Covered In Pet Hair

Join Isabel and second-time guest, Tim Link, for a conversation about animal communication, how it can help pet parents, and how to protect oneself from charlatans claiming they can "read" pets. In this episode, Tim gets candid about animal communication as a skill and offers resources for those who want to engage an animal communicator as well as those who want to develop the skills themselves. We discuss why Tim dislikes the word "reading" when used to describe animal communication sessions, and Isabel shares her first experience with an animal communicator - Tim himself! Enjoy the show!

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BIO:

Tim Link is president and CEO of Wagging Tales and is a practicing animal communicator.  As part of his passion for helping animals, Tim also has mastered Reiki – an ancient art of energy healing – which he uses on animals.

Tim has recently been featured in numerous newspaper, television and radio shows including the Associated Press, “The Morning Show with Mike and Juliet,” “Good Day Atlanta,” Forsyth County News, The Bronx Times, Species Link, “Live Your Legacy”, “Cumming Home”, Luxury Las Vegas, Woman2Woman, and remains a regular guest on three internet radio shows.  Since May 2008, Tim has been a featured AJCpets.com expert for the Atlanta Journal-Constitution.

Tim grew up in Richmond, Ind.  He married his high school sweetheart, Kim, and graduated from Ball State University with a Bachelor of Science degree in sales and marketing. After graduation, he built a successful twenty plus year career in sales management for the telecommunications industry, earning numerous awards and promotions for his achievements. He was living his dream as an all-American guy.

In February 2004, Tim learned (with great surprise) that he could communicate telepathically with animals.  Until then, he had no idea he had this ability.  Initially, Tim never intended to let many people know about his newfound gift.  He practiced with his own pets and those of his family and close friends as well as those boarded at the local rescue shelter.  As he continued to practice on more and more animals, he noticed his gift was getting stronger.  One day while volunteering at the shelter, a friend “outed” him and recommended that he help another friend who was having a situation with a pet. 

Since his gift continued to expand and could not be ignored, he decided to embrace this new way of helping animals.  Tim officially formed Wagging Tales in November 2007 to communicate with animals and their owners, and to perform Reiki energy healing on pets.  Tim also volunteered as the past president of the Humane Society of Forsyth County – a no-kill shelter.  He enjoys spending time at home with his wife and their many pets in Cumming, Georgia

Transcript:

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Announcer: This is Pet Life Radio.

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Announcer: Let's talk pets.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Welcome to Covered In Pet Hair, a boozy show for pet lovers on Pet Life Radio.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I'm your host, Isabel Alvarez Arata, and today I have the pleasure of having a drink and a chat with a very good friend of mine who also happens to be a fantastic animal communicator and so much more.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I will tell you all about him and introduce you as soon as we come back from these messages from our sponsors.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Hi, I'm Isabel Alvarez Arata, the host of Covered In Pet Hair.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: You know the expression, cats have 9 lives?

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Well, what if you could give them one more?

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: The Give Them Ten movement is on a mission to help give cats an extra life.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: How?

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: With spay and neuter.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Spaying and neutering your cat helps them live a longer, healthier life.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: And it helps control re-roaming cat populations too.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Learn more about the benefits of spay and neuter and meet Scooter, the neutered cat, at givethemten.org.

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Announcer: Let's talk pets on petliferadio.com.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Welcome back to Covered In Pet Hair.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I'm your host, Isabel Alvarez Arata, and today I have the pleasure of having a drink and a chat with an author, a writer, an animal communicator.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: He's a speaker, a radio host, a reiki master and a speaker.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: He's a finder of Lost Pets, the host of Animal Rights on Pet Life Radio.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: He's originally from Indiana and now lives in georgia.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: He is husband to Dear Kim, who I've never met in person but love very much.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: And dog dad to Dusty and Kramer.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Again, I've never met them, but I feel like I know them.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: He has a kitty cat named E and is a rescue advocate and volunteer.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: He is the CEO of Wagging Tales.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Tales as in the tales they tell, not the tales they wag, he says.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: He is Tim Link.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Welcome back, Tim.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: He was my first guest on Covered In Pet Hair.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: It's great to have you back.

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Tim Link: Yay.

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Tim Link: Great to be back.

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Tim Link: It's always great to talk to you, to talk about the latest and greatest things going on.

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Tim Link: And of course, just have a nice little drink and a little chat while we're at it.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Exactly.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: It's about time I was in Savannah but not close enough to go say hi recently.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: And it's always great to find out what's happening in the animal communication space, a space that I have never been good at.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: So that's why I keep you close so that I can delegate that task to you and call upon you whenever I feel like I need a little extra connection with my pets because I for some reason just can't quiet my mind long enough.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: But we're going to get into all of that, what animal communication is, who Tim Link is, if you are not familiar with him, which you should be.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: But before we do all that, I'm going to introduce our drinking game today.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: So anybody at home participating within our drinking game, anytime you hear this word, the secret word is dusty.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Take a drink of whatever you're enjoying, but please be over 21 in the US to partake, never drink and drive, and always drink responsibly.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: So I hear you're joining us with a libation today, Tim.

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Tim Link: Absolutely.

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Tim Link: A little cocktail, a little after-hour cocktail here.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Very nice.

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Tim Link: It's good for the soul.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: It is good for the soul.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: It is good for the soul.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I actually made a little concoction for myself.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: This I called a Queen Chamoy cocktail, which is a mix of chamoy, which is a very El Paso, very Mexican flavor.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: It's a sauce that we put in our desserts and our fruits.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Then I just topped it with a little Corona Refresca, Tropical Punch Pineapple.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Basically, the chamoy is really viscous and dense.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: It falls at the bottom of my glass.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Then it mixes slowly in with the, I guess, hard seltzer, hard whatever that is.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Cheers.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Thank you for being on the show again.

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Tim Link: Absolutely.

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Tim Link: My pleasure.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: All right.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Well, I already did a show with Tim.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: So if anybody wants to know how Tim got into animal communication, how he has grown his huge following around the world, and how he finds lost pets using that skill, you can go to my first episode ever on Pet Life Radio on YouTube and look up that show, which was super fun, a little spicy.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: It was a really great show.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: It was one of my favorites to do.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: But today we're going to actually just catch up, and I want my audience to get to know you a little bit better than just like the small talk and the what do you do.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: So I'm going to invite you to play, Tim, a game called Curious Kitty.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: This Curious Kitty has some questions inside, and I'm just going to ask you three questions from Mr.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Kitty's Lanter.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: The first one is, which movie character inspires you and why?

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Tim Link: Inspires me?

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Tim Link: Oh my gosh.

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Tim Link: When you first said it, this is so sad.

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Tim Link: I was thinking that you were going to ask me, what was the first one that popped in my mind?

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Tim Link: And it was Forrest Gump.

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Tim Link: And I'm like, oh my God.

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Tim Link: Wait a minute.

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Tim Link: I'm thinking, okay, well, wait a minute.

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Tim Link: She mentioned Savannah.

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Tim Link: That's where it was filmed.

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Tim Link: Forrest Gump was filmed in Savannah.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: That's exactly right.

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Tim Link: So maybe that's why.

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Tim Link: I'll stick with Forrest Gump, you know, he overcame challenges, overcame people who thought he's a little different, was very successful.

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Tim Link: And yeah, that's my story and I'm sticking to it.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I love that answer.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: That is exactly the level of answer I would have expected from you.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Okay, this is a really good one.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: And I would love to hear what you have to say.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: If you could time travel, where would you go?

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Tim Link: Oh boy.

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Tim Link: That's a good one.

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Tim Link: I love that.

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Tim Link: Too challenging there, I think.

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Tim Link: Where would I go?

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Tim Link: I know there's so many places to go.

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Tim Link: Okay, so I'll paraphrase this is I live a dog's life, okay?

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Tim Link: So we all have a past, we have a present, we have a future.

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Tim Link: And we know our dogs in particular or our animals in general live in the present.

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Tim Link: So we allow them to live in the present moment to fulfill their purpose while they're here.

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Tim Link: They know they have a future to look forward to and occasionally look back at the past, but mostly to focus on the present.

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Tim Link: So I probably wouldn't go too much of anywhere.

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Tim Link: I will say this.

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Tim Link: I'm coming up on my 38th anniversary with Kim.

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Tim Link: We've known each other for 45 years.

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Tim Link: We were two when we met.

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Tim Link: That's my story.

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Tim Link: And so, yeah, I expect that first day.

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Tim Link: Because there was nothing better.

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Tim Link: That is, when you see the love of your life and you see them for the first time, it was like it happened yesterday.

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Tim Link: So that's where I'm going to go back to because I love that day and it's going to give me a big kudos to when she hears this episode.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: So, he's laying it on the bed, Kim.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: He's laying it on the bed.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: All right, last one.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Describe the fanciest meal you've ever eaten.

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Tim Link: The fanciest meal I've ever eaten.

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Tim Link: Oh my gosh.

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Tim Link: Well, I tell you the one that pops to my head the most.

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Tim Link: I had several opportunities to visit the south of France.

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Tim Link: Beautiful place.

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Tim Link: So, I went to Monaco and Nice and Cannes and all through the southern part of France.

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Tim Link: This was mostly in my older days in my business life, but I still had chances to enjoy it.

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Tim Link: And so, we had at one of the meals, actually multiple meals, a filet of sea bass, salt encrusted sea bass.

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Tim Link: So, this is where they bring the full sea bass out.

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Tim Link: Skin and all, head and all, it's dead, it's sort of been cooked.

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Tim Link: But they cook it all day long in this nice, thick, salted rock salt.

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Tim Link: It's so flaky, you can't even pick it up with a fork.

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Tim Link: It's just so tender.

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Tim Link: It's helpful in the fact that you're in the southern part of France, and you're overlooking the ocean and the bay, and you've got the yachts around you, and all the beautiful people, and they let puppy dogs go around everywhere on their leash to every meal.

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Tim Link: And then you've got the nice sea bass, and a nice glass of wine.

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Tim Link: Yeah.

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Tim Link: I don't know if that was necessarily the fanciest, but it has to be right there at the top.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Well, that's really funny you should say that.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: My family and I go to Barcelona all the time, and we always go to the same restaurant, you know, because my family is from Spain.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: We always go to the same restaurant, we always have the same kind of dishes.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: And we always debate whether the food is really that good, or is it just the fact that you're like right on the Mediterranean, that it's comfortable because we already know it, and we know, you know, it's always so good.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: But is it really, would it be as good inside?

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Because they do have inside seating, and we refuse to sit inside in the same exact restaurant.

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Tim Link: I tell you, when you go to the south of France or Barcelona, I've been to Barcelona, a beautiful place, lovely architecture, and you're right there.

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Tim Link: Like I said, the scenery, you got to eat outside if you had to put a little jacket on.

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Tim Link: But I will say, being an American, dinner time is usually what, six o'clock, seven o'clock, maybe.

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Tim Link: If it's eight, that's, well, don't eat after eight o'clock.

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Tim Link: Well, you know, not as a Spain, ten o'clock is dinner time, you know.

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Tim Link: So if you sit down at ten o'clock, you're actually there early.

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Tim Link: So early bird special at ten p.m.

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Tim Link: Yes, exactly.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: They love it.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: They love it.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I actually threw a baby shower for my sister in Spain and it started at nine thirty p.m.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Yeah, exactly.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: The kitchen didn't open earlier.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: That was the earliest the kitchen opens.

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Tim Link: Makes us hard on us Americans.

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Tim Link: We think we got it.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I was already, I was ready for my like after dinner drink in my bed, like when we first sat down.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: All right.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Well, how have things been since you and I last spoke?

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: The last time you and I spoke was recently, but the last time you were on the show was December of 2020.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: So how has life been?

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: What have you been up to?

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Tim Link: Well, personally, things have been going great.

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Tim Link: Everything's wonderful.

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Tim Link: The puppies are fine.

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Tim Link: The kitty cat's fine.

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Tim Link: My mother-in-law is having some challenges with Alzheimer's.

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Tim Link: So we moved her closer to home so we could take, you know, take care of her and run her back and forth.

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Tim Link: The doctor's appointment said so.

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Tim Link: So life's been a little busier.

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Tim Link: I will say from a personal standpoint, but it's been all good, happy, healthy.

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Tim Link: So business-wise, it's been real interesting.

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Tim Link: So you mentioned, you know, 2020, you're talking about the pandemic years and what's happened during that time and what happened after that.

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Tim Link: And we hear the stories and they're very true that during that time of COVID and lockdown, people were looking for things to do.

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Tim Link: And those that have always wanted to have an animal in their life or two, had that opportunity to bring them into their families.

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Tim Link: And it's real interesting just from a local standpoint, because the community I live in has about 80 homes.

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Tim Link: And most of them have sort of an Eastern Asian culture here.

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Tim Link: There's very few that aren't those type of families.

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Tim Link: And their tradition typically has been not to have animals in their homes.

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Tim Link: Well, that's all changed.

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Tim Link: We see so many people even today, even after the pandemic, where they've gotten dogs and multiple dogs and are walking up through the neighborhood and taking photos with them.

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Tim Link: So from that standpoint, I think it's really opened it up.

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Tim Link: And we hear the stories about, well, after the pandemic, people were starting to return their animals or release their animals, these type of things.

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Tim Link: From my standpoint and from my business at Wagging Tails, I haven't seen that at all.

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Tim Link: I've seen them become more, not only having animals into their lives now, but becoming more interested in what are they all about, what are they thinking.

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Tim Link: Doing reiki is big.

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Tim Link: It's really a growing part of what I do, because I've been a reiki master for almost 20 years now, and it's always been a part of what I do for the animals.

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Tim Link: But over the past, I'd say, two, three years, it's gotten more intense because reiki is a healing modality.

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Tim Link: So it works on a physical and emotional and a mental level to help your animals have a better quality of life and possibly increase their livelihood.

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Tim Link: So that part of it is grown.

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Tim Link: So I think overall, from the business standpoint and from working with the animals, it hasn't changed a whole lot.

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Tim Link: I think people are actually still realizing the value of having an animal in their life and the quality, and what the best for their animals.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Yeah, that's awesome.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: That's great news.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I'm happy to hear that because obviously, you hear so many things.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I think that really, if anything is impacting people being able to keep their pets, it's really the inflation rates and the cost of living going up.

00:13:18.903 --> 00:13:27.623
Isabel Alvarez Arata: More so than people, it's being said that people just didn't think about what life was going to look like after the pandemic.

00:13:27.623 --> 00:13:44.843
Isabel Alvarez Arata: They didn't plan, they didn't know, they weren't realistic, but I think we're always blaming pet parents when really it's just the fact that having a pet has always been a luxury and it's getting much more difficult to have pets, to care for pets, to provide the veterinary care that they need, etc.

00:13:44.843 --> 00:13:49.043
Isabel Alvarez Arata: It's making it so that only really the affluent can afford it.

00:13:49.043 --> 00:13:55.923
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I'm happy to hear that you're seeing more cultures embracing it, you're seeing better pet parenting happening.

00:13:55.923 --> 00:14:02.003
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I'm in Texas where I wish that was the case, but I feel like from our leadership down, that is not the case, unfortunately.

00:14:02.823 --> 00:14:05.403
Isabel Alvarez Arata: But that's a conversation for another time.

00:14:05.403 --> 00:14:08.023
Tim Link: Old conversation, we're talking about that.

00:14:08.023 --> 00:14:13.763
Tim Link: I've been working with the animals for almost 20 years on a professional level, and of course, always had animals in my life.

00:14:13.763 --> 00:14:22.143
Tim Link: I've seen the quality, everything from food to medication, to supplements, to even toys that we give our animals.

00:14:22.143 --> 00:14:25.603
Tim Link: The quality has gotten so much better over the years.

00:14:25.603 --> 00:14:39.643
Tim Link: The trend I have seen is, yes, we may not buy our dog or our cat or whatever animal we have, is many toys during the inflationary times or what we view as being hard times.

00:14:39.643 --> 00:14:45.303
Tim Link: But the quality of food and what we're doing for veterinarian care has actually gotten better.

00:14:45.503 --> 00:14:46.503
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Oh, yes.

00:14:46.503 --> 00:14:58.563
Tim Link: We're still spending the money on their animals and actually spending, my mother-in-law always says, when I leave this world and come back, I want to come back as one of your animals because they eat extremely well.

00:14:59.383 --> 00:15:02.003
Tim Link: They have the best live, the best cushions.

00:15:02.003 --> 00:15:02.883
Tim Link: I think that's very true.

00:15:02.883 --> 00:15:08.163
Tim Link: We spend a lot of, we don't hesitate to take care of our animals in most cases.

00:15:08.783 --> 00:15:09.623
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Exactly.

00:15:09.623 --> 00:15:19.483
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I will say that people are getting more education on what animals really need and as cute as that little toy might be, that might $25 might go better elsewhere.

00:15:19.703 --> 00:15:21.783
Isabel Alvarez Arata: It might be better used elsewhere.

00:15:21.783 --> 00:15:25.443
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I do think people are getting more educated, which is always fantastic.

00:15:25.443 --> 00:15:33.223
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Have you seen more interest in, you mentioned Reiki, but have you seen more interest in animal communication since the pandemic?

00:15:33.223 --> 00:15:39.363
Tim Link: Well, I think we've seen it grow exponentially, we'll say, over the years.

00:15:39.363 --> 00:15:42.003
Tim Link: As I mentioned, I've been doing this for almost 20 years.

00:15:42.003 --> 00:15:44.283
Tim Link: There are some that have been doing it longer than I have.

00:15:44.283 --> 00:15:58.143
Tim Link: I see a greater influx of people that are learning animal communication or choosing it as a professional or as a side gig, but part of what they're offering are for animals.

00:15:58.523 --> 00:16:11.243
Tim Link: I see the interest increasing and understanding in the training, in the workshops, in the material, in the articles, all those things are getting better and better and more prevalent so people can better understand it.

00:16:11.243 --> 00:16:26.103
Tim Link: I also think when we're talking about an acceptance level, when I first started, it was relatively new and people were still trying to figure out what it was all about, and is it real, and how does it work, and these types of things.

00:16:26.103 --> 00:16:27.063
Tim Link: Some didn't care.

00:16:27.263 --> 00:16:37.083
Tim Link: They were at their wits end and didn't know what to do, whether their dog, for instance, was having an emotional, physical or medical challenge or a missing animal.

00:16:37.083 --> 00:16:38.223
Tim Link: What do you do?

00:16:38.223 --> 00:16:46.783
Tim Link: Now I've seen it more turn full circle, perhaps because I've been doing this along and I've been blessed with being well-recognized and I failed.

00:16:46.783 --> 00:16:52.363
Tim Link: I've seen people immediately know what to do and don't hesitate to contact me if they've got an issue.

00:16:53.403 --> 00:16:55.283
Tim Link: It's been good from that standpoint.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Yeah, that's amazing.

00:16:56.223 --> 00:17:02.563
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I will always say that you were the first person I ever experienced animal communication with.

00:17:02.563 --> 00:17:08.703
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I found you through my then business partner, Beth, who found you because she had a cat go missing.

00:17:08.703 --> 00:17:12.623
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I was trying to be a supportive friend and business partner and went on that journey with her.

00:17:13.283 --> 00:17:22.303
Isabel Alvarez Arata: She told me about this guy that was recommended to her that lived in georgia and was going to give her a map of where her cat might be.

00:17:22.543 --> 00:17:27.563
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I was wide-eyed and confused and supportive nonetheless.

00:17:27.563 --> 00:17:34.163
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Then everything you said about where Simon was, was super on point and very accurate.

00:17:34.163 --> 00:17:37.823
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Thankfully, Simon came home not very shortly thereafter.

00:17:37.963 --> 00:17:42.423
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Then I had a very big decision to make with my Titan and my socks.

00:17:42.543 --> 00:17:43.803
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I'm sure you remember.

00:17:43.803 --> 00:17:44.283
Isabel Alvarez Arata: The link.

00:17:44.283 --> 00:17:53.703
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I was leaving the area and I was having to take my dogs with me, but the only challenge was that I had been sharing them with an ex.

00:17:53.703 --> 00:18:03.263
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I had primary custody, so I was legally allowed to take them, but there was a part of me that felt guilty because my ex was trying to make me leave them.

00:18:03.263 --> 00:18:05.383
Isabel Alvarez Arata: He really didn't want to say goodbye to his pets.

00:18:05.383 --> 00:18:06.543
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Who can blame him?

00:18:06.543 --> 00:18:16.963
Isabel Alvarez Arata: But I was moving with my now husband, Chris, to Louisiana, and I was so torn because I really wanted to do what was best for the pets and I couldn't ask them.

00:18:16.963 --> 00:18:20.923
Isabel Alvarez Arata: So Beth was like, you can ask them.

00:18:20.923 --> 00:18:22.743
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Tim can help you ask them.

00:18:22.743 --> 00:18:31.323
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And what was really special about that experience is that you have no idea what my predicament was, who I was, where I was.

00:18:31.323 --> 00:18:32.883
Isabel Alvarez Arata: You had no idea.

00:18:32.883 --> 00:18:36.983
Isabel Alvarez Arata: You knew the pets names and you had a picture of them that I emailed to you.

00:18:37.723 --> 00:18:42.163
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And the first thing you asked me was, who would you like to start with?

00:18:42.163 --> 00:18:44.103
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And I kind of was thinking about it.

00:18:44.103 --> 00:18:52.063
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And you said, you know, it seems like Titan is really, I guess, anxious to speak or he's like ready to speak.

00:18:52.063 --> 00:18:53.383
Isabel Alvarez Arata: So let's go with Titan.

00:18:53.383 --> 00:18:54.823
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And I was like, okay.

00:18:54.823 --> 00:18:57.123
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And he says, I want to go.

00:18:57.123 --> 00:19:01.823
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And you asked me, is he waiting for a dog walk or is he like, you know, going somewhere?

00:19:01.823 --> 00:19:06.083
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Like he keeps telling me, I want to go, I want to go, I want to go.

00:19:06.083 --> 00:19:08.223
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And it was 10 a.m.

00:19:08.223 --> 00:19:10.283
Isabel Alvarez Arata: He was not waiting for a dog walk.

00:19:10.283 --> 00:19:13.743
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And I knew immediately exactly what he wanted to do.

00:19:13.743 --> 00:19:15.943
Isabel Alvarez Arata: He wanted to go to Louisiana with me.

00:19:15.943 --> 00:19:18.883
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And that did not surprise me at all because he was my dog.

00:19:18.883 --> 00:19:20.503
Isabel Alvarez Arata: He was my soul dog.

00:19:20.503 --> 00:19:22.763
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I was his everything and he was mine.

00:19:22.763 --> 00:19:26.223
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And then it became, so what do socks want to do?

00:19:26.223 --> 00:19:29.823
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Because we could potentially separate them if need be.

00:19:29.823 --> 00:19:35.023
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And you clarified what I already believed, that socks just wanted to be a titan.

00:19:35.023 --> 00:19:37.203
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And wherever titan was, she was going to be happy.

00:19:37.203 --> 00:19:52.403
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And so that was one of the most wonderful moments of clarity of my life, because not only did I already feel that way, but it confirmed that the decision I was already making or had already made was the right one for everybody.

00:19:52.403 --> 00:19:56.063
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And thankfully, my ex still was in touch and I send him pictures and stuff.

00:19:56.063 --> 00:19:58.323
Isabel Alvarez Arata: So it turned out fantastic.

00:19:58.323 --> 00:20:10.543
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And I thank you for that because that was such a really hard decision to make, and one that I don't think would have otherwise been solved or would I have found a resolution.

00:20:10.543 --> 00:20:14.983
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I feel like there was no other way than through animal communication that I could have gotten that clarity.

00:20:14.983 --> 00:20:15.623
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Would you agree?

00:20:15.623 --> 00:20:17.003
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Is there something I missed?

00:20:17.003 --> 00:20:17.583
Tim Link: I appreciate it.

00:20:17.583 --> 00:20:18.563
Tim Link: First of all, I appreciate it, Dan.

00:20:18.563 --> 00:20:19.563
Tim Link: Love hearing this story.

00:20:19.563 --> 00:20:22.743
Tim Link: And I love hearing all the stories.

00:20:22.743 --> 00:20:38.283
Tim Link: I've been doing this for, as I said, almost 20 years now, and people still reference back to the first time that I've helped them out with this situation or helped them find an animal or reference back to an article or a book or something that I've written.

00:20:38.283 --> 00:20:45.363
Tim Link: Even today, a material that I put out 15, 16 years ago, people are re-referencing.

00:20:45.363 --> 00:20:52.483
Tim Link: And to me, that means a lot, because that means it stays with them and they understand it and they get it and it's helped them.

00:20:52.643 --> 00:20:54.603
Tim Link: And that's the biggest part of it.

00:20:54.603 --> 00:20:55.083
Tim Link: Yeah.

00:20:55.083 --> 00:20:59.743
Tim Link: But I think that's really where animal communication comes in to helping people out.

00:20:59.743 --> 00:21:29.823
Tim Link: No matter what the situation is, if you have an animal of any sort, if you're facing some sort of a physical, emotional or mental challenge with them, if you have challenges yourself, things you're going through, life experiences, routine changes, job changes, whatever the health changes, whatever it may be, you're looking for some clarity and you're looking for some ways to make sure you're doing the right things for your animals, and also to make sure that you're doing the right thing for yourself and for your family.

00:21:29.983 --> 00:21:35.763
Tim Link: So there's really no small thing that you can ask.

00:21:35.763 --> 00:21:37.803
Tim Link: There's no big problems, no small problems.

00:21:37.803 --> 00:21:49.603
Tim Link: They're all challenges we face, our animals face, and my role is to basically work as a conduit between you and the animal, and then come up with some suggestions and solutions that may be able to help the both of you out.

00:21:49.923 --> 00:21:56.543
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Yeah, absolutely, and you helped us again when we did move to Louisiana and we blended Chris' two dogs and my two dogs.

00:21:56.543 --> 00:22:04.563
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And you kind of told us that things that we already knew in the sense, but we didn't realize just how much they were impacting our pets.

00:22:04.563 --> 00:22:08.963
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I think that's another thing where people are like, I already know this, but like, are you really putting them into practice?

00:22:08.963 --> 00:22:13.463
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Maybe you need somebody to remind you, and that's something that happens every time that you and I speak.

00:22:13.463 --> 00:22:20.903
Isabel Alvarez Arata: You remind me of something that maybe I wasn't paying enough attention to, like, my energy when they're together.

00:22:20.903 --> 00:22:28.483
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Mind your energy, speak to them, tell them what's going to happen, what you need from them and why it's a good thing, right?

00:22:28.523 --> 00:22:29.303
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Yay!

00:22:30.543 --> 00:22:32.343
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Yes, exactly, speak to them.

00:22:32.343 --> 00:22:37.783
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And it's funny because I give that advice to my friends and followers now, and people look at me like, I'm crazy.

00:22:37.783 --> 00:22:44.783
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And I'm like, tell them what's going to happen, tell them what you need from them and tell them why it's a good thing, because that will help, that will help.

00:22:45.223 --> 00:22:50.343
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And people are sceptical until those kinds of things really work.

00:22:50.343 --> 00:22:54.303
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And I couldn't obviously be more grateful to you.

00:22:54.303 --> 00:23:03.303
Isabel Alvarez Arata: You also help pet parents making those really tough end-of-life decisions and even communicating after the pet has passed.

00:23:03.303 --> 00:23:05.763
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Can you briefly tell us how that works?

00:23:05.763 --> 00:23:17.743
Tim Link: Yeah, basically, you know, when you talked earlier about energy, our energy and we have a heart connection with our animals, and with that heart connection, they can feel our energy and we can feel theirs.

00:23:17.743 --> 00:23:30.663
Tim Link: The challenge is with humans, as you said, these are things we know, but we don't practice them, or we don't slow down enough to be able to connect with our animals and really feel that energy and feel what they're feeling.

00:23:30.663 --> 00:23:35.043
Tim Link: They're more in tune with us and they allow that to happen.

00:23:35.043 --> 00:23:39.883
Tim Link: And so when our energy shifts and when we have something going on, they're going to feel it.

00:23:39.883 --> 00:23:42.223
Tim Link: So they're great barometers from that standpoint.

00:23:42.983 --> 00:23:52.183
Tim Link: And so when that time comes when the animal is going to make their transition, we're trying to decide when that's going to be and how that's going to be and what do we want.

00:23:52.183 --> 00:23:56.923
Tim Link: And I always tell people that, first of all, let your animals know.

00:23:56.923 --> 00:24:05.883
Tim Link: Let your animals know that if you have a preference, then if you want to be there, for instance, while they make their transition, let them know that.

00:24:05.883 --> 00:24:14.863
Tim Link: Because animals will do everything they can to honor that and to stay within their body until that time comes when we can help them transition or be there for them.

00:24:14.863 --> 00:24:23.103
Tim Link: If you don't let them know, then they believe it's easier for them to make that transition when we're not here, when we're not around.

00:24:23.103 --> 00:24:28.343
Tim Link: You know, it's like the old Disney, old Yeller, you know, going off to die.

00:24:28.343 --> 00:24:37.863
Tim Link: Well, they may physically go off to make their transition, but more than likely, they'll wait for a portal where you go to work or you're on vacation or you're, you know, even step away from the house to make that.

00:24:38.303 --> 00:24:45.843
Tim Link: So first of all, let them know, let them know that you want and connect with them to feel what they want.

00:24:45.843 --> 00:24:58.003
Tim Link: And then after the transition, the connection is basically still an energetic connection that, you know, our animals become, they're made of pure energy and call it souls, essences, however you want to label it.

00:24:58.003 --> 00:25:02.263
Tim Link: They are attached via their body via a golden cord.

00:25:02.263 --> 00:25:15.143
Tim Link: So if you visualize a golden cord and that golden cord severs and they go out through their crown chakra, I don't get too off on this, but they go out through the crown chakra and they go up to what I call the heavenly space of love.

00:25:15.143 --> 00:25:19.443
Tim Link: Now that's often referred in animal talk as the rainbow bridge.

00:25:19.443 --> 00:25:21.563
Tim Link: Some will refer to it as heaven.

00:25:21.563 --> 00:25:23.363
Tim Link: Whatever it is, we all go back to source.

00:25:23.363 --> 00:25:27.763
Tim Link: We all select the body, we try our best to fulfill our purpose every single day.

00:25:27.763 --> 00:25:33.363
Tim Link: When that body no longer serves this or we've served our purpose, then we release and we go back up in the source.

00:25:34.683 --> 00:25:40.563
Tim Link: At that point, they're no longer tethered to that body, but they're still free to come around.

00:25:40.563 --> 00:25:53.103
Tim Link: They're really at that point becoming our furry feathered fin friends and angels that we can call upon and to be there for us and to feel them around us.

00:25:53.103 --> 00:26:04.703
Tim Link: The challenge with humans is we tend to doubt ourselves, we tend to beat ourselves up constantly, especially once an animal has passed, no matter how they've made their transition.

00:26:04.703 --> 00:26:06.963
Tim Link: We always wonder, did we do enough?

00:26:06.963 --> 00:26:07.963
Tim Link: Did we do too much?

00:26:07.963 --> 00:26:09.443
Tim Link: Did we keep them around too long?

00:26:09.443 --> 00:26:12.423
Tim Link: Did we release them too soon?

00:26:12.423 --> 00:26:17.303
Tim Link: Me being there during their transition, was that good for them or not?

00:26:17.303 --> 00:26:22.023
Tim Link: We're taking them to their veterinarian and helping them transition, is that a good thing?

00:26:22.363 --> 00:26:28.343
Tim Link: So we really have a lot of doubt and a lot of things we beat ourselves up over.

00:26:28.343 --> 00:26:34.223
Tim Link: Our animals want us, in virtually every case, they want to let us know that it's okay.

00:26:34.223 --> 00:26:35.143
Tim Link: They understood.

00:26:35.143 --> 00:26:41.763
Tim Link: They understand what it's all about and that that body wasn't going to serve them or they were done with their purpose and they're okay with it.

00:26:41.763 --> 00:26:52.623
Tim Link: All we have to do to be able to fill them around, see them around, hear them again, is to calm our mind, breathe, open our hearts and allow it to flow.

00:26:52.623 --> 00:26:59.263
Tim Link: And then when you do get those messages back from them in whatever fashion it is, trust what you're receiving.

00:26:59.843 --> 00:27:07.583
Tim Link: We often try to force it and try to think that we're going to see them in a certain way or feel them in a certain way or hear them again.

00:27:07.583 --> 00:27:13.203
Tim Link: But if you don't force it and allow it to flow, then that message will come through and they'll be around.

00:27:13.203 --> 00:27:13.743
Isabel Alvarez Arata: That's awesome.

00:27:14.443 --> 00:27:22.183
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I love that because I actually, it's a little past the anniversary of Titan's passing and I would love to check in with him.

00:27:22.183 --> 00:27:38.303
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I would love to, now that I'm far enough away from that experience, kind of see how he's doing and if there was anything he wants me to know about his life with me and his transition and what we did and did not do.

00:27:38.303 --> 00:27:47.423
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I don't have any guilt on that because I really was very pragmatic about making sure that he didn't suffer, so I'd rather he go too soon than too late.

00:27:47.423 --> 00:27:52.063
Isabel Alvarez Arata: But I don't know, I feel like even then, maybe it was too late from his perspective.

00:27:52.383 --> 00:27:56.403
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I don't think that our pets Monday morning quarterback us though.

00:27:56.403 --> 00:28:00.743
Isabel Alvarez Arata: They're not going to tell us anything like, I wish you had done X, Y, Z.

00:28:00.743 --> 00:28:01.383
Tim Link: Right.

00:28:01.383 --> 00:28:06.643
Tim Link: Well, for animals to come back and do that, they have to turn into humans.

00:28:06.643 --> 00:28:07.683
Tim Link: Now, I'm not talking about reincarnating.

00:28:11.803 --> 00:28:12.343
Tim Link: Touche.

00:28:12.343 --> 00:28:15.323
Tim Link: But these are all ego-driven things.

00:28:15.323 --> 00:28:18.163
Tim Link: All the things we feel that, did they do it out of spite?

00:28:18.163 --> 00:28:19.363
Tim Link: Are they angry at me?

00:28:21.183 --> 00:28:22.143
Tim Link: Do they hate me now?

00:28:22.143 --> 00:28:23.083
Tim Link: These types of things.

00:28:23.083 --> 00:28:31.143
Tim Link: These are all ego-driven energies, and only the humans revolve around that ego-driven energy.

00:28:31.143 --> 00:28:31.823
Tim Link: Animals don't.

00:28:32.003 --> 00:28:36.403
Tim Link: They're pure energy, and they understand things and accept things much better than we do.

00:28:36.403 --> 00:28:37.283
Tim Link: So they don't deal with us.

00:28:37.843 --> 00:28:41.783
Tim Link: You know, add negative energies and ego energies.

00:28:41.783 --> 00:28:52.043
Tim Link: You know, I always tell people all the time that when you're trying to say, teach and train and talk to your animals, stay away from negative energy words.

00:28:52.043 --> 00:28:57.703
Tim Link: And these are words like no, not, stop, don't, wit, you know, yell, scream, these things.

00:28:57.703 --> 00:29:00.443
Tim Link: You're projecting negative energy at them.

00:29:00.443 --> 00:29:06.203
Tim Link: And we know that, you know, if you yell at your dog, they may cower or leave the room.

00:29:06.423 --> 00:29:10.523
Tim Link: Two minutes later, they come back because they've deflected that negative energy.

00:29:10.523 --> 00:29:18.503
Tim Link: But if you constantly bombarded with them, then they get dis-ease within their body and that starts causing, you know, physical, emotional, mental challenges with them.

00:29:18.503 --> 00:29:32.783
Tim Link: So even when once they've made their transition out of their present body and they're in that space, that heavenly space of love, and they're able to come back and forth, they're not going to come back and tell you that you did something wrong, you know, because you did everything.

00:29:32.943 --> 00:29:40.843
Tim Link: You know, if you love them and you did to respect them, then they're going to let you know that, hey, everything's well, everything's okay.

00:29:40.843 --> 00:29:41.923
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Yeah.

00:29:41.923 --> 00:29:49.543
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And then they still love us and that no matter what we do, their love for us is always unconditional to a fault, honestly, many of the time.

00:29:49.543 --> 00:29:50.983
Isabel Alvarez Arata: So I need to take a break here.

00:29:50.983 --> 00:30:01.283
Isabel Alvarez Arata: But speaking of negative energy, we're going to come back and speak about social media animal communicators and what pet parents might be falling for, that maybe they shouldn't be.

00:30:01.283 --> 00:30:02.323
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And that's just my opinion.

00:30:02.403 --> 00:30:04.603
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I'm not putting words in Tim's mouth just yet.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: All right, don't go anywhere.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Welcome back to Covered In Pet Hair.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I'm your host, Isabel Alvarez Arata, and today I'm having a great conversation about animal communication and our pets, how much they love us and how much we love them with Tim Link, who is the CEO of Wagging Tails.

00:32:02.140 --> 00:32:06.900
Isabel Alvarez Arata: He's a world-renowned animal communicator, a world-renowned reiki master.

00:32:06.900 --> 00:32:11.160
Isabel Alvarez Arata: He is the host of the Animal Rights Podcast on Pet Life Radio.

00:32:11.160 --> 00:32:19.640
Isabel Alvarez Arata: He is the go-to guy when a pet is lost and somebody wants to use some other layer of support to find their pet, even farm animals.

00:32:19.640 --> 00:32:23.480
Isabel Alvarez Arata: As far as I remember, that donkey was gone when we interviewed last time.

00:32:23.480 --> 00:32:25.640
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Did that donkey ever come home, Tim?

00:32:25.640 --> 00:32:27.020
Tim Link: We did get the donkey back.

00:32:27.020 --> 00:32:33.480
Tim Link: We did get the donkey back and, you know, we always think of animals as our domesticated animals.

00:32:33.660 --> 00:32:43.140
Tim Link: And even with that nowadays, you know, it's not necessarily your dog or your cat or your horse even, especially with our young children and young adults.

00:32:43.320 --> 00:32:48.920
Tim Link: They prefer, you know, spiders and snakes and bearded dragons and all these exotics.

00:32:48.920 --> 00:32:51.520
Tim Link: So we have to be able to communicate with them as well.

00:32:51.520 --> 00:32:56.300
Tim Link: And of course, I work with wildlife, sanctuary, zoos, farms, aquariums, these types of things.

00:32:56.300 --> 00:32:57.400
Isabel Alvarez Arata: So cool.

00:32:57.400 --> 00:33:01.160
Tim Link: So yes, we got the donkey back and let's see what else we've gotten back.

00:33:01.160 --> 00:33:02.080
Tim Link: This is just off the top of my head.

00:33:02.080 --> 00:33:04.340
Tim Link: I remember a lost monkey.

00:33:04.340 --> 00:33:08.680
Tim Link: We got a monkey back, which was really cool.

00:33:08.680 --> 00:33:18.520
Tim Link: Yeah, several horses have gotten loose and one that was stolen and we actually tracked it down and reunited it with its owner, which is always cool too.

00:33:18.520 --> 00:33:18.740
Tim Link: Yeah.

00:33:18.740 --> 00:33:19.700
Tim Link: But I've got calls.

00:33:20.420 --> 00:33:33.380
Tim Link: Every time I think I've covered about every animal you could think of, somebody contacts me for something else because I can recall pet squirrels and pet raccoons and pet possums and I have to like, okay, let's check this out.

00:33:33.380 --> 00:33:33.920
Tim Link: Is this real?

00:33:33.920 --> 00:33:35.180
Tim Link: So am I pulling my leg again?

00:33:35.280 --> 00:33:36.020
Tim Link: What's going on?

00:33:36.020 --> 00:33:42.620
Tim Link: No, they had one since they raised it from a small baby and raised it up and it's their pet.

00:33:42.620 --> 00:33:46.080
Tim Link: Now, it's gone missing or it's in a place stuck somewhere.

00:33:46.080 --> 00:33:49.780
Tim Link: One I remember was stuck in a shed and it couldn't get out.

00:33:49.780 --> 00:33:53.020
Tim Link: There are no openings and so we got it out of the shed.

00:33:53.020 --> 00:34:01.700
Tim Link: But yeah, everything you could think of, not everything, but virtually everything you could think of, I've worked with and they all communicate in the same fashion.

00:34:01.700 --> 00:34:07.980
Tim Link: So we open ourselves up to it, open our hearts and open up our minds to it and accept what they're willing to share with us.

00:34:07.980 --> 00:34:10.640
Tim Link: Yeah, we can help.

00:34:10.640 --> 00:34:12.800
Isabel Alvarez Arata: You get words or pictures or both?

00:34:12.800 --> 00:34:14.180
Tim Link: Yeah, I get a little bit of everything.

00:34:14.180 --> 00:34:17.180
Tim Link: It's whatever the animal wants to share with me.

00:34:17.180 --> 00:34:18.960
Tim Link: They're just like humans.

00:34:18.960 --> 00:34:25.200
Tim Link: Some like me are very talkative and roll my hands everywhere and some are more subdued.

00:34:25.200 --> 00:34:32.060
Tim Link: Some will communicate with me in a fashion they feel that me as a mere human could possibly understand what they're talking about.

00:34:34.060 --> 00:34:40.800
Tim Link: Yeah, those early days, there was a couple of words, maybe a visualization, a mind's eye, a picture of what's around them.

00:34:40.800 --> 00:34:48.700
Tim Link: Now it's gotten to the point where it's words, colors, pictures, emotions, smells, tastes.

00:34:48.700 --> 00:34:49.100
Tim Link: Wow.

00:34:49.620 --> 00:34:52.460
Tim Link: Yeah, the taste ones are always fun.

00:34:53.520 --> 00:34:59.520
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I remember you telling me that socks was gassy, that you felt bloated.

00:34:59.880 --> 00:35:06.540
Isabel Alvarez Arata: That was so interesting because we started giving her slippery elm from your recommendation.

00:35:06.540 --> 00:35:08.780
Isabel Alvarez Arata: It's the first time I've even heard of slippery elm.

00:35:08.780 --> 00:35:14.900
Isabel Alvarez Arata: This was ages ago, and all of a sudden, she had more pep in her step, and I was like, Tim, really?

00:35:14.900 --> 00:35:20.140
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I'm sorry that she made you feel bloated and uncomfortable, but thank you for letting us know about that.

00:35:20.140 --> 00:35:21.140
Tim Link: Yeah, exactly.

00:35:21.140 --> 00:35:22.120
Tim Link: Not a problem.

00:35:22.120 --> 00:35:24.440
Tim Link: Well, that's the interesting thing about it.

00:35:24.440 --> 00:35:44.460
Tim Link: When I first started doing this, I remember the late Judy Byers was my mentor in the early days, and when I first uncovered this ability to be able to connect with the animals at this deep level, I contacted Judy right away and said, Judy, if it's going to be like this, I don't want to get it out of me.

00:35:46.160 --> 00:36:00.180
Tim Link: She said, oh, hon, it doesn't work that way, but I can teach you how to turn it on and turn it off, and how not to fill the emotions and fill the things that they're filling when you need to, and then how do you clear yourself, and how do you release that afterwards?

00:36:01.380 --> 00:36:07.160
Tim Link: Needless to say, I haven't carried around all that gas all these years, so we're happy about that.

00:36:07.160 --> 00:36:09.340
Isabel Alvarez Arata: >Hallelujah, poor Kim.

00:36:11.680 --> 00:36:12.400
Isabel Alvarez Arata: All right.

00:36:12.400 --> 00:36:16.200
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Well, I obviously want to play another game with you because that's just how I do.

00:36:16.440 --> 00:36:25.820
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I remember at some point in one of our many conversations, you said that somebody maybe made you feel like they thought you were a charlatan when you first started.

00:36:25.820 --> 00:36:28.820
Tim Link: Yeah, one of my good friends, one of my best friends now.

00:36:28.820 --> 00:36:29.340
Tim Link: Yeah.

00:36:29.340 --> 00:36:29.720
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Yeah.

00:36:30.420 --> 00:36:36.720
Isabel Alvarez Arata: So I remember you saying that and I remember being like, I'm sure this happens a lot because there's so many skeptics out there.

00:36:36.720 --> 00:36:42.560
Isabel Alvarez Arata: But then there are also the other side, there's the other side of the coin where people are gullible.

00:36:42.560 --> 00:36:47.160
Isabel Alvarez Arata: So I'm going to invite you to play a game I called Charlotte TikTok.

00:36:47.160 --> 00:36:59.480
Isabel Alvarez Arata: So all the charlatans or not on TikToks are out there reading pets, they're doing lives and just telling people to comment.

00:36:59.480 --> 00:37:08.640
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Because of the experience I've had working with you, I feel like I'm not convinced that that is possible, doable.

00:37:08.640 --> 00:37:13.820
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Maybe they're just extra super duper special, maybe their gift shows up in a different way.

00:37:14.220 --> 00:37:17.880
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I don't, I'm not the expert in this field, you are.

00:37:17.880 --> 00:37:21.520
Isabel Alvarez Arata: So I'm gonna invite you to play this game again, it's called Charlotte TikTok.

00:37:21.520 --> 00:37:26.700
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And I want to know if any of this has legs.

00:37:26.700 --> 00:37:32.220
Isabel Alvarez Arata: So the first question I have for you Tim is, can someone really read a pet via social media?

00:37:32.220 --> 00:37:35.300
Tim Link: Well, yeah, I believe they can, you know.

00:37:35.300 --> 00:37:43.080
Tim Link: And I think one of the things I'm gonna throw out there, maybe this is just me or from doing this for so long, when people contact me and say, can you do a reading?

00:37:43.420 --> 00:37:49.140
Tim Link: You know, that word, the word read, you know, that is one of those negative connotation words.

00:37:49.140 --> 00:37:54.380
Tim Link: You know, I don't have any problem with it, but it sends out, you're already questioning it right away.

00:37:54.380 --> 00:37:55.660
Tim Link: So can you communicate?

00:37:55.660 --> 00:37:56.520
Tim Link: Can you connect?

00:37:56.520 --> 00:38:00.500
Tim Link: And you actually have a conversation with my animal.

00:38:00.500 --> 00:38:11.680
Tim Link: And I know from my standpoint, you know, there's been plenty of times where I've had communications via video, via radio shows, via pictures, obviously is what I do mostly.

00:38:12.840 --> 00:38:14.780
Tim Link: So I think they can.

00:38:14.780 --> 00:38:16.740
Tim Link: And you can definitely do live readings.

00:38:16.740 --> 00:38:20.120
Tim Link: I've done most of my live readings in person.

00:38:20.120 --> 00:38:24.580
Tim Link: So I haven't done a TikTok video reading, but I don't see why you can't.

00:38:24.580 --> 00:38:26.980
Tim Link: Now, how they go about doing it?

00:38:26.980 --> 00:38:27.780
Tim Link: You know, I don't know.

00:38:28.200 --> 00:38:31.440
Tim Link: I will say, maybe I'm just an old soul.

00:38:31.440 --> 00:38:36.420
Tim Link: Maybe I just know better to not delve into social media too much.

00:38:36.420 --> 00:38:37.540
Tim Link: I don't know.

00:38:37.540 --> 00:38:41.800
Tim Link: But I can't, I don't know if I've ever seen a TikTok singing-dancing animal communicator.

00:38:41.800 --> 00:38:44.040
Tim Link: I don't know about that one.

00:38:44.040 --> 00:38:45.640
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I haven't either.

00:38:45.640 --> 00:38:56.660
Isabel Alvarez Arata: The only thing I've ever seen is on Instagram, I have seen people comment the name of the pet and whether they're alive or at the Rainbow Bridge.

00:38:56.660 --> 00:39:01.160
Isabel Alvarez Arata: That is all that these animal communicators have requested.

00:39:01.160 --> 00:39:04.440
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I know these animal communicators, so I know that they're legit.

00:39:04.440 --> 00:39:15.540
Isabel Alvarez Arata: But on TikTok, it's just so fast, that I don't know that there's any way that somebody could even tap into that pet just based on a name or something.

00:39:15.800 --> 00:39:18.000
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Maybe I'm the skeptic here, I don't know.

00:39:18.000 --> 00:39:28.660
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Do you worry that people are capitalizing on something that is legit, but just being like, oh, I just have to pretend that Fluffy has gas and now I'm going to make $5 off that?

00:39:28.660 --> 00:39:31.560
Isabel Alvarez Arata: If I do enough of them, I'll make $2,000 today or what?

00:39:31.800 --> 00:39:33.580
Tim Link: I will say it's the great America way.

00:39:34.000 --> 00:39:36.540
Tim Link: We're always here to make the buck in these things.

00:39:36.540 --> 00:39:37.880
Tim Link: No, not for me though.

00:39:37.880 --> 00:39:39.780
Tim Link: I mean, will there be scams?

00:39:39.780 --> 00:39:40.860
Tim Link: Will there be charlatans?

00:39:40.860 --> 00:39:42.980
Tim Link: Will there be people that say they have a gift?

00:39:42.980 --> 00:39:49.400
Tim Link: Will there be people that try to capitalize on it in a way that they perhaps shouldn't?

00:39:49.400 --> 00:39:50.400
Tim Link: Absolutely.

00:39:50.560 --> 00:39:54.600
Tim Link: On the flip side, are they capitalizing in a way that is new?

00:39:54.600 --> 00:39:55.560
Tim Link: Something I don't do.

00:39:55.560 --> 00:39:57.220
Tim Link: Maybe I'm missing the boat.

00:39:59.000 --> 00:40:10.700
Tim Link: Maybe I've got meditation albums, recordings, digital downloads, whatever the kids call it nowadays, that you can purchase via TikTok and use it as your background music.

00:40:10.700 --> 00:40:24.180
Tim Link: So if you want to be the animal communicator that uses my meditation music, instead of using Taylor Swift or whoever is hip nowadays, I guess it's her, then yeah, you can do this.

00:40:24.180 --> 00:40:28.120
Tim Link: I guess from that standpoint, my toe is in the TikTok.

00:40:28.120 --> 00:40:33.040
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Yeah, you're like, all right, let's partner out, let's sell my meditation.

00:40:33.040 --> 00:40:35.840
Isabel Alvarez Arata: How can pet parents protect themselves for real though?

00:40:35.840 --> 00:40:37.340
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Because it's not just on TikTok.

00:40:37.540 --> 00:40:40.900
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Anybody can set up a website that says, I'm an animal communicator.

00:40:40.900 --> 00:40:48.680
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I'm surprised that there haven't been any, send me $100 and we'll read tomorrow or read tomorrow.

00:40:48.920 --> 00:40:51.100
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And then, you know, nobody shows up.

00:40:51.100 --> 00:40:55.320
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I haven't heard of any scams like that, but I'm sure they're out there and I'm sure more to come.

00:40:55.320 --> 00:41:03.400
Isabel Alvarez Arata: So how can pet parents who obviously, like you said, are vulnerable when they're seeking out in many cases, these types of services, how can they protect themselves?

00:41:03.400 --> 00:41:06.740
Tim Link: Yeah, I think that my suggestions are always do your research.

00:41:06.740 --> 00:41:07.900
Tim Link: It's with anything else in life.

00:41:07.900 --> 00:41:10.440
Tim Link: You've got to do your research, find out who's on there.

00:41:10.440 --> 00:41:24.740
Tim Link: So go on the internet, type in the name of the communicator, read some of their articles, watch some of their videos, see if they've been on television shows and radio shows, these types of things, and see how long they've been doing this.

00:41:24.740 --> 00:41:27.680
Tim Link: See what other animal communicators say about them.

00:41:27.680 --> 00:41:39.680
Tim Link: I probably, there's a good number, probably 30, 40 different animal communicators out there that refer all their lost animal cases to me, because that's what I'm best known for and I've been doing it for so long.

00:41:39.680 --> 00:41:45.220
Tim Link: And it's a tough and challenging part of the business, but I've had a great deal of success at it.

00:41:45.460 --> 00:41:46.500
Tim Link: So you look for those things.

00:41:46.500 --> 00:41:48.640
Tim Link: So you do your research.

00:41:48.640 --> 00:41:52.440
Tim Link: If you're into videos, you can go to YouTube and check out some of the videos.

00:41:52.640 --> 00:41:55.120
Tim Link: I'm all over that place on YouTube.

00:41:55.120 --> 00:42:00.320
Tim Link: And these are actually interviews that I've been on, like this one.

00:42:00.320 --> 00:42:02.460
Tim Link: Not necessarily anything I've posted out there.

00:42:02.460 --> 00:42:06.820
Tim Link: I think there may be one that just tells people about what animal communication is about.

00:42:06.820 --> 00:42:10.660
Tim Link: And then at the end of the day, after you've done all your research, you have to see what resonates with you.

00:42:11.300 --> 00:42:18.500
Tim Link: There's usually one, you'll find someone that's like, wow, that hit home.

00:42:18.500 --> 00:42:20.720
Tim Link: How you present yourself in that video is amazing.

00:42:20.720 --> 00:42:21.760
Tim Link: I can see that you're honest.

00:42:21.760 --> 00:42:31.420
Tim Link: I see your background, what you've done over the years, and how you can help people, how many media outlets that have written articles about you and the success you've had.

00:42:31.420 --> 00:42:32.660
Tim Link: And then go from there.

00:42:32.660 --> 00:42:40.220
Tim Link: And I think the key thing is, you know, we do this to help the animals out and help their human companions out, but it is a business.

00:42:40.880 --> 00:42:44.940
Tim Link: And so like with any business, you've got to really do your research before you delve into it.

00:42:44.940 --> 00:42:51.720
Tim Link: And if you're looking for a cheap, quick, easy way, then it's my suggestion is look for something else.

00:42:51.720 --> 00:42:53.440
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Yeah, just go dance and get clicked.

00:42:53.440 --> 00:42:54.620
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Leave the pets out of it.

00:42:54.620 --> 00:42:56.580
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Is there any kind of organization?

00:42:56.580 --> 00:43:04.860
Isabel Alvarez Arata: You know, in the pet sitting industry, the dog training industry, we have organizations that kind of set standards for the services that we provide.

00:43:04.860 --> 00:43:07.380
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Does that exist in animal communication?

00:43:07.380 --> 00:43:08.760
Tim Link: Yeah, it's gotten better over the years.

00:43:08.760 --> 00:43:09.380
Tim Link: It really has.

00:43:09.500 --> 00:43:14.060
Tim Link: I mean, in the early days, animaltalk.net is one location you can go to.

00:43:14.060 --> 00:43:21.900
Tim Link: And a lot of the animal communicators that have been doing this for a while and are successful are on animaltalk.net.

00:43:21.920 --> 00:43:23.980
Tim Link: One, it's come up fairly recently.

00:43:23.980 --> 00:43:24.960
Tim Link: That seems to be doing well.

00:43:25.500 --> 00:43:27.360
Tim Link: That I'm on.

00:43:27.360 --> 00:43:29.400
Tim Link: I've been asked to be on is Petworks.

00:43:29.400 --> 00:43:31.600
Tim Link: Petworks is another one you can do some research.

00:43:31.600 --> 00:43:39.660
Tim Link: And they have communicators, healers, everything from reiki masters to dog training.

00:43:39.660 --> 00:43:41.700
Tim Link: They get a whole host of people there.

00:43:41.700 --> 00:43:43.340
Tim Link: So I would say that would be it.

00:43:43.340 --> 00:43:57.420
Tim Link: And then when you're talking about healing modalities and reiki, I'm a member of the International Reiki Association and Cera, which does a lot of work with rescue animals and helping them heal through reiki.

00:43:57.420 --> 00:44:01.840
Tim Link: So there are professional organizations and that's where you do your search as well.

00:44:01.840 --> 00:44:12.520
Tim Link: But I think if you have a communicator, if you know the name of the communicator and or their business and you do go to your internet search engine and pull it up, you're going to find a plethora of things.

00:44:12.560 --> 00:44:21.700
Tim Link: You're going to know the ones that have been out there doing it for a while and really treat this as a professional and honest type of situation.

00:44:21.700 --> 00:44:22.360
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Absolutely.

00:44:22.360 --> 00:44:27.840
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And I will say you're a lot, probably because I know you're more pragmatic than I am.

00:44:27.840 --> 00:44:35.260
Isabel Alvarez Arata: But when I'm in distress, I feel like I could fall prey to these things just because of the impulsivity of it, right?

00:44:35.260 --> 00:44:40.080
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Like I need some answers right now and I'll take whatever answer I get.

00:44:40.080 --> 00:44:49.760
Isabel Alvarez Arata: But the problem with that is that that answer could really hurt you and it could really break your heart and it could be exactly the opposite of what you need to hear at the moment.

00:44:49.760 --> 00:45:13.380
Isabel Alvarez Arata: So if nothing else, not because of your money, but because of your heart and your connection with your pet, be picky, be choosy, really take your time and do your research like Tim said, because I would hate to hear that somebody has a terrible experience with an animal communicator and beats up themselves up for the rest of their life because of decisions that they made based on that reading.

00:45:13.380 --> 00:45:17.280
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I'm using air quotes on the reading.

00:45:17.280 --> 00:45:18.560
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Exactly.

00:45:18.560 --> 00:45:30.020
Isabel Alvarez Arata: So my last question for you is, you mentioned the meditations and I have taken your courses where you teach people how to communicate with their animals.

00:45:30.020 --> 00:45:36.640
Isabel Alvarez Arata: If somebody is interested in doing that, where they get rid of the middle man, no offense, middle man, but they want to learn how to do it themselves.

00:45:36.640 --> 00:45:39.680
Isabel Alvarez Arata: This is a skill that they suspect they might be good at.

00:45:39.680 --> 00:45:42.800
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And they want to kind of expand on that.

00:45:42.800 --> 00:45:44.200
Isabel Alvarez Arata: What would you recommend?

00:45:44.200 --> 00:45:45.100
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Where do they start?

00:45:45.100 --> 00:45:48.560
Tim Link: Well, the resources I mentioned before is a good way to start.

00:45:48.560 --> 00:45:57.700
Tim Link: And obviously, most of the animal communicators like myself teach workshops or have audio workshops or video workshops available that you can purchase.

00:45:57.700 --> 00:46:06.940
Tim Link: I have a four-part audio workshop that includes meditations and allows you to download it and listen to it at home and practice it.

00:46:06.940 --> 00:46:11.080
Tim Link: And go at your own pace until you feel really comfortable.

00:46:11.200 --> 00:46:14.780
Tim Link: And I think it's important for that, from that standpoint also.

00:46:14.780 --> 00:46:22.280
Tim Link: When I've taught workshops in the past, there have been people that have attended that all they were interested in is getting a little certificate of completion.

00:46:22.280 --> 00:46:24.280
Tim Link: And it's just a certificate of completion.

00:46:24.280 --> 00:46:29.920
Tim Link: I'm not able at that point to say, you're a certified animal communicator, but they use EZRT.

00:46:29.920 --> 00:46:45.180
Tim Link: And even with me, when I first sort of uncovered the gift, I had to work with it for about three years, working with my own animals, friends' animals, part of our church ministry, Animal Healing Ministry, part of the Humane Society and being a president of Humane Society.

00:46:45.180 --> 00:46:54.780
Tim Link: So I got to the point where I believed everything I was receiving, knew how to do it, how to connect, and how to be able to communicate with the animals and get that message out there.

00:46:54.780 --> 00:46:56.980
Tim Link: So even with the workshops, you can't do it overnight.

00:46:57.560 --> 00:47:01.040
Tim Link: But start with the workshops, read the material, do these things.

00:47:01.040 --> 00:47:03.740
Tim Link: Meditation is a big part of it.

00:47:05.180 --> 00:47:18.520
Tim Link: When I talk about meditation, the meditation audios that I have out, relax the mind and body, meditation and the guided meditation communicating with animals, they're guided meditations.

00:47:18.520 --> 00:47:26.180
Tim Link: So I have the music and I have my voice, and I'm guiding you through the process of how to open, clear and receive what's out there.

00:47:26.660 --> 00:47:31.980
Tim Link: But guided meditations may or may not be the route you want to go.

00:47:31.980 --> 00:47:37.620
Tim Link: I think the misconception on meditation is people think it has to be something formal.

00:47:37.800 --> 00:47:44.600
Tim Link: You have to do chants and mantras, and you've got to sit in the lotus position, and that's not the case.

00:47:44.800 --> 00:47:53.260
Tim Link: I've had the pleasure of sitting with Tibetan monks and going through a full meditation with them, and I will say they can go for hours.

00:47:53.260 --> 00:47:57.060
Tim Link: I lasted half an hour and then realized my butt was going numb inside it.

00:47:57.060 --> 00:48:01.380
Tim Link: That's probably not the meditation for me, but thanks for the honor of sitting with you.

00:48:01.380 --> 00:48:13.500
Tim Link: But meditation is anything that allows your conscious mind to shut off and allows your subconscious to open up and allows things to flow through the animals to communicate, your great epiphanies, the messages you receive.

00:48:13.500 --> 00:48:17.060
Tim Link: This could be hiking, which I know you and your family like doing.

00:48:17.220 --> 00:48:21.840
Tim Link: Going on a hike clears your mind and allows that subconscious to open up.

00:48:21.840 --> 00:48:32.460
Tim Link: Gardening, listening to music, taking those walks in nature, anything that allows you to shut it off for a while and receive everything else positive that's coming through.

00:48:32.460 --> 00:48:45.920
Tim Link: The guided meditations I have are important because if you're going to communicate with the animals in a real deep level, you have to clear your mind, open your heart, breathe, and allow things to flow through and meditation is a great way to do that.

00:48:45.920 --> 00:48:49.700
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Where can we get these meditations and pretty much anything?

00:48:49.820 --> 00:48:57.520
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Like I am lucky to have a book that you signed for me and for Titan and Socks a very long time ago.

00:48:57.520 --> 00:49:01.160
Isabel Alvarez Arata: But where can people learn more about everything that you offer?

00:49:01.160 --> 00:49:03.420
Isabel Alvarez Arata: You have so many things in the time that you've been doing this.

00:49:03.420 --> 00:49:06.740
Isabel Alvarez Arata: You've amassed such a great collection of resources.

00:49:06.740 --> 00:49:07.560
Tim Link: Thank you.

00:49:07.560 --> 00:49:10.080
Tim Link: Well, you can go to my website, which is waggingtails.com.

00:49:11.260 --> 00:49:12.340
Tim Link: So tales.com.

00:49:13.000 --> 00:49:16.180
Tim Link: The tails, they tail, not the tails, they wag, as you said.

00:49:16.180 --> 00:49:17.640
Tim Link: But you can find out all the information.

00:49:17.640 --> 00:49:21.820
Tim Link: I've got the books and the audio books and everything on there.

00:49:21.820 --> 00:49:28.160
Tim Link: We can order them, we can get them, and all the articles and all the media stuff that I've appeared on.

00:49:28.160 --> 00:49:34.880
Tim Link: We have had the Relax the Mining and Body Meditation and the Guided Meditation Communicating with Animals.

00:49:34.880 --> 00:49:45.440
Tim Link: It's just been recently re-released, and now it's available at about 40 distribution points out there that you can purchase and download or listen to.

00:49:45.440 --> 00:49:54.580
Tim Link: So places like Spotify and Napster, Pandora, you can listen to it on TikTok, like I mentioned, YouTube Music.

00:49:54.580 --> 00:49:55.520
Tim Link: So it's out there.

00:49:56.660 --> 00:49:59.600
Tim Link: Yeah, favorite digital download.

00:49:59.600 --> 00:50:02.100
Tim Link: The albums are available, so that's cool.

00:50:02.100 --> 00:50:02.600
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Perfect.

00:50:02.600 --> 00:50:03.540
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I'm going to do that.

00:50:03.540 --> 00:50:05.440
Isabel Alvarez Arata: You know what I was thinking when you were talking about walking?

00:50:05.440 --> 00:50:17.320
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I was like, maybe I need to put on your meditation and try to connect with Kira while we walk together and see if that makes her more comfortable with communication because she's always been the one that was like, I'm good.

00:50:17.320 --> 00:50:18.440
Isabel Alvarez Arata: It's all good.

00:50:18.440 --> 00:50:23.080
Tim Link: It will definitely calm you down and it will open you up and you'll be amazed at what you receive.

00:50:23.080 --> 00:50:25.120
Tim Link: So that's a good way to go about doing it.

00:50:25.120 --> 00:50:27.980
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Yeah, that's a really good resource.

00:50:27.980 --> 00:50:28.840
Tim Link: Meditations are out there.

00:50:28.880 --> 00:50:30.840
Tim Link: And then you talk about the Wagging Tails.

00:50:30.840 --> 00:50:36.200
Tim Link: The book is in print version still available at find book stores and online.

00:50:36.200 --> 00:50:37.980
Tim Link: E-book is available as well.

00:50:37.980 --> 00:50:41.520
Tim Link: And then we re-released once again, the audio book.

00:50:41.520 --> 00:50:47.200
Tim Link: And so the audio book is available at almost 40 different distribution points there as well.

00:50:47.200 --> 00:50:53.300
Tim Link: So you can get it at places like Spotify, Audible of course is available, audiobooks.com.

00:50:54.840 --> 00:50:56.400
Tim Link: Some people like Chirp.

00:50:56.400 --> 00:51:00.220
Tim Link: A lot of people go to their library to download these audiobooks.

00:51:00.220 --> 00:51:02.820
Tim Link: And so it's available at most libraries nowadays.

00:51:02.820 --> 00:51:04.680
Tim Link: So it's a good way.

00:51:04.680 --> 00:51:11.340
Tim Link: The Wagging Tales book is stories, fun, interesting stories of when I first started doing this.

00:51:11.340 --> 00:51:13.220
Tim Link: Lots happened and changed since then.

00:51:13.220 --> 00:51:13.980
Tim Link: But it's real interesting.

00:51:13.980 --> 00:51:21.180
Tim Link: I had a client today that contacted me and said, the reason I'm contacting you, I've lost a cat that I need your help with.

00:51:21.580 --> 00:51:42.620
Tim Link: But what led me to you was I got your audio book, Wagging Tales, and I heard the story about Madison in the Bronx, which Madison was one of the first, if it was the actually first animal that I helped find, who was a cat who jumped out of the fourth story building of an apartment building in the Bronx, New York and went on a little journey.

00:51:42.620 --> 00:51:46.560
Tim Link: We got Madison back to the place where her mom would be waiting.

00:51:46.560 --> 00:51:49.800
Tim Link: I told her mom where to wait and what time to wait.

00:51:50.820 --> 00:51:51.480
Tim Link: Very best.

00:51:51.480 --> 00:51:56.000
Tim Link: It can't always happen this way, but we'll do our very best to have Madison come back.

00:51:56.000 --> 00:52:02.180
Tim Link: Lo and behold, Madison comes strolling back after three weeks of being out on a little exploration.

00:52:02.360 --> 00:52:03.700
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Oh my goodness.

00:52:03.700 --> 00:52:05.600
Tim Link: Yeah, really cool.

00:52:05.600 --> 00:52:07.500
Tim Link: The audio book is out there on that.

00:52:07.500 --> 00:52:11.380
Tim Link: It's based on the book that was released, you know, gosh, in 2009.

00:52:11.380 --> 00:52:13.420
Tim Link: So it's really exciting.

00:52:14.400 --> 00:52:16.780
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I met you about 2015 is when I met you.

00:52:16.780 --> 00:52:19.920
Isabel Alvarez Arata: 2014, 2015 is when I met you.

00:52:19.920 --> 00:52:21.220
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And I remember.

00:52:21.220 --> 00:52:30.960
Tim Link: Yeah, it's talking about dogs and cats book, which is another one that's out there on print in an e-book and soon to be in audiobook forms that we're working on as well.

00:52:30.960 --> 00:52:33.220
Tim Link: So yeah, keep track of me, what's going on.

00:52:33.220 --> 00:52:36.400
Tim Link: You can always go to the WaggingTel site on Facebook.

00:52:36.400 --> 00:52:49.200
Tim Link: And that's where I put most of my media, my TV and radio appearances, and then anything we do with the new releases of new material as well as re-releases of previous material we'll release at it and announce it at those locations.

00:52:49.200 --> 00:52:50.660
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And do you read the books?

00:52:50.660 --> 00:52:51.740
Tim Link: Do I read the books?

00:52:51.740 --> 00:52:52.560
Tim Link: My old books?

00:52:52.560 --> 00:52:54.740
Isabel Alvarez Arata: The audiobook, it's your voice?

00:52:54.740 --> 00:52:56.020
Tim Link: I am the narrator.

00:52:56.300 --> 00:53:01.600
Tim Link: What more smooth sounds to hear than my voice in the narration?

00:53:01.600 --> 00:53:04.100
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Okay, I'm going to have to download them just to listen.

00:53:04.100 --> 00:53:10.400
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I can't wait because I feel like that would be so much better than what the, you know, it's your personal stories.

00:53:10.400 --> 00:53:17.680
Isabel Alvarez Arata: So I feel like that's always great when I could hear the narrator be the actual person who experienced what I'm listening to.

00:53:17.680 --> 00:53:18.000
Tim Link: Thank you.

00:53:18.000 --> 00:53:19.700
Tim Link: Well, I'm a talker, as you know.

00:53:19.700 --> 00:53:23.460
Tim Link: And, you know, of course, I've hosted the host of radio shows in the past.

00:53:23.460 --> 00:53:29.060
Tim Link: I've had syndicated radio shows and then the Animal Rights Show has been on for, good God, 12, 13 years now.

00:53:29.060 --> 00:53:31.980
Tim Link: So, you know, episodes in that.

00:53:31.980 --> 00:53:36.780
Tim Link: So, yeah, I do the narrations and I know the material better than anybody and.

00:53:36.780 --> 00:53:38.360
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Exactly.

00:53:38.360 --> 00:53:58.680
Tim Link: Yeah, when you write something, you know, it is when you're writing it, if you write an article or a book or whatever it may be, and you publish it and then 10 years later or five years later, you go back, you have to reread it again to make sure you, oh yeah, that's what that story was about or, oh yeah, and then your reading skills.

00:53:58.680 --> 00:54:03.960
Tim Link: You know, talking like we are here, much different than sitting there reading a book and reading it out loud.

00:54:04.460 --> 00:54:08.720
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Yes, and not automatically changing the word, reading it verbatim.

00:54:08.720 --> 00:54:10.720
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Yes, I can only imagine because you're the author.

00:54:10.720 --> 00:54:12.500
Isabel Alvarez Arata: That must be really challenging.

00:54:12.500 --> 00:54:17.080
Isabel Alvarez Arata: So last question, just because I have to have this question answered to me.

00:54:17.080 --> 00:54:30.160
Isabel Alvarez Arata: The stereotypes that we have of dogs and cats, that dogs are man's best friend, eager to please, blah, blah, blah, and that cats are standoffish, it would eat us if we died in our, you know what I mean, three days later.

00:54:30.160 --> 00:54:35.780
Isabel Alvarez Arata: You know, like those two extreme stereotypes that we have for cats and dogs.

00:54:35.780 --> 00:54:39.920
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Since you've spoken to them directly, how accurate are these stereotypes?

00:54:39.920 --> 00:54:42.820
Tim Link: Well, and you forgot the most common stereotype.

00:54:42.820 --> 00:54:45.580
Tim Link: Dogs are boys and cats are girls.

00:54:47.400 --> 00:54:49.240
Isabel Alvarez Arata: My cat is so offended by that.

00:54:49.240 --> 00:54:49.420
Tim Link: I know.

00:54:49.420 --> 00:54:52.400
Isabel Alvarez Arata: My cat is like, I am man.

00:54:52.420 --> 00:54:53.840
Tim Link: Oh my gosh.

00:54:53.840 --> 00:54:58.160
Tim Link: Well, I will admit my, and I'll blame this on my wife because it's absolutely true.

00:54:58.160 --> 00:55:04.020
Tim Link: She is a daily Starbucks run, and I'm the one who usually goes gets it unless she has the time available.

00:55:04.020 --> 00:55:10.080
Tim Link: So she got to get her a grande for appiccino, non-fat, no whip for pumps mocha every day.

00:55:10.080 --> 00:55:23.780
Tim Link: I have my little schnauzer, my little white dusty girl, my little 10 pounder, and she's sitting in a tethered seat right beside me because she sits in the front, mom sits in the back, and she's got this lovely pink collar on.

00:55:23.780 --> 00:55:29.880
Tim Link: Even the people of Starbucks that have seen us every day, I'm almost like Norm from Cheers.

00:55:30.100 --> 00:55:35.380
Tim Link: When I walk in or drive, I was like, and they already know what we're going to order, so it's not a problem.

00:55:35.380 --> 00:55:37.240
Tim Link: They still call dusty a boy.

00:55:38.380 --> 00:55:42.200
Tim Link: It's not because dusty can sort of go, you need a way boy, girl, type of thing.

00:55:42.200 --> 00:55:45.940
Tim Link: No, and they see the pink collar and she's pretty princess.

00:55:45.940 --> 00:55:47.260
Isabel Alvarez Arata: She is such a pretty princess.

00:55:47.260 --> 00:55:52.060
Isabel Alvarez Arata: She screams, I'm a little princess, everywhere she goes, how is this possible?

00:55:52.060 --> 00:55:52.920
Tim Link: Absolutely.

00:55:53.080 --> 00:55:54.540
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Is it true?

00:55:54.540 --> 00:55:58.760
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Are we misappropriating these personalities to these species?

00:55:59.320 --> 00:56:02.640
Isabel Alvarez Arata: You tell us because you've had one-on-one conversations with them.

00:56:02.640 --> 00:56:04.180
Tim Link: Yeah.

00:56:04.180 --> 00:56:05.420
Tim Link: Animals are just like us.

00:56:05.420 --> 00:56:07.720
Tim Link: They're their own unique personality.

00:56:07.720 --> 00:56:09.700
Tim Link: Each one is different.

00:56:09.700 --> 00:56:16.280
Tim Link: Certain breeds, certain types of animals will have certain characteristics which will blend over.

00:56:16.280 --> 00:56:23.840
Tim Link: But you can have two dogs, for instance, in the same litter, and they're night and day, totally different, and that's the case.

00:56:23.840 --> 00:56:33.040
Tim Link: So yeah, I've seen dogs that love their male companion, the best, and then the opposite way around.

00:56:33.040 --> 00:56:44.020
Tim Link: I will say in this household, we've got two Schnauzers, Dusty, the little girl, and Kramer, the boy, and they both love daddy like you wouldn't believe.

00:56:44.020 --> 00:56:47.260
Tim Link: But Dusty is my girl, and Kramer is mama's boy.

00:56:48.260 --> 00:56:54.260
Tim Link: He won't even go to Starbucks with me most of the time, unless Kim's on board with it.

00:56:54.260 --> 00:56:57.000
Tim Link: Yeah, he's mama's boy.

00:56:57.000 --> 00:57:05.080
Tim Link: So yeah, I think like always, us humans get it wrong and we have to open ourselves up and realize that they're their own unique personality.

00:57:05.080 --> 00:57:05.880
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Exactly.

00:57:05.880 --> 00:57:09.720
Isabel Alvarez Arata: So cats are not vicious, planning our murder, and dogs are not.

00:57:09.720 --> 00:57:12.640
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Just you shouldn't let your dog babysit your baby, right?

00:57:12.800 --> 00:57:13.540
Isabel Alvarez Arata: No.

00:57:13.540 --> 00:57:15.260
Tim Link: Yeah, you don't have to worry about it.

00:57:15.260 --> 00:57:16.760
Tim Link: Don't worry about it.

00:57:16.760 --> 00:57:17.580
Isabel Alvarez Arata: All right, guys.

00:57:17.580 --> 00:57:24.700
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Well, I just want to propose a toast to you for always bringing such a wonderful topic for conversation.

00:57:24.700 --> 00:57:28.560
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I love that I have this friend who I can ask all these crazy questions to.

00:57:28.560 --> 00:57:29.060
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Cheers.

00:57:29.060 --> 00:57:29.900
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Thank you.

00:57:29.900 --> 00:57:30.920
Tim Link: Thank you.

00:57:30.920 --> 00:57:36.580
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I also want to propose a toast to our mutual friends and executive producer, Mark Winter.

00:57:36.580 --> 00:57:38.440
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Thank you, Mark, for letting us do this.

00:57:38.720 --> 00:57:40.260
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Absolutely.

00:57:40.260 --> 00:57:44.040
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Also, to my audience and to Tim's audience who I'm sure is going to tune in.

00:57:44.040 --> 00:57:46.820
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Thank you so much for joining us for these conversations.

00:57:46.820 --> 00:57:48.540
Isabel Alvarez Arata: It is a pleasure to bring these to you.

00:57:48.540 --> 00:57:49.340
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I have so much fun.

00:57:49.340 --> 00:57:52.080
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I hope you have as much fun as we do chatting.

00:57:52.080 --> 00:57:56.020
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Here is to a life covered in pet hair because there's no better way to live.

00:57:56.020 --> 00:57:56.800
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