What’s in Store for Summer? Hot Tips to Keep Your Pets Cool!

Michelle Fern chats with Cheryl Kaye, host of Unleashed on Pet Life Radio about keeping your pets safe and cool for the summer!  From traveling with your pets to just going outside during the hottest months of the year, you won’t want to miss helpful hints for your pets.

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BIO:


I am a displaced NEW YORKER who is now doing the FLORIDIAN Lifestyle.  After 12 years I still miss SNOW, AUTUMN & LONG ISLAND SUMMERS.  I arrived here with my 2 cats. .RICKY  & SHY_ANNE.  Traveling with 2 cats was jarring. They hated my music or my driving.  They never used their litter except for overnight stops.  How's  that for Patience & Control?

I had traveled during Katrina so I took it slow & steady and stayed with friends along the way.  I came to Florida with Shy-Anne who I got as a kitten she passed at 19 and Ricky.  I then got lucky and got Daniel Boone my Maine coon. After they passed I decided I wanted to have a dog again. I wanted that devoted constant companionship. A second fiddle to my Cello.

So I went to a shelter which I had never been before and fell in love and rescued Tilly McGee aka Phoebe.  My new best friend with a middle name.  I have not been disappointed. Younger and bigger than I imagined .... but on my toes I am.  Who knows how we fall in love.. With our pets it's instant.

There's that saying that a dog will come into your life... and everything will change!!  Boy did  it.. in wonderful  ways.  Tilly is very social    she came that way. She was found  in a cage at 10 months. Still a puppy except in size.  Now she is my spoiled buddy who only wants love, treats, walks and her daily dose of our neighborhood dog park where I pitch her ball.

It's been a wonderful time.   My life is in between her needs and wants and it’s been great.  The exercise the new friendships Happiness knocks at the right door. I'm now embarking on writing a children's book about  our pets, our new  pet friends and all the new antics  and adventures.


Transcript:


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Michelle Fern: Hello, pet lovers, welcome to Best Bets for Pets.

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Michelle Fern: I'm your show host, Michelle Fern, and I have a special guest today with me, another show host, she hosts Unleashed, and it is Cheryl Kaye.

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Michelle Fern: We're gonna talk about something that I am so passionate about, the summer and heat and what you should be aware of.

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Michelle Fern: Welcome back, we have a great show.

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Michelle Fern: I'd like to welcome Cheryl Kaye, welcome.

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Cheryl Kaye: Thank you for having me.

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Michelle Fern: So, Cheryl, I've done a lot of shows when we talk about summer because it's something that I'm so passionate about.

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Michelle Fern: I mean, I'm in a very hot place, but you know, there's heat conditions all over.

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Michelle Fern: And every year you hear some horrible story about people forgetting their pet, they left their pet in the car or something.

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Cheryl Kaye: They just did it today.

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Michelle Fern: And it's just, yeah, it's just crazy.

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Cheryl Kaye: They went to the beach.

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Michelle Fern: There's certain things you really need to be aware of for dogs and for cats, especially for cats, because cats don't pant like dogs do.

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Michelle Fern: But tell me about what happened to your friend.

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Cheryl Kaye: No, I read today, my friend, we walk our dogs early.

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Cheryl Kaye: We don't do, of course, with Tilly, I do have to sometimes go out in the height.

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Cheryl Kaye: I teach her about, you know, shade, in and out.

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Cheryl Kaye: But I'm out of the house by seven to walk her.

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Cheryl Kaye: And after seven, it's much cooler.

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Michelle Fern: But after seven at night.

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Cheryl Kaye: Yeah, definitely.

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Cheryl Kaye: And I do late also.

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Cheryl Kaye: And it's been hot.

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Cheryl Kaye: We're not going to the park.

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Cheryl Kaye: But you have to really be careful because the road puts out heat.

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Cheryl Kaye: And depending on what kind of dog you have, the weight, the coloring, you really have to be careful.

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Cheryl Kaye: And a dog could get heat stroke, and it comes on them very quick, even after the fact.

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Cheryl Kaye: So you have to be very careful.

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Cheryl Kaye: And we'll get into that, and I have some very good information about that.

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Cheryl Kaye: And I'm interested, you know, I no longer have cats, but you're right, they don't feel it the same way.

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Michelle Fern: You mentioned a couple of good points as far as the road putting out heat.

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Michelle Fern: And most people know this, if not, they should know this.

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Michelle Fern: But if the asphalt or the ground is too hot for your feet, it's too hot for your dogs.

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Cheryl Kaye: For your hand, you know, you're gonna put your hand on it.

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Cheryl Kaye: Tilly doesn't have a problem.

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Cheryl Kaye: We basically walk on the grass, but we have to get to the grass.

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Michelle Fern: I read a stat that if it's 86 degrees, then asphalt is likely to be 135 degrees, and that is hot enough to cook an egg.

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Cheryl Kaye: Now, 86 degrees, you do not walk your dog.

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Michelle Fern: No.

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Cheryl Kaye: 84, 80, you don't walk your dog.

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Cheryl Kaye: And in some areas, 77 could be too much.

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Cheryl Kaye: But we'll get into that because you have to be very careful.

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Cheryl Kaye: Like when I used to take Tilly to the park, we're not now because it's so drastically brutally hot out.

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Cheryl Kaye: You know, she comes in, lays down on the porcelain, I take a cool cloth and I dab her head and her extremities to cool her off.

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Cheryl Kaye: But with this kind of weather, they can't exert themselves.

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Cheryl Kaye: No way.

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Michelle Fern: No, they can't, and you mentioned a couple of good points, but flat nose or hugs that are pushed in or cats that have like more of a smooshed in face.

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Michelle Fern: I think Scottish folds have faces like that.

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Michelle Fern: But cats and dogs that have a flatter face have a shorter respiratory, you know, as far as-

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Cheryl Kaye: And darker in color.

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Michelle Fern: Right, but they have a short snout or a flatter face.

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Michelle Fern: There's issues with respiratory.

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Michelle Fern: So that's something that can affect them faster than a dog with a longer or a cat with a longer snout.

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Michelle Fern: Color, cause dogs and cats can get sunburn.

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Cheryl Kaye: I have lotion for Tilly.

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Cheryl Kaye: She has a pink nose, part of her nose is pink.

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Cheryl Kaye: They sell that to dogs.

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Michelle Fern: And they do have doggy sunscreen.

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Cheryl Kaye: That's what I have.

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Michelle Fern: And cats, I mean, cats have litter boxes.

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Michelle Fern: So you're not really walking.

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Michelle Fern: Some people walk their cats.

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Michelle Fern: You're not really walking cats as much.

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Michelle Fern: But one of the good things with cats is that they're inside.

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Michelle Fern: Generally, if you have a catio, hopefully it's in the shade and it's screened.

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Michelle Fern: Well, it must be screened in if it's a catio and you have a fan there.

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Michelle Fern: But there are certain times of days when my cats and it's screened in, there's a big fan above, but they don't want to be out.

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Michelle Fern: And I'm fine with that because days that are very humid, if it's hot for you, it's hot for your pets.

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Cheryl Kaye: Well, humidity is really the killer.

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Michelle Fern: But also in very dry places, like in the deserts, Arizona, more desert part of LA, like Palm Springs, you can get heatstroke fast.

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Michelle Fern: It happens to us two-legged people.

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Michelle Fern: It could happen within maybe 20 minutes or so.

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Michelle Fern: But we know the symptoms and we could say, oh, I feel queasy, I feel this, it's time to go in.

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Michelle Fern: Your dog or cat is not going to know that.

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Cheryl Kaye: No, and it could happen afterwards.

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Cheryl Kaye: I mean, they could start throwing up, they get dizzy, lethargic, and their temperature goes up.

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Cheryl Kaye: I'm really thinking of getting Tilly like baby booties for her feet.

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Michelle Fern: That might be a good idea.

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Michelle Fern: I used to always walk Mr.

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Michelle Fern: Zeus on the grass very quickly, and I avoided the times of days when it was really hot.

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Michelle Fern: We'll get into other stuff.

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Michelle Fern: But another thing you should always do if you're traveling with your dog and sometimes you have to travel during the summer months or you're going on a trip, you're taking your fur, babe, always make sure you have water.

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Michelle Fern: It's a good idea to have treats also because if your dog or cat gets loose, you can lure them with the treats.

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Michelle Fern: Before we get into talking more about the heat, there's a great product from Maisie Days.

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Michelle Fern: It's a pup treat pouch.

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Michelle Fern: I showed it to you, Cheryl.

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Michelle Fern: It's very elegant.

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Michelle Fern: It's fun.

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Michelle Fern: There's storage for poop bags, for a bottle of water, not giant size, maybe eight ounce.

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Michelle Fern: And it's another benefit.

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Michelle Fern: You can wear it cross body or like a fanny pack, and then your hands are free.

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Michelle Fern: So you could hold leashes and hold the poops.

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Michelle Fern: You don't have to worry about that.

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Cheryl Kaye: You know, I just want to say, whenever you take your pet out or away on a trip, whether it's in a car or anywhere, you should be prepared not only with some treats and definitely water, but really you should take their food with you.

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Cheryl Kaye: Only because it happened to a friend of mine, they went to go visit somebody that was a couple of hours away, and they ended up getting back late.

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Cheryl Kaye: And our pets, especially dogs, they like a routine.

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Cheryl Kaye: They don't really care if you're in traffic.

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Cheryl Kaye: They want to eat when they want to eat.

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Michelle Fern: Exactly.

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Cheryl Kaye: So you, if you have a little doggy bag, which who knew that when they came up with that expression that we really need these things, you really need to have everything your dog needs.

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Cheryl Kaye: And if you're going for a long distance, anytime you're here, you should also keep in mind any first aid that you think your pet might need.

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Michelle Fern: That is touching on another subject that I wanted to talk to you about.

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Michelle Fern: You talked about temperatures for asphalt, a dog in a car, and we don't take cats on as many car rides because they are, you know, mostly, most of our cats, especially in the US., are indoors.

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Michelle Fern: So you're not going to take your cat to the cat park, maybe if you have a cat cafe, but usually they have their own cats.

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Michelle Fern: But anyhow, keep in mind that a dog can get heat stroke in a car in five minutes.

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Michelle Fern: Don't leave your dog in a parked car.

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Michelle Fern: Don't leave your dog in a parked car with shade under the shade.

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Michelle Fern: It doesn't do much good.

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Michelle Fern: It's also illegal in a lot of states.

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Cheryl Kaye: Yes, and not only dogs, but we're gonna and also children and children, because let's face it, there are idiots out there that think nothing of no truth.

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Cheryl Kaye: I mean, I know every day you could read the story.

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Cheryl Kaye: Today, somebody left their dog in the car 100 degrees while they were at the beach.

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Michelle Fern: That is insane.

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Cheryl Kaye: I think they should go to jail.

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Michelle Fern: You know, it's actually illegal.

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Michelle Fern: And I looked up the stats and my stats are from, we're recording this in June 2024.

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Michelle Fern: So my stats were from 2023.

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Michelle Fern: So listeners, keep that in mind.

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Michelle Fern: But it's actually illegal to leave a domestic pet, a dog or a cat in your car in 31 states.

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Michelle Fern: And 14 states, including Florida, have certain laws that will allow someone to rescue the pet.

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Michelle Fern: There's rules, you know, you have to call some states, you have to call 911 first and this and that.

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Michelle Fern: And then I'm going to tell you a true story.

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Michelle Fern: I was returning, this is several years ago, I was returning something to a mall and I noticed there was a car next to me where I parked and the windows were open a little teeny bit and there was a little dog there, like a mini pincher or something, like a little small dog.

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Michelle Fern: And it was hot out, you know, it's South Florida, it's generally hot all the time.

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Michelle Fern: We have cold fronts, we don't have winter.

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Michelle Fern: And this was a warm day, like always.

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Michelle Fern: And there was two other people came around and I said, you know, I plan to just run an errand quick in the store.

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Michelle Fern: I said, let me go in, I'm going to go in the mall, see if I see a security person.

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Michelle Fern: Because, you know, there's a lot of crazy people out there in the world and if you go to break into someone's car.

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Cheryl Kaye: Oh, I would have called the police.

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Michelle Fern: Right, call the police, I don't want anybody shoving in.

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Michelle Fern: Who knows what in your face, you know?

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Michelle Fern: So I went in, I didn't see a security guard.

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Michelle Fern: Time I got back, there was like five other people.

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Michelle Fern: There was a cop car around the mall.

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Michelle Fern: He came and he said, what's going on?

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Michelle Fern: And we said, there's a dog inside there.

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Michelle Fern: He was looking for how to break into the car, the cop was.

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Michelle Fern: And at that time, a young person, nothing against young people, because older people can be idiots too, but this young person, the young male person came running in.

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Michelle Fern: And he said, oh, oh, I was just, what's going on?

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Michelle Fern: I was just there inside for five minutes.

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Michelle Fern: And I looked at him.

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Michelle Fern: I said, no, you weren't.

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Michelle Fern: I said, I've been here for 25 minutes and these other people have been around.

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Michelle Fern: And the cop says, you want to tell me that again?

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Michelle Fern: And I don't know if they find him.

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Michelle Fern: I don't know if they arrested him.

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Cheryl Kaye: They should take the pet.

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Cheryl Kaye: Refining somebody like that.

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Michelle Fern: There's no five minutes.

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Michelle Fern: It doesn't go five minutes.

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Michelle Fern: And there's no reason to take your dog on car rides, unless you are going to the vet or you're traveling with your dog.

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Michelle Fern: There's no reason to go run an errand or do anything with your dog.

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Michelle Fern: So if there's emergency situations, have a friend watch your pet for a little while.

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Michelle Fern: If you have something that's of urgency or leave your pet at home, there's a lot of options out there.

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Michelle Fern: But it's crazy.

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Michelle Fern: It's just crazy.

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Michelle Fern: So just for everyone listening, just be aware because you can break into a car in some states, but you have to, there are certain laws ahead.

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Michelle Fern: You have to call 911 first.

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Michelle Fern: You might have certain ramifications.

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Cheryl Kaye: But if that's the criteria, certain criteria, thanks.

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Cheryl Kaye: If calling the police and breaking the window, as opposed to your dog or your cat could be dead or your kid, then don't get a dog, don't have kids, because that's not the criteria.

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Cheryl Kaye: Criteria is your pet could die.

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Michelle Fern: Well, I'm talking about people that see a pet in a car.

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Cheryl Kaye: Oh, I would call the police immediately.

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Michelle Fern: Definitely the first thing call 911, or well, that's probably if to call 911.

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Cheryl Kaye: 911, I think they break either one of the side windows or they go for the back window.

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Cheryl Kaye: I've seen them do it.

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Michelle Fern: Cops have those little sticks that you could put inside for when you get locked out of your car.

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Michelle Fern: Well, car thieves have them too, so.

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Cheryl Kaye: Right.

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Cheryl Kaye: Oh, maybe there's a phone number for a car thief.

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Cheryl Kaye: For a car thief?

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Cheryl Kaye: Yeah, car thief.

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Cheryl Kaye: We need you to open up this car, get this poor little dog out.

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Michelle Fern: I don't know if there's a-

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Cheryl Kaye: Yeah, but the dog, you could have the car.

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Cheryl Kaye: How about that?

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Cheryl Kaye: Well, I'm only kidding.

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Michelle Fern: Well, of course.

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Michelle Fern: Hey everyone, we'll be right back after this break.

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Michelle Fern: Molly, here's your dinner. Zeus, that's not your food!

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Michelle Fern: Welcome back, everyone.

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Michelle Fern: We're talking about how to take care of your pets in the summer when it's hot, what to do, what not to do, mostly what not to do.

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Michelle Fern: So let's talk a little more about cats.

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Michelle Fern: People don't always, they think because, you know, an image of cats and it's warm and sunny and cats like heat, yeah, they do.

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Michelle Fern: They like it a little warm, but cats get overheated just like dogs.

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Michelle Fern: Most of us, especially in the US, have indoor cats.

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Michelle Fern: So you should make sure the temps are not, you know, if you're watching your AC, don't go higher than 80 degrees.

00:15:37.471 --> 00:15:43.191
Michelle Fern: So 78 to 80 is the warmest it should be if you have cats in your home.

00:15:43.531 --> 00:15:50.311
Michelle Fern: Also keep in mind for cats, they don't pant like dogs where you know that, oh, they're hot.

00:15:50.451 --> 00:15:53.651
Michelle Fern: So if your cat's panting, that's not a good sign.

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Michelle Fern: Also, if their tongue is dark red or if their gums are dark red or dark red or pale.

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Cheryl Kaye: Yeah, dogs, their gums could be blue and red.

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Michelle Fern: Oh, my goodness.

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Michelle Fern: But panting cat is a sign of a cat being overheated.

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Cheryl Kaye: Right, distress.

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Cheryl Kaye: And you know, cats do love the sunshine.

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Cheryl Kaye: I mean, if it was a sunny day, they always find the sunny spot, but the heat is no good for anybody.

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Michelle Fern: Oh, one more thing before we go into this.

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Michelle Fern: Another thing to be aware of is during the summer, a lot of community cats like to hide out underneath cars.

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Cheryl Kaye: And in the winter.

00:16:33.191 --> 00:16:38.231
Michelle Fern: And in the winter, but in the winter, they can hide up inside of cars to stay warm.

00:16:38.251 --> 00:16:41.511
Michelle Fern: But in the summer, a lot of times they're under the cars.

00:16:42.271 --> 00:16:44.551
Michelle Fern: So, because that's where there's shade, right?

00:16:44.611 --> 00:16:45.371
Michelle Fern: Under the car.

00:16:45.651 --> 00:16:47.591
Michelle Fern: And it gives them some protection.

00:16:47.911 --> 00:16:57.131
Michelle Fern: So make sure, and this is kitten season, you know, April through October, in most places, in South Florida, pretty much all year long.

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Michelle Fern: But make sure there is not a cat under your car.

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Michelle Fern: Most of the time, the cat will be gone by the time you shut your door.

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Michelle Fern: But not always.

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Michelle Fern: So take a look.

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Cheryl Kaye: It's hot.

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Cheryl Kaye: And our summers are only gonna get hotter.

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Cheryl Kaye: And I think this summer is gonna be brutal, because it's hot.

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Michelle Fern: I've already seen, it started early, because it was already hot in May.

00:17:20.331 --> 00:17:22.571
Michelle Fern: I could gauge by my AC bill.

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Michelle Fern: It was like 50 bucks higher than last year.

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Michelle Fern: And it was about 12 or 14 degrees.

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Cheryl Kaye: We didn't even have the raining season.

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Michelle Fern: We didn't have my grass, where the sprinklers don't hit, looks like hay.

00:17:34.071 --> 00:17:35.351
Michelle Fern: We had a little bit of rain.

00:17:35.731 --> 00:17:41.671
Michelle Fern: And then in May, the temperature, the average temperature was like 12 degrees warmer than last year.

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Michelle Fern: So it's crazy.

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Michelle Fern: And there's all kinds of, in the western part of the US this week, it's in the hundreds.

00:17:48.971 --> 00:17:49.991
Michelle Fern: And it's crazy.

00:17:50.011 --> 00:17:51.231
Michelle Fern: It's so hot, so fast.

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Michelle Fern: There's another thing I want to talk about that people think that this is okay.

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Michelle Fern: Don't leave your dog or cat in the car with the AC running.

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Michelle Fern: And don't leave kids in the car with the AC running unless they're older kids, like maybe 14 or 15 or older, because especially some people will say, oh, I left the car running, but my pet's in there.

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Michelle Fern: A lot of cars, I mean, some are a little bit, you know, you could put the parking brake on, they're not just going to start rolling.

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Michelle Fern: But I've seen more than once and heard about this more than once, a cat or dog jumping around and something gets jostled and the car just starts moving.

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Cheryl Kaye: I mean, I could tell you honestly, one time coming back from the dog park with Tilly, I ran to get gas, which is two seconds in to give them the money and then I start to pump.

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Cheryl Kaye: We're talking two seconds because I park right in the front.

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Cheryl Kaye: And when I opened up the door to put my bag back in, she jumped out, you know, I grabbed her, but no, no, no.

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Cheryl Kaye: You have to be responsible.

00:18:50.751 --> 00:18:52.851
Cheryl Kaye: You can't put it on anybody else.

00:18:53.151 --> 00:18:56.971
Cheryl Kaye: Like you're going to entrust a 12 year old not to play around.

00:18:57.191 --> 00:18:59.951
Cheryl Kaye: That's like somebody entrusting a 12 year old.

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Cheryl Kaye: I locked the gun up, but they can find it.

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Michelle Fern: It's also illegal to leave your dog in a running car with AC on.

00:19:09.791 --> 00:19:13.531
Michelle Fern: I mean, I know that in Florida, it's a $500 fine.

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Michelle Fern: So definitely something to keep in mind.

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Michelle Fern: And if you are doing something to where you have to run in, run out, like you had to do with gas.

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Michelle Fern: I once had to travel during the summer months, and I was traveling with my dog across the country.

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Michelle Fern: When I ate, I did drive throughs.

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Michelle Fern: I shared with her.

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Cheryl Kaye: I did that when I came down to Florida with my cats.

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Cheryl Kaye: I had to eat at places where I could pull in and get it right out of the car.

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Cheryl Kaye: I could not go into a place.

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Michelle Fern: No, you have to do drive throughs.

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Michelle Fern: Or else forget it.

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Cheryl Kaye: And side of the roads.

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Cheryl Kaye: But I want to just say, before I forget, seniors, senior dogs and puppies are much more susceptible to heat than, say, a younger dog.

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Michelle Fern: And kittens and older cats.

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Cheryl Kaye: Right, right.

00:19:59.831 --> 00:20:01.091
Michelle Fern: And that's a great point.

00:20:01.231 --> 00:20:02.951
Michelle Fern: It's just like people, you know?

00:20:03.231 --> 00:20:08.071
Michelle Fern: Infants and super seniors, they're more susceptible to heat as well.

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Cheryl Kaye: We have to be aware.

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Cheryl Kaye: I mean, I wear hats, I wear sunglasses.

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Cheryl Kaye: You have to be aware now, because the climate...

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Cheryl Kaye: I'm not looking to spout about climate change, but I see a change, and I've been living down here now 18 years.

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Cheryl Kaye: It's different.

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Cheryl Kaye: We didn't have our rainy season.

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Cheryl Kaye: It's hot out.

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Michelle Fern: It's really hot.

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Cheryl Kaye: Humid, too.

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Michelle Fern: It's hot, it's humid, and you need to be responsible pet parents.

00:20:36.891 --> 00:20:40.391
Michelle Fern: And hopefully, if you guys are parents, you're responsible parents as well.

00:20:40.871 --> 00:20:44.151
Michelle Fern: So I want to finish off with talking about some tips.

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Michelle Fern: Make sure you have water with you on walks.

00:20:47.911 --> 00:20:54.631
Michelle Fern: Don't rely that there might be water, you know, public water available in a dog park or something that's not likely to happen.

00:20:54.951 --> 00:20:56.191
Michelle Fern: Make sure you have water.

00:20:56.431 --> 00:20:59.811
Michelle Fern: Avoid walking your dog during the hottest part of the day.

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Michelle Fern: Also, if you have to go to the vet, try to get an early appointment or a later appointment because usually we know midday, I think it's between like, what, two and four?

00:21:11.891 --> 00:21:14.971
Cheryl Kaye: Well, two and six really, or really even earlier.

00:21:15.011 --> 00:21:17.771
Michelle Fern: Well, the hottest is usually between two and four.

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Michelle Fern: So avoid those times.

00:21:20.551 --> 00:21:24.751
Michelle Fern: Also, this is tick season, so check your dog for ticks.

00:21:25.151 --> 00:21:31.331
Michelle Fern: Even if it's just a walk around the block, because it happens, they jump all over, so it definitely happens.

00:21:31.351 --> 00:21:34.631
Cheryl Kaye: And they bring a lot of disease, not just to the dogs and cats.

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Michelle Fern: For people, too, it's horrible.

00:21:36.671 --> 00:21:46.631
Michelle Fern: And I would say limit your car rides for your fur babes to vet-only visits if you have to go to the groomer, but there's a lot of mobile groomers these days.

00:21:47.191 --> 00:21:55.311
Michelle Fern: And just a side note, when I lived in Los Angeles, there was 10 times of the year, I would take my dog just for car rides because she loved it.

00:21:55.471 --> 00:22:00.691
Michelle Fern: But when it was cooler, of course, in Florida, never did that with Mr.

00:22:00.711 --> 00:22:01.291
Michelle Fern: Zeus, never.

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Cheryl Kaye: My ride to the dog park is one and a half miles.

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Cheryl Kaye: And then the air conditioner is on, and I go early.

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Michelle Fern: But you go early or late, if you go during the summer, or do you just cut out the summer?

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Cheryl Kaye: She needs her exercise.

00:22:17.311 --> 00:22:18.151
Cheryl Kaye: She's a young dog.

00:22:18.591 --> 00:22:25.611
Cheryl Kaye: Now, every day, twice a day, she meets her best friend, Molly, and they rough house.

00:22:25.951 --> 00:22:28.511
Cheryl Kaye: And that gives her a little exercise.

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Cheryl Kaye: And then she's good.

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Cheryl Kaye: I walk late at night and early in the morning.

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Cheryl Kaye: And if I can, in the shade, midday, in and out, just, you know, that's it.

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Cheryl Kaye: I'm very aware of it.

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Cheryl Kaye: If I could put a hat on, or I would.

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Michelle Fern: Some people do that.

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Michelle Fern: I just want people to be aware, be aware that the heat is no joke.

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Cheryl Kaye: No, the heat is a killer.

00:22:52.931 --> 00:22:53.651
Michelle Fern: It's a killer.

00:22:53.811 --> 00:22:54.991
Michelle Fern: Just be aware.

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Cheryl Kaye: People in the desert die because they don't bring enough water, and they thought that their little hike is going to be X amount of time, and it took longer.

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Cheryl Kaye: Heat is a killer.

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Cheryl Kaye: Yes.

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Cheryl Kaye: And it's not a pleasant way to go.

00:23:10.331 --> 00:23:12.091
Michelle Fern: No, I wouldn't want to go that way.

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Michelle Fern: That's for sure.

00:23:12.951 --> 00:23:22.671
Michelle Fern: The whole point of this show, so for everyone listening, is that between Cheryl and I is to just bring awareness that fact that it's summer, it's hot.

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Michelle Fern: And even if you're in one of the cooler states, Maine or Vermont or Washington state.

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Cheryl Kaye: What about people who have a house and they just let their dog out?

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Cheryl Kaye: That too.

00:23:35.291 --> 00:23:36.711
Michelle Fern: Well, that's not good.

00:23:36.791 --> 00:23:37.831
Michelle Fern: I'm not a fan of that.

00:23:37.851 --> 00:23:46.231
Michelle Fern: But as far as the weather goes, even if you live in a place that's not as hot, just be aware of the temps because you can have a day.

00:23:46.471 --> 00:23:51.051
Michelle Fern: Some places I've seen temps go from 90 to 50, and then back to 90 again.

00:23:51.431 --> 00:23:56.351
Michelle Fern: Just be aware when it's too hot for you, it's too hot for your fur, babe.

00:23:56.751 --> 00:24:03.651
Michelle Fern: Because I don't think anybody wants to do something like kill their fur, babe, by leaving them in the car or her in the car.

00:24:03.951 --> 00:24:06.111
Michelle Fern: So just be aware of it.

00:24:06.471 --> 00:24:12.711
Michelle Fern: I think the biggest thing that people make a mistake of is walking their dog on asphalt or on concrete.

00:24:12.871 --> 00:24:13.911
Michelle Fern: It's too hot.

00:24:14.131 --> 00:24:18.211
Michelle Fern: And that people unknowingly do, they just say, oh my gosh, I didn't even realize.

00:24:18.531 --> 00:24:19.731
Michelle Fern: Try going barefoot.

00:24:20.191 --> 00:24:24.611
Michelle Fern: I know you said the hand test, but most people are just gonna take their shoe off and touch it.

00:24:24.791 --> 00:24:28.051
Michelle Fern: And you can sometimes from, you could feel the heat from your shoe.

00:24:28.731 --> 00:24:36.351
Michelle Fern: So if that's a great test, too hot for you, too hot for your dog, take your dog just on the grass, come back inside, you're done.

00:24:36.371 --> 00:24:49.271
Cheryl Kaye: But I just wanna tell people because the symptoms of heat stroke in an animal that come on them either right away, a little while later, and it's quick, because they feel the heat different than we do.

00:24:49.531 --> 00:24:55.331
Cheryl Kaye: So they pant, they drool, they could throw up, and they could be disoriented.

00:24:55.771 --> 00:25:06.231
Cheryl Kaye: And the best thing to do is, like I said, when I bring Tilly in from outside or from the park, I have a cool washcloth, I just pat her down with it.

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Cheryl Kaye: Some people soak a towel in cold water.

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Cheryl Kaye: You should only do that if you are gonna continue to do that because you have to get them to regulate their own body.

00:25:17.351 --> 00:25:22.651
Michelle Fern: Well, if your dog shows symptoms of heat stroke, get your dog to the vet or emergency hospital.

00:25:23.071 --> 00:25:23.771
Michelle Fern: That's one.

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Michelle Fern: The other thing is people don't realize is even leaving their dog in a hot car or cat in a hot car for just a few minutes, maybe even five minutes can cause, if it's not full on heat stroke, it can cause, and I've read this, so I'm not a vet, I've read this, but it can cause potential brain damage.

00:25:43.931 --> 00:25:45.231
Cheryl Kaye: That's not to think about.

00:25:45.251 --> 00:25:52.011
Michelle Fern: And other symptoms that are not quite heat stroke, but have significant damage to your fur babe.

00:25:52.231 --> 00:25:55.331
Michelle Fern: So, keep your fur babes home during summer.

00:25:55.371 --> 00:25:57.871
Michelle Fern: If you take them someplace, make sure-

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Cheryl Kaye: The car is on in the air conditioner.

00:25:59.611 --> 00:25:59.911
Michelle Fern: Yeah.

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Cheryl Kaye: I do that.

00:26:00.711 --> 00:26:02.611
Michelle Fern: Make sure it's nice and cool for them.

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Michelle Fern: Yeah.

00:26:03.051 --> 00:26:03.531
Michelle Fern: And you.

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Cheryl Kaye: Yes, and for us too.

00:26:06.471 --> 00:26:08.731
Michelle Fern: So, you have anything else that you wanted to mention?

00:26:09.431 --> 00:26:12.591
Cheryl Kaye: You know, I'm thinking of really getting little booties.

00:26:13.011 --> 00:26:14.651
Michelle Fern: Cheryl, this has been so much fun.

00:26:14.671 --> 00:26:17.551
Michelle Fern: Thank you so much for coming on Best Bets for Pets.

00:26:17.571 --> 00:26:18.851
Michelle Fern: I so appreciate it.

00:26:19.011 --> 00:26:20.211
Cheryl Kaye: Thank you for having me.

00:26:20.451 --> 00:26:23.271
Michelle Fern: I wanna thank everyone listening to Best Bets for Pets.

00:26:23.371 --> 00:26:24.671
Michelle Fern: I so appreciate it.

00:26:24.931 --> 00:26:28.811
Michelle Fern: Thanks to my cat crew that I make sure they're nice and cool.

00:26:28.831 --> 00:26:31.391
Michelle Fern: We keep the AC at 77 for them.

00:26:31.411 --> 00:26:32.611
Michelle Fern: There are plenty of fans.

00:26:32.631 --> 00:26:34.791
Michelle Fern: They're pampered and nice and cool.

00:26:35.191 --> 00:26:38.071
Michelle Fern: And so thanks cat crew, Dennis, Molly and Charlotte.

00:26:38.311 --> 00:26:41.311
Michelle Fern: And again, thanks to my guest, Cheryl Kaye.

00:26:41.331 --> 00:26:42.611
Michelle Fern: So much fun having her on.

00:26:42.851 --> 00:26:47.731
Michelle Fern: And of course, it wouldn't be the same show without the magic of my producer, Mark Winter.

00:26:48.031 --> 00:26:53.111
Michelle Fern: And hey, keep listening because you never know what we're gonna have next on Best Bets for Pets.

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