Jody Teiche: Oh, wow.

00:28:17.113 --> 00:28:19.033
Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: Oh, may I photograph her?

00:28:19.033 --> 00:28:22.653
Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: And she said, well, I'm not sure, you know, she's very shy.

00:28:22.653 --> 00:28:25.293
Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: And I said, let me try if it's okay with you.

00:28:25.293 --> 00:28:27.073
Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: So she lives nearby.

00:28:27.073 --> 00:28:29.793
Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: I had never met this woman before.

00:28:29.793 --> 00:28:35.693
Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: And I went over and I just said the woman's name over and over again.

00:28:35.693 --> 00:28:41.613
Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: And Heather looked at me and it's one of my favorite photos with her little ear up.

00:28:41.613 --> 00:28:43.673
Jody Teiche: Oh my goodness.

00:28:43.733 --> 00:28:45.453
Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: And we could listen.

00:28:45.453 --> 00:28:48.633
Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: And so these are all Forget Me Knots on this page.

00:28:48.633 --> 00:29:09.693
Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: And what I did was I made these tiny little mounts just around a toothpick and cut them and place them all over the paper and then quickly had to cut all these Forget Me Knots and put them down because that's the only way it would look natural on these pages.

00:29:09.693 --> 00:29:15.513
Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: It couldn't be all photoshopped and you know, it needed to be real.

00:29:15.513 --> 00:29:18.013
Jody Teiche: Authentic.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: And so when I look at her and how lovely she is, I just remember her, that moment of her looking at me and just feeling this connection.

00:29:28.793 --> 00:29:30.073
Jody Teiche: Oh my goodness.

00:29:30.113 --> 00:29:33.273
Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: I mean, every dog is special here.

00:29:34.433 --> 00:29:35.693
Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: Every single dog.

00:29:35.693 --> 00:29:38.553
Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: And I could go on and on and on.

00:29:38.553 --> 00:29:39.313
Jody Teiche: Yeah.

00:29:39.313 --> 00:29:47.173
Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: And then the other thing that happens with this book is when you turn the pages, I wanted to have a modern take on the Rainbow Bridge.

00:29:47.173 --> 00:29:52.813
Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: So it also has, so the whole idea is that it feels like a rainbow.

00:29:52.813 --> 00:29:53.313
Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: Oh wow.

00:29:53.313 --> 00:29:54.833
Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: So you're feeling things.

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Jody Teiche: That is fabulous.

00:29:56.353 --> 00:30:06.993
Jody Teiche: Meaning we gotta tell people because they're not seeing this that the colors of the pages were also very carefully.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: Very carefully, but it's a modern thing.

00:30:09.153 --> 00:30:12.813
Jody Teiche: So it's like, and the colors are so beautiful.

00:30:12.813 --> 00:30:14.773
Jody Teiche: So it's like a modern rainbow when you flip through.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: Modern rainbow, yes.

00:30:16.193 --> 00:30:22.053
Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: And then at the beginning of the book are the love notes that are tied together with the little blue ribbon.

00:30:22.433 --> 00:30:29.653
Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: And then the end of the book, the very last page, is the ribbon that symbolically you've read.

00:30:29.653 --> 00:30:31.013
Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: You've read the love notes.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: Yeah.

00:30:31.433 --> 00:30:32.573
Jody Teiche: Oh, I love that.

00:30:32.573 --> 00:30:34.353
Jody Teiche: I didn't know that piece.

00:30:34.353 --> 00:30:35.913
Jody Teiche: I didn't think of that.

00:30:35.913 --> 00:30:38.233
Jody Teiche: So what's left is the ribbon.

00:30:38.233 --> 00:30:40.213
Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: The ribbon, right.

00:30:40.213 --> 00:30:45.953
Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: And you add your memories, because there's pages that just had your reflections.

00:30:45.953 --> 00:30:52.913
Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: Symbolically take that ribbon and tie it around and place in here, your love.

00:30:52.913 --> 00:30:56.533
Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: And then you can write your dog's name on the front page.

00:30:56.533 --> 00:30:59.413
Jody Teiche: Yes, which I did.

00:30:59.413 --> 00:31:02.593
Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: And there's a place to put their photo if you'd like.

00:31:02.593 --> 00:31:04.853
Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: That's why this is blank too.

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Jody Teiche: Yeah.

00:31:05.633 --> 00:31:06.573
Jody Teiche: Yeah.

00:31:06.573 --> 00:31:08.213
Jody Teiche: You've thought of everything.

00:31:08.213 --> 00:31:19.813
Jody Teiche: And you also included something I remember when I got this as a gift that I thought was really beautiful and different, which was this little square that you're able to plant.

00:31:19.813 --> 00:31:22.193
Jody Teiche: Can you tell my audience about that?

00:31:22.193 --> 00:31:25.853
Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: I include a little paper seeded heart.

00:31:25.853 --> 00:31:37.013
Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: They're made in North America, and they're natural, all handmade, and they're North American wildflower seeds that attract butterflies.

00:31:37.013 --> 00:31:41.773
Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: The whole idea is that you write your dog's name or not.

00:31:41.893 --> 00:31:46.113
Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: It doesn't matter, but it is nice to just say thank you.

00:31:46.113 --> 00:32:02.493
Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: Even to your pet who's in your life right now, if you don't thank you for being in my life, and putting it in the ground, and watch it come to life, and see this beautiful little flower appear, and then a butterfly connected to it, and spirit.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: So everything is just a cycle going back again and again to give back, to have an awareness, an appreciation, and a moment of celebrating and honoring in every day, right?

00:32:16.113 --> 00:32:28.273
Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: Because when you're present in your day, and you have your dog with you, or you see something differently because of that walk that you've had with your dog, what a gift that is, right?

00:32:28.273 --> 00:32:32.333
Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: And so to really take time and hold that.

00:32:32.333 --> 00:32:34.853
Jody Teiche: Be present, be present.

00:32:34.853 --> 00:32:54.033
Jody Teiche: What is so striking to me is that in the tragedy and sadness of the fire and losing Boris, how many beautiful, beautiful things, gifts you call them, and they are, have come out of this, and how many lives you are touching.

00:32:55.293 --> 00:32:59.153
Jody Teiche: Instagram, Dogs of Instagram just featured your book.

00:32:59.153 --> 00:33:02.413
Jody Teiche: I mean, that's a lot of followers.

00:33:02.413 --> 00:33:05.193
Jody Teiche: How many lives you are touching.

00:33:05.193 --> 00:33:05.573
Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: Thank you.

00:33:05.913 --> 00:33:09.653
Jody Teiche: I feel like a profound difference in that life.

00:33:09.653 --> 00:33:16.793
Jody Teiche: And it's just such a beautiful ripples in a pond that go on and on kind of thing.

00:33:16.793 --> 00:33:19.513
Jody Teiche: Where can people find you, Jacqueline?

00:33:19.513 --> 00:33:30.253
Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: So the best place is through my website, because then I hand wrap everything for you, and I include it as a good part, and I box it beautifully.

00:33:30.253 --> 00:33:32.273
Jody Teiche: I can attest to all of this, everyone.

00:33:32.693 --> 00:33:36.113
Jody Teiche: It comes as a really beautiful, beautiful gift.

00:33:36.113 --> 00:33:41.693
Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: I wanted the experience to be worthy of that love of a dog.

00:33:41.693 --> 00:33:45.493
Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: You can buy it on Amazon, which I don't know what is there.

00:33:45.493 --> 00:33:50.193
Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: But when you buy it from me, I'm able to do more for the experience.

00:33:50.193 --> 00:33:51.553
Jody Teiche: So absolutely.

00:33:51.553 --> 00:33:54.413
Jody Teiche: And tell everyone your website, remembermeassunshine.com.

00:33:55.933 --> 00:33:56.973
Jody Teiche: There you have it.

00:33:56.973 --> 00:33:58.413
Jody Teiche: What about on social?

00:33:58.413 --> 00:34:00.973
Jody Teiche: Are there any social channels you'd like people to know about?

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: On Instagram, RememberMeAsSunshine and on Facebook.

00:34:07.393 --> 00:34:09.713
Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: You know, I'm so busy.

00:34:09.713 --> 00:34:12.193
Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: It's just me here doing this.

00:34:12.193 --> 00:34:29.493
Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: And I'm so busy in my community doing things, working for the San Diego Humane Society, volunteering, volunteering in schools, you know, going into school, speaking, being part of community, that I'm not as much on social media as I probably should be.

00:34:29.493 --> 00:34:30.973
Jody Teiche: You're living life.

00:34:30.973 --> 00:34:41.033
Jody Teiche: You're out in the world, which is something that ties beautifully and makes so much sense in with all the authenticity and realness of what you've done.

00:34:41.033 --> 00:34:44.753
Jody Teiche: So I think that we need more of that today.

00:34:44.753 --> 00:34:45.333
Jody Teiche: Yeah?

00:34:45.333 --> 00:34:45.793
Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: I do.

00:34:45.793 --> 00:34:49.473
Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: When you're present, everything changes.

00:34:49.473 --> 00:34:54.453
Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: After the fire, my yoga teacher used to say to me, the earth will hold you.

00:34:54.453 --> 00:34:57.433
Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: And I would go to the land.

00:34:57.433 --> 00:34:58.993
Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: The house was burnt down.

00:34:58.993 --> 00:35:00.473
Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: It was winter.

00:35:00.473 --> 00:35:06.733
Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: And I would take off my shoes and stand in the snow and just say, hold me, hold me.

00:35:06.733 --> 00:35:08.013
Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: I felt untethered.

00:35:08.013 --> 00:35:12.993
Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: You know, everything was just so big and so uncertain.

00:35:12.993 --> 00:35:21.293
Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: But I am so grateful to be on this earth, to be present with you, to have this connection with other people because of Boris.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: My heart is full and if this is my opportunity to use my talents to give back, then that's what I'm here for.

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Jody Teiche: It's beautiful.

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Jody Teiche: Thank you so much for spending this time with us today, Jacqueline.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: Thank you.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: I'm honoured, truly.

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Jacqueline Lemieux-Bokor: Thank you.

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Jody Teiche: Oh, please.

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Jody Teiche: I'm honoured to have you here.

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Jody Teiche: And Gina, thank you for introducing me to Jacqueline.

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Jody Teiche: Thank you, Gina.

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Jody Teiche: And thank all of you for listening.

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Jody Teiche: Thanks to our producer, Mark Winter.

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Jody Teiche: Mark, you make us sound so good.

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Jody Teiche: We love you for it.

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Jody Teiche: My passion is health, definitely natural healing, and living stylishly, which is why we're here, because this is a very stylish book.

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Jody Teiche: Also, animal rescue.

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Jody Teiche: So tune in next time to discover the designers, home decor, artists, rescue stories I love.

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Jody Teiche: So until next time, when fierce fashion calls, Bark And Swagger.

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