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Amelia Hendrey is a devoted cat lover who enjoys the peacefulness of country life with her husband, daughter and their four cherished cats. Her days are a delightful mix of running her own cat- sitting business and pouring her heart into her writing. 
When she is not busy taking care of her furry friends, Amelia crafts stories that captivate and inspire. She is the proud author of three books. What Nobody Knew, Let Go Of What You Know and now Ten Cats & One Crazy Cat Lady.

Amelia finds happiness in the simple pleasures of a purring cat on her lap and the satisfaction of a story well told.

 

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Michelle Fern: So excited today because we have a guest, as we say in the US., from across the pond, and she is a crazy cat lady that wrote a fascinating book.

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Michelle Fern: I am so excited for you to meet her, so stay tuned, we'll be right back.

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Michelle Fern: Welcome back, everyone.

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Michelle Fern: I'd like to welcome Amelia Hendrey.

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Michelle Fern: She is the author of 10 Cats and One Crazy Cat Lady.

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Michelle Fern: Welcome, Amelia.

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Amelia Hendrey: Hi, Michelle, thanks for having me.

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Michelle Fern: I'm so excited to have you.

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Michelle Fern: You know, I just, I have to ask this, and we're not a political show, but we're recording this.

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Michelle Fern: It's actually the day before National Cat Day, which we'll talk about a little bit more.

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Michelle Fern: So we're recording this August 7th, and in the US., there's been these political jabs about crazy cat ladies.

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Michelle Fern: So you're in another country, and we're not going to get into anything too political, but what's your opinion on that?

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Amelia Hendrey: Yeah, and every cat person is crazy.

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Amelia Hendrey: We all are.

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Amelia Hendrey: We are absolutely crazy, because you go crazy for the cat, and...

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Michelle Fern: Exactly.

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Amelia Hendrey: Most people, if you have one or two, then I think you are restricting yourself.

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Amelia Hendrey: I think most of us crazy cat ladies, we like three, we like four.

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Amelia Hendrey: We can branch out.

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Amelia Hendrey: Anytime somebody needs rescuing, I think most of the crazy cat ladies will rescue and keep rescuing until we can't anymore.

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Michelle Fern: Right.

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Michelle Fern: And the political job was ridiculous.

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Michelle Fern: But again, we'll keep it off of politics, because I don't want anybody to get offended.

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Michelle Fern: Yes, exactly.

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Michelle Fern: We don't want to offend anyone.

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Michelle Fern: All right.

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Michelle Fern: Let's talk about your book.

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Michelle Fern: When did you start to think of yourself as a crazy cat lady, and again, as you said, crazy cat lady in the best possible way?

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Amelia Hendrey: Yeah.

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Amelia Hendrey: And I think I was born a crazy cat lady.

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Amelia Hendrey: I think I can remember when I was very small, my little chubby arms wrapped around a cat desperate for it to love me.

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Amelia Hendrey: And I am that weird person who will be walking along the street and there'll be a cat walking along the path.

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Amelia Hendrey: And I can't just walk past it.

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Amelia Hendrey: I have to stroke it.

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Amelia Hendrey: I have to make friends with it.

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Amelia Hendrey: And my little heart needs that.

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Amelia Hendrey: And it's fine.

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Amelia Hendrey: So because I know a lot about cats and I've been around a lot of cats, you know, like, as you know, I had 10 cats all at one time.

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Amelia Hendrey: And I just wanted other cat people to share the same experiences that I have.

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Amelia Hendrey: So I wrote them all down and thought, OK, cat community, I want to show you my life with cats.

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Amelia Hendrey: I want to teach you things about cats and everything cat related.

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Amelia Hendrey: I just want you to have it in one little book, which is mine.

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Michelle Fern: You kind of already answered my other questions, which is what inspired you to write the book.

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Michelle Fern: But I still want to ask that because was there, other than what you said before about the Crazy Cat Lady, to answer that question, was there anything else that inspired you to write the book?

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Michelle Fern: And you've already were an author of two other books, not the same subject matter.

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Michelle Fern: But was there anything else that compelled you to tell your story?

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Amelia Hendrey: I didn't want my cats to be forgotten, because every single cat has a different personality.

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Amelia Hendrey: They all have a different way of being and living, and some are more independent, some are more needy.

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Amelia Hendrey: And everybody has that one cat that they connected with on a completely different level.

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Amelia Hendrey: And most of the time you hear them say, oh, well, it was more person than it was cat.

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Amelia Hendrey: And when I meet cat people, they always tell me the stories of we used to have a cat called so-and-so and he used to do this or she used to do that.

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Amelia Hendrey: And you see the love in their eyes.

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Amelia Hendrey: Ever since that cat's gone, whether it be five years, ten years, that love in their eyes is still there.

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Amelia Hendrey: And I'm probably the same.

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Amelia Hendrey: I didn't want my cats to be forgotten.

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Amelia Hendrey: And because I had so many, I wanted them to be remembered.

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Amelia Hendrey: And it doesn't matter how many years fall from now.

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Amelia Hendrey: Whenever you read it, the subject will still be the same.

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Amelia Hendrey: It won't change in the sense of be dated or anything.

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Michelle Fern: So this is cats over a long time.

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Michelle Fern: So you have different cats now.

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Michelle Fern: So cats, unfortunately, they only live so long, so many have passed.

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Michelle Fern: So I'm sorry for your loss.

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Michelle Fern: And anytime a fur babe passes, it's a little hole in your heart.

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Michelle Fern: It's just hard.

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Michelle Fern: But I have to ask, were there any favorites out of the original 10?

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Michelle Fern: Or if you think of all the 10, and there's one that, oh, my mind just goes to that cat, because the cat was so unusual, or quirky, or affectionate, or it's hard.

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Michelle Fern: It's like choosing your favorite child.

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Amelia Hendrey: Am I allowed to stay there in the cat community?

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Amelia Hendrey: Will I not be in serious trouble for picking a favorite?

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Michelle Fern: Oh, and it's hard.

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Amelia Hendrey: My favorite one would have had to have been Shakira, only because, as I said, that people have said to me, she was the one that was more human, in the sense of that she didn't want to be out doing cat stuff.

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Amelia Hendrey: If I was at home with my daughter and my daughter was in the tent, Shakira wanted to be in the tent.

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Amelia Hendrey: If my daughter was on the trampoline, she'd be on the trampoline.

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Amelia Hendrey: Bouncy Castle, same again.

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Amelia Hendrey: It was more of a home cat.

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Amelia Hendrey: And yeah, and I think if I had to pick one, I would pick that one.

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Michelle Fern: Okay.

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Michelle Fern: Well, thanks for selecting your favorite for babe.

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Michelle Fern: Okay.

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Michelle Fern: So obviously, well, maybe not obvious, because you could be any place, but you're in the UK.

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Michelle Fern: We're in the US.

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Michelle Fern: We have, you know, thanks to Internet Global Reach.

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Michelle Fern: And I've had a few guests on the show from the UK.

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Michelle Fern: And one of the things that, and probably because it's so different in the US, that always strikes me as unusual, only because it's so different here in the US, is that UK, it's very common for cats to be indoor outdoor.

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Michelle Fern: It just is.

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Michelle Fern: Maybe not in the cities, but maybe everybody I've had on the show has lived in the country.

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Michelle Fern: But in the US, it's the opposite.

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Michelle Fern: Cats are almost exclusively indoors, for the most part.

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Michelle Fern: We have catios.

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Michelle Fern: I live in a warm place, so it's my patio, which is the catio, but some people build separate little catios for their cats.

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Michelle Fern: And so the cats do go outside, but they're not going through.

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Michelle Fern: But to me, it's, oh my gosh, how can you bring your cat outdoors?

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Michelle Fern: And for you, it's probably, how can you not?

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Michelle Fern: So maybe you can explain that.

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Amelia Hendrey: Absolutely.

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Amelia Hendrey: Is it just pedigrees, or is it all cats in general that are just indoor?

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Michelle Fern: Oh, no, all.

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Michelle Fern: Like all of mine are rescues.

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Amelia Hendrey: All indoor?

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Michelle Fern: All indoors.

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Michelle Fern: I did have five at one time, and two were like, you know, feral community.

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Michelle Fern: One would have been okay indoors, but they were a couple.

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Michelle Fern: So they had, you know, a house outside, they had a water, they had the whole setup, but I couldn't bring them indoors because they were community.

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Michelle Fern: So other than community cats, anybody that has cats almost all the time, they keep their cats indoors.

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Michelle Fern: In my neighborhood, there's one cat that roams around.

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Michelle Fern: I think there's two that roam around that have people, they have homes.

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Michelle Fern: One I thought was abandoned because when we fed them, and the other one, then I saw them in a window, so I thought, oh, not, but everybody else with cats, they're indoors.

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Michelle Fern: So it's almost exclusively indoors.

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Michelle Fern: And it's not just in my area gets quite warm.

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Michelle Fern: But in other areas of the country, I've talked to, you know, I've had a lot of guests from Los Angeles, just all over Midwest, North, all over the place.

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Michelle Fern: And all year long, the cats are indoors.

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Michelle Fern: Yeah.

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Amelia Hendrey: No, as we're in the UK, gosh, the only people that I know with that are indoor are pedigree, pedigree cats that are full breed, like your Burmese, your Siamese.

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Amelia Hendrey: And only because they think that they shouldn't be outdoors, but a lot of everybody else that has regular muggies and other cats like that, they're outdoor.

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Amelia Hendrey: And I don't know why.

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Amelia Hendrey: Like my cats are outdoor because when I got them, either when I rescued or when I had them as kittens, I do this thing where I keep them in for three months so they can get used to the smell in my house, so they understand who we are, so they have the whole transition period where they settle in really well.

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Amelia Hendrey: And then, nine times out of ten, they scratch at the patio door to want to go out.

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Amelia Hendrey: And so, you know, we open the door and they do it.

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Amelia Hendrey: But I have certain ones that will wander.

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Amelia Hendrey: I've got fields behind me.

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Amelia Hendrey: I live in the country, so I live in the countryside, so I've got fields all around me.

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Amelia Hendrey: So some of them, they'll only go to the edge of the field and sniff about, and then other ones, they just stay in the garden.

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Amelia Hendrey: So maybe I'm lucky with the ones that I've had, that they don't wander very far.

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Michelle Fern: Maybe.

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Michelle Fern: I think in the US, we're more concerned about, and I live in a, it's not a city, but it's not the country at all.

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Michelle Fern: And I think there's a small, most of the US were in rural areas, it's urban, it's not too many in the US or in the country of the population.

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Michelle Fern: So I think for those that maybe are living on farms and such, their cats are probably outdoor, indoor, outdoor, and they're probably mousers.

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Michelle Fern: But like in my area, I wouldn't want my cats outdoors.

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Michelle Fern: We have, it's rare to spot an alligator in the waters, but there is that.

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Michelle Fern: There's raccoons, there's possums.

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Amelia Hendrey: That's probably why you're indoor, because we don't have that.

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Amelia Hendrey: We don't have alligators, we don't have possums, we don't have raccoons.

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Pam Johnson-Bennett: Maybe that's it.

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Michelle Fern: I mean, alligators are rare, it's Florida, so there is the small chance, but that is so rare.

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Michelle Fern: But I've seen outside my window, with my two that were Sammy and Jethro that have since gone, but they passed on, but their Jethro disappeared.

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Michelle Fern: Sammy passed away.

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Michelle Fern: We never saw Jethro again, so I don't know what happened.

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Michelle Fern: But I looked outside my window, my window in the house, and seen Sammy and Jethro eating, a raccoon eating out of their bowl, and then a possum, all together having dinner, you know.

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Michelle Fern: So, what about if you don't have any, like, creatures out there?

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Amelia Hendrey: We have foxes, but I've seen the foxes around the cat, not my own cat, other cats, and they haven't really been bothered.

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Amelia Hendrey: Nobody's really bothered anybody.

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Michelle Fern: Maybe that's it, because we have coyotes too, I forgot about that.

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Michelle Fern: And sometimes you see them even in urban areas and parking lots.

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Amelia Hendrey: Yeah, that's probably why then, because it's probably, you know, if we had those, not dangers, but, you know, uncertainties, then, you know, we'd probably keep them in as well.

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Michelle Fern: I think that must be it.

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Michelle Fern: We must have more crazy wildlife here in the US.

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Michelle Fern: And of course it changes with located.

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Michelle Fern: Interesting.

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Michelle Fern: Okay, we're going to take a short break and we will be right back.

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Michelle Fern: Hey, Michelle Fern here.

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Michelle Fern: And you know, saving cats is near and dear to my heart.

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Michelle Fern: Did you know that there is an estimated 70 to 100 million free roaming cats in the United States?

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Michelle Fern: And without spay neuter, that number will keep growing.

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Michelle Fern: Not only does spay neuter mainly reduce the community cat population, but it also keeps cats healthier.

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Michelle Fern: Welcome back, everyone.

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Michelle Fern: We're talking to Amelia Hendrey.

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Michelle Fern: She is the author of 10 Cats and One Crazy Cat Lady.

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Michelle Fern: Okay, so let's talk about a little bit more about your book.

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Michelle Fern: What are some of the messages you want to convey to readers?

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Michelle Fern: And some of your readers might be crazy cat people, ladies or lads, and some might be just, you know, thinking about getting a cat.

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Amelia Hendrey: It wasn't really a message as such.

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Amelia Hendrey: It was sort of an educational journey I was going for, because I went to Amsterdam and went on a floating boat to meet cats.

00:15:46.414 --> 00:15:50.854
Amelia Hendrey: And there was a lady there who, well, this boat had been passed on to her.

00:15:50.854 --> 00:15:55.934
Amelia Hendrey: She'd been one of the volunteers, and she has a rehoming center on a boat.

00:15:55.934 --> 00:15:57.574
Amelia Hendrey: And I went and met her.

00:15:57.574 --> 00:15:59.994
Amelia Hendrey: I went to a cat cafe in London.

00:15:59.994 --> 00:16:01.994
Amelia Hendrey: I went to Rome to see cat.

00:16:01.994 --> 00:16:10.934
Amelia Hendrey: And all of these things that, you know, people might not necessarily know about that they would want to go to, or they would want to go to if they read about it.

00:16:10.934 --> 00:16:14.254
Amelia Hendrey: You know, like cat shows and cat festivals.

00:16:14.254 --> 00:16:16.414
Amelia Hendrey: I hadn't really known a lot about them.

00:16:16.414 --> 00:16:23.734
Amelia Hendrey: I wanted to go and see for myself, because with the cats that I had, some of my cats would not be tolerant enough to go to a cat show.

00:16:23.734 --> 00:16:29.114
Amelia Hendrey: You get the cats that are a bit scared, or you get the cats that not show pieces at all.

00:16:29.114 --> 00:16:33.554
Amelia Hendrey: You know, they act in sort of like a gruff way, and they like to rough and tumble.

00:16:33.774 --> 00:16:38.494
Amelia Hendrey: And I wanted to see for myself, and I went, and it was absolutely extraordinary.

00:16:38.494 --> 00:16:42.114
Amelia Hendrey: The people and the cats, the cats love it.

00:16:42.114 --> 00:16:44.054
Amelia Hendrey: They love to be brushed.

00:16:44.054 --> 00:16:45.594
Amelia Hendrey: They love to show off.

00:16:45.594 --> 00:16:53.734
Amelia Hendrey: And you know, I thought this, readers would love to read about this, and just sort of get a sense of what happens there.

00:16:53.734 --> 00:17:00.274
Amelia Hendrey: The fact that I had a polydactyl cat as well, that's something that not many people know about.

00:17:00.394 --> 00:17:02.794
Amelia Hendrey: It's a cat with extra toes.

00:17:02.794 --> 00:17:09.974
Amelia Hendrey: Ernest Hemingway bred them also from, I think it's Florida, Ernest Hemingway's house in your neck of the woods.

00:17:09.974 --> 00:17:11.534
Michelle Fern: Right, in the keys.

00:17:11.534 --> 00:17:12.274
Amelia Hendrey: Yeah, that's right.

00:17:12.274 --> 00:17:18.474
Amelia Hendrey: Yeah, and he was the one that first created the polydactyls and lots of people don't know about them.

00:17:18.474 --> 00:17:20.874
Amelia Hendrey: And so I wanted to bring attention to them.

00:17:20.874 --> 00:17:27.694
Amelia Hendrey: And then obviously the werewolf cat, which is a brand new breed again, found in your country for the first time.

00:17:28.254 --> 00:17:33.614
Amelia Hendrey: And they are absolutely mesmerizing the werewolf cat.

00:17:33.614 --> 00:17:36.054
Michelle Fern: Let's talk about that breed for a second.

00:17:36.054 --> 00:17:41.774
Michelle Fern: It's called a Lykoi, L-Y-K-O-I, and they look like little werewolves.

00:17:41.774 --> 00:17:42.654
Amelia Hendrey: They do, yeah.

00:17:42.654 --> 00:17:47.834
Amelia Hendrey: They've got a mask on their face where their fur's receding.

00:17:47.834 --> 00:17:55.034
Amelia Hendrey: Their fur is very coarse and wiry looking, but when you stroke it, it feels like kitten soft.

00:17:55.034 --> 00:18:00.014
Amelia Hendrey: So it gives you this misconception of what it actually looks and then feels like.

00:18:00.014 --> 00:18:02.114
Amelia Hendrey: They've got little balding feet.

00:18:02.114 --> 00:18:04.174
Amelia Hendrey: Their tail is completely bald.

00:18:04.174 --> 00:18:06.594
Amelia Hendrey: They are never seen anything like it.

00:18:06.594 --> 00:18:17.074
Amelia Hendrey: And to see one, well, I thought two, to see two of them up close and personal was astonishing because I walked into the room and you had this sense of uncertainty.

00:18:17.074 --> 00:18:24.174
Amelia Hendrey: You know, like if you walked in the room with a lion, you know that that creature is completely top of the food chain.

00:18:24.514 --> 00:18:27.754
Amelia Hendrey: And that is the feeling that I got with the Lycoy.

00:18:27.754 --> 00:18:29.294
Amelia Hendrey: It was very majestic.

00:18:29.594 --> 00:18:32.594
Amelia Hendrey: It made me feel that I was with Royal Bz.

00:18:32.594 --> 00:18:43.634
Amelia Hendrey: But the first time I met it was at a cat show and it literally had the zipper open of its cat carrier and it just laid there with its arms stretched out, waiting for me to stroke it.

00:18:43.634 --> 00:18:49.754
Amelia Hendrey: And I stroked it and it was, and there was lots and lots of people around and you know, making a lot of noise, wanting to fuss it.

00:18:49.754 --> 00:18:51.874
Amelia Hendrey: And it just sat there like it was a celebrity.

00:18:51.874 --> 00:18:53.554
Amelia Hendrey: It had no bother whatsoever.

00:18:53.914 --> 00:18:57.394
Amelia Hendrey: And you know, I thought that was absolutely phenomenal.

00:18:57.394 --> 00:19:02.114
Michelle Fern: You know, I would like to go to a cat show just to see all the different breeds.

00:19:02.114 --> 00:19:03.434
Michelle Fern: Let's see, what do I have now?

00:19:03.434 --> 00:19:07.214
Michelle Fern: I have Dennis' part Maine Coon from What We Think.

00:19:07.214 --> 00:19:09.514
Michelle Fern: Charlotte and Molly are mixed.

00:19:09.514 --> 00:19:13.614
Michelle Fern: Molly's in Tuxedo, but that's, you know, not really breed.

00:19:13.614 --> 00:19:18.874
Michelle Fern: All of mine have been, you know, rescues that found me, which happens a lot.

00:19:18.874 --> 00:19:27.294
Michelle Fern: Okay, let's talk about cat sitting, because you also change careers while you were writing your book and became a cat sitter.

00:19:27.294 --> 00:19:35.714
Michelle Fern: Now, not everybody out there is looking to be a cat sitter, but a lot of people are interested in, oh, I have to hire a cat sitter.

00:19:35.714 --> 00:19:39.934
Michelle Fern: So can you give us a few tips on it for those looking for a cat sitter?

00:19:39.934 --> 00:19:41.754
Michelle Fern: What should they look for?

00:19:41.754 --> 00:19:54.434
Michelle Fern: And you've had some adventures, but we'll save, we're gonna, we're not gonna have time to go on to all of them, but we'll definitely, you should read the book, because there's a lot, a lot of information we're not covering for everyone.

00:19:54.434 --> 00:20:01.794
Michelle Fern: But what are some tips for those that, you know, are going out of town and need a cat sitter?

00:20:01.794 --> 00:20:07.414
Amelia Hendrey: Okay, so look for somebody that will look after your cats, how you would look after your cats.

00:20:07.414 --> 00:20:12.194
Amelia Hendrey: Because when I go into my client's homes, I say that I am a mirror image of them.

00:20:12.974 --> 00:20:20.594
Amelia Hendrey: So when their cat needs, whatever time their cat needs to be fed, how they do things, I do it exactly the same as they do.

00:20:20.594 --> 00:20:23.994
Amelia Hendrey: Because I want the cats to feel that nothing's changed.

00:20:23.994 --> 00:20:29.414
Amelia Hendrey: All it is is a different person, their layouts and how they do things is still exactly the same.

00:20:29.414 --> 00:20:35.554
Amelia Hendrey: I make sure that I have a DBS check, which shows that I don't have any criminal background.

00:20:35.554 --> 00:20:37.054
Amelia Hendrey: I have insurance.

00:20:37.054 --> 00:20:40.594
Amelia Hendrey: So if anything happens while I'm in their home, then I'm insured for it.

00:20:41.014 --> 00:20:44.974
Amelia Hendrey: And just, you know, importantly, mainly you're feeling.

00:20:44.974 --> 00:20:50.914
Amelia Hendrey: The person, if they're cat sitting for you, they have to have a love for cats and they have got to know cats.

00:20:50.914 --> 00:20:53.554
Amelia Hendrey: Because I have a lot of clients say to me, Oh, do you do dogs?

00:20:53.554 --> 00:20:57.614
Amelia Hendrey: And I'm like, well, no, I don't do dogs because I don't understand dogs.

00:20:57.614 --> 00:21:01.654
Amelia Hendrey: I can have six different types of personalities of dogs.

00:21:01.654 --> 00:21:03.114
Amelia Hendrey: And I don't really know.

00:21:03.114 --> 00:21:08.754
Amelia Hendrey: I know that if a dog's snarling, obviously, it's going to bite probably or if it's got its ears back, it's not happy.

00:21:08.894 --> 00:21:11.034
Amelia Hendrey: But as a rule, I don't know it as well.

00:21:11.034 --> 00:21:16.734
Amelia Hendrey: With a cat, I can have a sense of whether it's friendly, not friendly, unsure.

00:21:16.734 --> 00:21:21.734
Amelia Hendrey: You know, within a couple of seconds of meeting it, I literally am good in that way.

00:21:21.734 --> 00:21:24.294
Amelia Hendrey: I also can tell if cats are unwell.

00:21:24.294 --> 00:21:31.674
Amelia Hendrey: So if they've got the third eyelid, I can do a dehydration test, which is, you know, gently left in the scruff to see if they're dehydrated.

00:21:31.674 --> 00:21:34.054
Amelia Hendrey: So, you know, I've learned a lot of things along the way.

00:21:34.054 --> 00:21:39.934
Amelia Hendrey: And so, you know, you do genuinely want to have somebody who knows quite a bit about cats.

00:21:39.934 --> 00:21:47.274
Amelia Hendrey: Otherwise, it's not easy for you to leave your pet with somebody who's not really sure what can happen with animals.

00:21:47.274 --> 00:21:49.154
Michelle Fern: That's great advice.

00:21:49.154 --> 00:21:51.514
Michelle Fern: And of course, references.

00:21:51.514 --> 00:21:52.974
Amelia Hendrey: Yeah, references.

00:21:52.974 --> 00:21:56.054
Amelia Hendrey: I have a multitude of references.

00:21:56.054 --> 00:21:56.354
Michelle Fern: Right.

00:21:56.354 --> 00:21:58.574
Michelle Fern: And that's something people should look for too.

00:21:58.574 --> 00:21:59.854
Michelle Fern: Well, we have some time.

00:21:59.854 --> 00:22:04.754
Michelle Fern: Any quick tips on those that are looking to cat sit?

00:22:04.754 --> 00:22:05.614
Amelia Hendrey: Do your homework.

00:22:05.614 --> 00:22:06.814
Amelia Hendrey: Do your homework on cats.

00:22:07.094 --> 00:22:10.614
Amelia Hendrey: There's a brilliant book called the Cat Encyclopedia.

00:22:10.614 --> 00:22:12.414
Amelia Hendrey: It tells you all different cat breeds.

00:22:12.414 --> 00:22:18.834
Amelia Hendrey: It tells you about cat first aid, all different bits and pieces in there that will get you started.

00:22:18.834 --> 00:22:23.674
Amelia Hendrey: And mainly, when you look after cats, don't get in a cat's face.

00:22:23.674 --> 00:22:24.914
Amelia Hendrey: Let a cat come to you.

00:22:24.914 --> 00:22:30.114
Amelia Hendrey: Let a cat show you what it likes rather than you going all gunners blazing towards it.

00:22:30.114 --> 00:22:32.474
Michelle Fern: Yeah, you'll regret it because you'll be scratched.

00:22:33.074 --> 00:22:35.294
Amelia Hendrey: Yeah, you know, you have to build a rapport with the cat.

00:22:36.194 --> 00:22:42.994
Amelia Hendrey: You can't have a cat scared of you because if you need to deal with it in an emergency, then you can't help anyone in that situation.

00:22:42.994 --> 00:22:45.994
Michelle Fern: Okay, thank you for that great information.

00:22:45.994 --> 00:22:51.074
Michelle Fern: Here's something, another question, and I've gotten this asked a lot over the years.

00:22:51.074 --> 00:22:58.494
Michelle Fern: What do you suggest for those that are thinking about becoming a cat lady or cat guy?

00:22:58.494 --> 00:22:59.674
Michelle Fern: They love cats.

00:22:59.674 --> 00:23:02.934
Michelle Fern: They have not adopted in a cat before.

00:23:02.934 --> 00:23:04.334
Amelia Hendrey: Do it, absolutely.

00:23:04.414 --> 00:23:06.134
Amelia Hendrey: And cats always need homes.

00:23:06.134 --> 00:23:14.614
Amelia Hendrey: A lot of people struggle because when you first get a cat, you expect it to know your rules, know your life, know everything about it.

00:23:14.614 --> 00:23:15.794
Amelia Hendrey: It takes time.

00:23:15.794 --> 00:23:19.474
Amelia Hendrey: When you first get a cat, you have to slowly introduce.

00:23:19.474 --> 00:23:21.694
Amelia Hendrey: A lot of the time, they don't like fast movements.

00:23:21.694 --> 00:23:24.434
Amelia Hendrey: You know, they like to find a safe space.

00:23:24.434 --> 00:23:34.694
Amelia Hendrey: Like we rehomed one just recently, Chloe, and I made her a little bed in the bedroom, and it was hidden in a little corner, and she found it and got in it.

00:23:34.694 --> 00:23:42.894
Amelia Hendrey: And for ages, I think, what, a month and a half, she was in that little bed in the corner, and if she ever got scared, she would run to that bed.

00:23:42.894 --> 00:23:48.134
Amelia Hendrey: And now she comes out and she lays on a different bed, and she lays in the spare room.

00:23:48.134 --> 00:23:55.554
Amelia Hendrey: So, you know, they all take time to adapt to opening up, and some take longer more than others.

00:23:55.554 --> 00:23:57.734
Amelia Hendrey: So it just depends on what you get.

00:23:57.734 --> 00:24:05.374
Amelia Hendrey: And if you keep it as calm as possible and let the cat lead, then you should have no problem.

00:24:05.374 --> 00:24:15.994
Michelle Fern: I think you hit it on the head because prior to Dennis was my first cat, and he's part Maine Coon, so they call Maine Coons the dog of cats.

00:24:16.274 --> 00:24:22.794
Michelle Fern: I had had dogs before, so you have to be patient, which is not something, not my strong suit.

00:24:22.794 --> 00:24:27.934
Michelle Fern: So, and with Dennis being the dog-like cat, I didn't have to be as patient.

00:24:28.054 --> 00:24:36.074
Michelle Fern: So I really learned about cats through Molly, because she was a kitten, but as she grew up, I've learned, you know, this is who she is.

00:24:36.074 --> 00:24:38.354
Michelle Fern: At first, I thought, oh, she likes my spouse.

00:24:38.354 --> 00:24:39.734
Michelle Fern: She doesn't care for me.

00:24:39.734 --> 00:24:41.714
Michelle Fern: But now she'll come if I call her.

00:24:41.714 --> 00:24:45.614
Michelle Fern: I had to learn her, and I had to learn her habits.

00:24:45.614 --> 00:24:50.574
Michelle Fern: When she goes to put up her paw at a claw, that's her saying, hey, I need my time.

00:24:50.574 --> 00:24:56.034
Michelle Fern: It doesn't mean I don't like you, but this is how they defend themselves, because they're the creatures they are.

00:24:56.674 --> 00:25:04.414
Michelle Fern: So you have to really be patient and understand who they are, what they want.

00:25:04.414 --> 00:25:08.954
Michelle Fern: And as you said in your book, some cats, Molly, you cannot pick up, not a lap cat.

00:25:08.954 --> 00:25:14.354
Michelle Fern: Maybe when she gets older, she's seven, almost eight.

00:25:14.354 --> 00:25:20.214
Michelle Fern: So maybe at some point in her old age, she'll be more willing, but she doesn't like it.

00:25:20.214 --> 00:25:24.634
Michelle Fern: Dennis, you could brush, you could tickle his stomach, you can do anything.

00:25:24.734 --> 00:25:26.594
Michelle Fern: I could cut his nails.

00:25:26.594 --> 00:25:27.954
Michelle Fern: Molly, forget about it.

00:25:27.954 --> 00:25:29.354
Michelle Fern: I would be clawed up.

00:25:29.354 --> 00:25:35.134
Michelle Fern: So they all have their little idiosyncrasies, and you have to just be patient.

00:25:35.134 --> 00:25:37.694
Amelia Hendrey: And a lot of it is vision as well because they can't talk.

00:25:37.694 --> 00:25:38.894
Michelle Fern: Exactly.

00:25:38.894 --> 00:25:48.474
Amelia Hendrey: Dogs bark, dogs yell, dogs can be very vocal as where cats, one minute they're putting their paw up saying, no, I've had enough.

00:25:48.474 --> 00:25:51.074
Amelia Hendrey: If you don't listen, then chances are you'll get scratched.

00:25:51.594 --> 00:25:58.274
Amelia Hendrey: But the main point is, is that when you've got a cat's trust, then that's it, your friends for life, I think.

00:25:58.274 --> 00:25:59.334
Michelle Fern: Very true.

00:25:59.334 --> 00:26:00.514
Michelle Fern: Very true.

00:26:00.514 --> 00:26:02.194
Michelle Fern: Definitely patience.

00:26:02.194 --> 00:26:07.254
Michelle Fern: Some cats are just going to be quirky and misunderstood, and that's how they are.

00:26:07.254 --> 00:26:08.154
Michelle Fern: That's Charlotte.

00:26:08.154 --> 00:26:09.354
Michelle Fern: That's my Charlotte cat.

00:26:09.354 --> 00:26:12.894
Michelle Fern: She was, she was feral and adopted at four or five months.

00:26:12.894 --> 00:26:16.674
Michelle Fern: I don't know what happened before that, but she's just frightened and has issues.

00:26:16.674 --> 00:26:24.294
Michelle Fern: And with all the learning I've had on from Cattitude, and other research I've done, that's just how she is.

00:26:24.294 --> 00:26:26.214
Michelle Fern: I don't think anything will ever change.

00:26:26.214 --> 00:26:26.674
Amelia Hendrey: Lou.

00:26:26.674 --> 00:26:28.354
Michelle Fern: Oh, this is how she is.

00:26:28.354 --> 00:26:32.434
Michelle Fern: Okay, so you also are donating part of the proceeds of your book.

00:26:32.434 --> 00:26:33.834
Michelle Fern: Can you tell us about that?

00:26:33.834 --> 00:26:53.614
Amelia Hendrey: Yeah, so when I went to de Bozembou, the floating cat sanctuary in Amsterdam, I met Judith, the lady who now currently runs it, and she explained that there was a lady before her that did it, and the lady before her had cats at her home, and people would always come and bring these cats that needed rehoming to the lady.

00:26:53.614 --> 00:27:00.234
Amelia Hendrey: And the lady ended up having lots and lots of cats in her home and then couldn't have them, because obviously it was starting to get too many.

00:27:00.234 --> 00:27:05.814
Amelia Hendrey: So she sold her house, bought a boat, put them all on the boat, and then would rehome them.

00:27:05.814 --> 00:27:10.854
Amelia Hendrey: So then unfortunately she passed away, and Judith was one of the volunteers at the time and took over.

00:27:10.854 --> 00:27:13.394
Amelia Hendrey: So everything is done by donations.

00:27:13.394 --> 00:27:16.954
Amelia Hendrey: So the cats' vet bills are done, everything.

00:27:17.354 --> 00:27:21.274
Amelia Hendrey: If the boat needs fixing, everything is by donations.

00:27:21.274 --> 00:27:46.034
Amelia Hendrey: And I thought she was really lovely because she says that she rehomes cats, kittens, and for any reason, if they go to the new owner and they don't fit well or it's not a good fit, and the cat has issues where it will keep peeing in a certain place because it's uncomfortable or they can't handle it because of X, Y, Z.

00:27:46.614 --> 00:27:50.794
Amelia Hendrey: Then Judith says, don't try and rehome it again, bring it back to me.

00:27:50.794 --> 00:27:54.794
Amelia Hendrey: And so she says that the cats will always have a home at Du Bois and Boots.

00:27:54.794 --> 00:27:56.234
Amelia Hendrey: And I thought that was really lovely.

00:27:56.234 --> 00:28:03.654
Amelia Hendrey: You've gone to the efforts to rehome it, but you then want it back to then find it the correct home, which I thought was lovely.

00:28:03.654 --> 00:28:09.514
Amelia Hendrey: And a part of me thinks that if Judith hadn't have done the bow, then I would be the boat lady.

00:28:09.514 --> 00:28:17.034
Amelia Hendrey: I would have gone out and bought a bow and put all the cats on it, and I would just be living my best life.

00:28:17.034 --> 00:28:19.454
Michelle Fern: Maybe you could do that with a barn or something.

00:28:19.454 --> 00:28:21.194
Amelia Hendrey: You see, do you want in on that with me?

00:28:21.194 --> 00:28:22.334
Amelia Hendrey: Should we do it?

00:28:22.334 --> 00:28:23.754
Michelle Fern: I know, right?

00:28:25.034 --> 00:28:34.514
Amelia Hendrey: And I thought, really what, because of the book, every time somebody buys a book, we can give a percentage of it to Depos and Boo to help Judith keep doing what she's doing.

00:28:34.514 --> 00:28:35.314
Michelle Fern: Oh, that's wonderful.

00:28:35.314 --> 00:28:37.354
Amelia Hendrey: Because I thought it would be fantastic.

00:28:37.354 --> 00:28:39.894
Michelle Fern: I hope everybody enjoyed this show.

00:28:40.534 --> 00:28:50.754
Michelle Fern: And as coincident, I don't know, but we're recording this August 7th and August 8th, 8th, 8th is International Cat Day.

00:28:50.754 --> 00:28:55.714
Michelle Fern: And Amelia, before you tell us where to buy the book, you have some personal ties to this day.

00:28:55.714 --> 00:28:56.794
Amelia Hendrey: I do, I do.

00:28:56.794 --> 00:29:03.734
Amelia Hendrey: So tomorrow, 8th of August, International Cat Day, is my daughter Piper's 11th birthday.

00:29:03.734 --> 00:29:10.254
Amelia Hendrey: And I feel that because she was born on International Cat Day, it's a sign, and she must be part cat.

00:29:10.254 --> 00:29:11.754
Michelle Fern: Very true.

00:29:11.754 --> 00:29:19.154
Amelia Hendrey: So yeah, so the book is available to buy on Amazon, and it's available as paperback or Kindle.

00:29:19.154 --> 00:29:23.794
Michelle Fern: Well, I want to thank you so much for coming on Cattitude, and I wish you amazing success.

00:29:23.794 --> 00:29:25.914
Michelle Fern: Thanks for all you do for the cats.

00:29:25.914 --> 00:29:27.634
Amelia Hendrey: Thank you very much.

00:29:27.634 --> 00:29:29.794
Michelle Fern: Oh, I hope everybody enjoyed this show.

00:29:29.814 --> 00:29:32.614
Michelle Fern: I had a great time talking to Amelia.

00:29:32.614 --> 00:29:38.734
Michelle Fern: Please check out her book, Ten Cats and One Crazy Cat Lady by Amelia Hendrey.

00:29:38.734 --> 00:29:41.394
Michelle Fern: I want to thank everybody that's listening to Cattitude.

00:29:41.394 --> 00:29:42.814
Michelle Fern: Thank you so much.

00:29:42.814 --> 00:29:46.114
Michelle Fern: I appreciate your listenership and your loyalty.

00:29:46.114 --> 00:29:46.574
Michelle Fern: Thank you.

00:29:46.574 --> 00:29:47.474
Michelle Fern: Thank you.

00:29:47.474 --> 00:29:53.434
Michelle Fern: Thanks to my cat crew, which is now Dennis, Charlotte and Molly.

00:29:53.454 --> 00:29:57.494
Michelle Fern: And in Cat Heaven, of course, we have Sammy and Jethro.

00:29:57.494 --> 00:30:02.094
Michelle Fern: So thank you cats for teaching me all about cats and patience.

00:30:02.094 --> 00:30:02.814
Michelle Fern: So thank you.

00:30:03.474 --> 00:30:10.954
Michelle Fern: And of course, a huge thank you to my producer, Mark Winter, for working his magic and making this show sound amazing.

00:30:10.954 --> 00:30:14.294
Michelle Fern: Remember, lose the attitude, have cattitude.

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