Covered In Pet Hair

Join Isabel and special guest Kara Rose of Raw Paw Adventures for Covered in Pet Hair's first ever live episode. In this Halloween episode, Isabel digs into Kara's favorite spooky movies, songs, and snacks. She then puts Kara on the spot to share all the spooky, often gross, realities of feeding pets raw food.

These two animal lovers discuss Kara's trajectory from Nurse Practitioner to Canine Nutritionist. Kara shares many tips for pet parents interested in boosting their pets' bowls or transitioning to raw feeding. Enjoy the Halloween laughs but watch out for that discussion about secreting organs!

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BIO:

Kara Rose Hanrahan is a dog mom, cat mom, wife, and Nurse Practitioner with a passion for animal welfare. Her professional background combines with a love for pets, bringing joy through connections with both human patients and animal clients.

Her experience in healthcare led her to question the impact of diet on canine health. This inquiry revealed concerns about kibble companies' practices and the suitability of processed pet foods for carnivorous animals like dogs and cats.

Kara advocates for a diet aligned with evolutionary needs: meat, bones, organs, and some fiber. Her research into fresh feeding led her to become a certified professional canine nutritionist (CPCN). She has successfully transitioned her own pets to fresh food diets, addressing and improving their chronic medical conditions.

Transcript:

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Announcer: This is Pet Life Radio.

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Announcer: Let's talk pets.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Welcome to Covered in Pet Hair, a bluesy show for pet lovers on Pet Life Radio.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I'm your host, Isabel Alvarez Arata, and today I have the pleasure of having you drink in a chat with a nurse practitioner for humans, turned nutritionist for canines.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Don't go anywhere, we'll be right back with her at the end of these messages from our sponsors.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Hi, I'm Isabel Alvarez Arata, the host of Covered in Pet Hair.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: You know the expression, cats have nine lives?

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Well, what if you could give them one more?

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: The Give Them Ten movement is on a mission to help give cats an extra life.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: How?

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: With spay and neuter.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Spaying and neutering your cat helps them live a longer, healthier life.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: And it helps control re-roaming cat populations too.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Learn more about the benefits of spay and neuter and meet Scooter, the neutered cat at givethemten.org.

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Announcer: Let's talk pets on petliferadio.com.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Welcome back to Covered in Pet Hair.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I'm your host, Isabel Alvarez Arata, and today I have the pleasure of having a drink and a chat with a nurse practitioner, a canine nutritionist.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: She's a holistic health coach for both people and pets.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: She's wife to Will, dog mom to Piper, Copper and Bear, cat mom to Goose, Oliver and Flower.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: She is the creator of Raw Paw Adventures.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: She's Kara Rose.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Welcome Kara, it's so good to have you on the show.

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Kara Rose: Wow, that was two of my cats.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Oh my gosh, that's like the best, that's the best ever, like Halloween sound.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I did not have to create, this is amazing.

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Kara Rose: Feel free to have it, it's all yours.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Oh my God, I'm definitely taking a bit of that and I'm gonna keep it forever.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I need to introduce our drinking game.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: We're gonna dig in to everything that you are about, all the things that you do, including helping humans and pets.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: But before I do that, I want to introduce our drinking game today, so anybody at home participating in our drinking game, anytime you hear this word.

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Kara Rose: The secret reward is bones.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Kara cannot overuse the word, not use the word.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: She's just gonna have to use it in normal conversation.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: If it comes up, she says it, what do you do?

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: You drink, you drink from your drink.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: So before I go any further, I want to show you my boozy cocktail here.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I am having something absolutely phenomenal that has dry ice in it.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: It's spooky.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: It's matcha.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: It has no name.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: So if you guys have any ideas, let's name it together.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: It is matcha vodka, cream soda and dry ice for the garnish.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: So what are you joining us with today Kara?

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Kara Rose: You know, I know that this is gonna sound super lame, but I just have a good old-fashioned glass of kombucha.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Kombucha is perfect.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Kombucha is perfectly fine.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Always welcome here.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Cheers.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Thank you for being my guest.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: It's so good to have you on the show.

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Kara Rose: I love it.

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Kara Rose: I love it.

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Kara Rose: And I think that I have a great name for your matcha drink.

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Kara Rose: I like the matcha Monster Mash.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Oh, matcha Monster Mash.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: This is, by the way, it's delicious.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Shout out to my husband who makes my drinks whenever he's home.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: This is absolutely delicious.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: We found the recipe online, kind of made it our own, and it is absolutely fantastic.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: So I'm going to take another sip of my matcha Monster Mash.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Love that.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: You see, this is why I just leave it up to my guests to figure things out.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: So as always, I want to introduce our show with a game.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: And today we're obviously celebrating Halloween.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Happy Halloween, everybody.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: And I'm obviously dressed as a bat, which was almost a disaster because I couldn't find my ears.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: But we have to play this so that we can get to know you, Kara, and your Halloween references.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: So this is called Halloween Faves.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Are you ready to play?

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Kara Rose: I am so ready.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: All right, here we go.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Favorite Halloween song?

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Kara Rose: It's gotta be Thriller.

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Kara Rose: And I like the dance, too.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Yes, it's a classic.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I have mixed feelings about MJ after that whole documentary.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: And it really does, like, you know, kind of put a damper on that.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Whole thing.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: But there's nothing quite like my childhood, growing up in the 80s, dancing to Thriller, learning the choreo.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Like, it just is a classic.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: It is a classic.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Not to bring it down.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Favorite Halloween movie?

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Kara Rose: The one everyone will know is Hocus Pocus, but I love Kiki's Delivery Service, which is the Studio Ghibli movie.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Kiki's Delivery Service?

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Kara Rose: It's animated.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Oh my goodness.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Okay.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: All right.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Cool.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I got to look it up.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Will my kids like it?

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Kara Rose: Yes.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: All right.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: That's good to know.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Favorite Halloween costume you've ever worn?

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Kara Rose: I did a sexy Belle from Beauty and the Beast a few years back, and I borrowed it from someone else, so I don't have it for myself anymore, but that was probably my favorite because she's one of my favorite Disney princesses.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I do love Belle.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: She's a classic.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: And what made her sexy Belle?

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Kara Rose: Well, you know, it was maybe a little low cut, maybe a little bit shorter than her traditional, you know, blue apron-y looking dress.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Apron?

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Her blue apron was not, is not sexy.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Who knew?

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I guess it depends on who you ask, right?

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Um, all right.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Favorite Halloween tradition, whether it's yours or something you know about, something that tickles your fancy.

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Kara Rose: I'm not one for trick-or-treating, not anymore.

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Kara Rose: I really love just curling up on the couch, snuggling up under a blanket with my husband and my bonds and watching old Halloween classics, which are mostly the good old-fashioned high school classic, Hocus Pocus, Halloween Town.

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Kara Rose: That's probably my favorite thing to do on Halloween.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Amazing.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Okay.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I do, I do love the snuggling on the couch Halloween, but I have two young kids, so that's not going to happen for me for a while.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Um, favorite Halloween candy.

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Kara Rose: So I am actually doing sugar, cutting out all sugar right now that's not like added, but there was a house in my neighborhood that used to give out fruit roll-up.

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Kara Rose: It takes the cake.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Fruit roll-ups are good.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I like fruit roll-ups.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I like that.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Okay.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Are you for or against candy corn?

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Kara Rose: Oh, against.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Okay.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I don't like them.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I mean, they're kind of like one of those things that you eat brainlessly, like just kind of like it's kind of craving sugar.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: It fits the bill, but that's about it.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I'm more of a sour candy person.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: That's just me.

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Kara Rose: All right.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Your favorite Halloween meal, is there something that if you could always have the same thing on Halloween, what would it be?

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Kara Rose: You know, I don't think it would be a meal.

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Kara Rose: I think it would actually be more of a snack.

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Kara Rose: I really love cute Halloween themed like cookies or like pretzel snacks and stuff.

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Kara Rose: So I think it would be more like a platter of Halloween themed treats as opposed to a meal.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Okay, perfect.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: All right.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: And then witches, pumpkins, spiders.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Oh my, which is your favorite Halloween icon of all the things that we see at like Party City and such?

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Kara Rose: Anything cat.

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Kara Rose: I love black cat.

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Kara Rose: I specifically went to the ASPCA one time to give myself a black cat because I felt so connected to them.

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Kara Rose: And so any cat costume will probably decoration.

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Kara Rose: That's my cat.

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Kara Rose: 100% cat.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Is that your cat walking on your computer that I hear?

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Kara Rose: Yes.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I love it.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Don't stop it.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Don't stop the cat from doing that.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: That's hilarious.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: And you are dressed today in costume.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Tell us about your costume.

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Kara Rose: So this is, I'll show you a little bit more, but we've put them.

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Kara Rose: This is my renaissance.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: What is this?

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Kara Rose: So this was actually handmade.

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Kara Rose: I love renaissance fairs.

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Kara Rose: And when I lived in New York, I used to go every year, we had this huge fair in Sterling.

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Kara Rose: And I bought this there probably seven years ago now.

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Kara Rose: It cost a lot of money.

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Kara Rose: It's a herringbone corset, homespun cotton shirt.

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Kara Rose: It's all completely handmade because to sell anything at the festival, you have to make it yourself.

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Kara Rose: And I spent a lot of money on this dang thing.

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Kara Rose: So I wear it every time I go to a renaissance fair.

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Kara Rose: And I've been wearing it on Halloween many, many years.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: So I love it.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I love that idea that it has to be handmade to be sold there.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I'm all about it.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: And your hair.

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Announcer: Oh my gosh.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: You are wearing that renaissance fair find very well, if I do say so myself.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: So thank you for letting us in on your spooky preferences.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: But I want to get to know you now.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: So tell me, how does a nurse practitioner become a canine nutritionist?

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I feel like just, I don't know anything about your job, but I feel like you probably have enough on your plate as a nurse practitioner to be like, oh, I'm just going to start learning about canine nutrition and supporting pet parents in changes and in choices.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: That's a big responsibility.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: So tell me about that.

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Kara Rose: Yeah.

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Kara Rose: At work, I work in critical care.

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Kara Rose: So I work in the ER and the ICU and I see the sickest of, and you're right, it's a lot.

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Kara Rose: I ended up on the path of canine nutrition because my own job was suffering from chronic pancreatitis, and for years, conventional veterinary medicine could not help us.

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Kara Rose: We ended up on a prescription kibble.

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Kara Rose: He was underweight, still had pancreatitis flares, and it was just heartbreaking to watch.

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Kara Rose: So I started looking into fresh food options.

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Kara Rose: At first, I thought it was nut.

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Kara Rose: Then I thought, okay, maybe there's something to this.

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Kara Rose: And then I finally pulled the trigger, and near instantaneously, I saw improvement, and I can tell you now, it's been years and he has not had pancreatitis flare again.

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Kara Rose: He looks amazing.

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Kara Rose: He's still kind of brainless.

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Kara Rose: I probably should have dressed him up as a scarecrow for homing.

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Kara Rose: But he does have a little bit better listening skills and recall now that I'm actually feeding his brain the nutrition that it needs.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: That's really interesting.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Yeah.

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Kara Rose: So it always stems from your own, right?

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Kara Rose: And so I only had the time to do this because my husband and I moved to California, and it took a very long time, several months for my new hospital to credential me.

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Kara Rose: So I was on work for people.

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Kara Rose: So he had all this time, and I practically worked a full-time job taking courses, reading books, watching videos, following all these people, and then eventually getting certified.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Wow.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Okay.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: So you have both cats and dogs.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Are you thinking about getting a certification in feline nutrition as well?

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Kara Rose: I really want to, but I actually don't know of any kind of more professional certifying body, right?

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Kara Rose: So I know that Dr.

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Kara Rose: Billinghurst put out his new course recently, and he does talk about feline nutrition in there.

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Kara Rose: So if I were to reach for anything, it would probably be that first, but I can call myself a certified canine nutritionist because I did the FeedReel certification, but I don't think there's a formal certification for kitty chef.

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Kara Rose: Soon as I find one, I will snag it.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Oh, that's really good to know.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: So if there's one thing that pet parents should know that really draws a huge line between canine nutrition and feline nutrition, what do you think that would be?

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Like what do people have no idea about that?

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Probably they should know when it comes to cat versus dog.

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Kara Rose: Yeah.

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Kara Rose: The biggest thing for me is moisture.

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Kara Rose: So while it's not ideal for any dog or cat to have a dry food diet, if you can help it, it is so infinitely much more important for cats, because they're at such high risk for kidney disease.

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Kara Rose: Cats are albigat converse, right?

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Kara Rose: So they have to have meat in their diet.

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Kara Rose: While a dog could survive on a plant-based diet if they truly, truly had to or they can tolerate more plants in the diet, cats are truly albigat converse.

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Kara Rose: They have to have the meat, they have to have the protein, there are specific amino acids that they can not synthesize without meat.

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Kara Rose: So that is probably my number one and two takeaway.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Perfect.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Moisture and protein.

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Kara Rose: Yeah.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: All right.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Well, we need to take a break right here, but when we come back, I will dig in to all of the things, the spooky, scary, gross realities of raw feeding.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Welcome back to Covered in Pet Hair.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I'm your host, Isabel Alvarez Arata, and I am today having a live podcast with my friend Kara Rose, who is the founder of Raw Paw Adventures.

00:15:38.982 --> 00:15:48.022
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And she is going to help us navigate the grossness, the realities of raw feeding, because, you know, it's Halloween.

00:15:48.022 --> 00:15:54.262
Isabel Alvarez Arata: So when else should we talk about guts and bones and things like that?

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: It's the perfect day.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: So, Kara, if you are game, I would like to play a second game with you, and it is called Spooky Truths, Raw Feeding Edition.

00:16:03.582 --> 00:16:07.082
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And I'm going to give you two minutes on my handy dandy clock here.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: And you're just going to break it down, break it down the gore, the grossness, the things you like, the things you don't like, the things that really gross you out, whatever you have, you have two minutes to share with us.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Are you ready to go?

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Kara Rose: I am so ready.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I'm going to count you down, three, two, one, go!

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Kara Rose: All right, definitely bones, guts, gore, organs, it is all out there.

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Kara Rose: So my dogs eat primarily raw food.

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Kara Rose: I feed them outside because they are quite disgusting.

00:16:43.022 --> 00:16:45.842
Kara Rose: We get splashes of juices everywhere.

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Kara Rose: You know, there's pieces of meat flying through the air.

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Kara Rose: And I'm not deemed for cleaning my entire kitchen every single day.

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Kara Rose: So they go out into the yard in a big old patch of sunshine, which will naturally help with any bacteria that's sitting around after they eat.

00:17:02.822 --> 00:17:05.802
Kara Rose: I recently added brain into their diet.

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Kara Rose: This is the first time I have ever added brain as my second secreting organ.

00:17:10.122 --> 00:17:15.222
Kara Rose: And let me tell you, I have seen some gross, gross things working in the hospital.

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Kara Rose: I've seen oozy wounds.

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Kara Rose: I've smelled smelly smells.

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Kara Rose: Touching brains to put into my dog's food.

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Kara Rose: I think it finally got me.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I finally found what was going to get me.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: It's brain.

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Kara Rose: So that might be the first and last time I put brain in their diet.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Okay.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: So you have about 40, 50 seconds left.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Tell me more.

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Kara Rose: I actually love having raw meaty bones in the diet for them.

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Kara Rose: And sometimes instead of a full raw meal, I will give them a meaty bone as a meal replacement.

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Kara Rose: There's just something about listening to them crunch on that bone and watching them crunch it into the little pieces that they need to be able to swallow it safely.

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Kara Rose: That is truly satisfying.

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Kara Rose: I think that's called ASMR when you listen to someone make a noise and it just satisfies you.

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Kara Rose: Crunching out raw meaty bones is definitely it for me.

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Kara Rose: And then of course, there's the poop.

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Kara Rose: All right.

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Kara Rose: Feeding raw food gives you the absolute best poops that you can look for.

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Kara Rose: Instead of having big mushy piles, you get small little nuggets and it's much easier to clean up and less stinky too.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Oh my gosh, you are a pro at this.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Bravo.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Good job.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Okay.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: So you had me at secreting organs.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Is that what you said?

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Guys, this is not planned.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Like we do not rehearse this before.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: My guests have no idea what I'm going to ask.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: And secreting organs was not something that was on any kind of script.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: And what is another secreting organ that you have fed just out of curiosity?

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Kara Rose: Yeah.

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Kara Rose: Kidney is the one I feed the most because it's the most accessible to me.

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Kara Rose: Kidney is great.

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Kara Rose: It's high in the selenium, asking B vitamin.

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Kara Rose: So kidney is a staple in our diet for sure.

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Kara Rose: And then spleen was also new this month.

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Kara Rose: Spleen, very high in iron, great for puppies and pregnant moms.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Okay.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Next question.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Where do you get all this stuff?

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Like I wouldn't even know where to source spleen.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I mean, I'm living in El Paso, Latinos, we eat every part of the animal.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: So I'm sure there's like a Mexican market here that would have this stuff.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: But where and how?

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Do I just go in and ask, can I have some spleen?

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Kara Rose: You could.

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Kara Rose: So Mexican markets, Asian markets, ethnic markets is where you'll tend to find the organ.

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Kara Rose: Spleen might be a little bit harder to find, but I can almost guarantee you that you'll find kidney at almost every single one.

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Kara Rose: There's a Mexican market actually up the street for me, and they have heart, liver, they have bones, they have other awful there.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Oh, wait, wait, bones, bones.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: She said bones, guys.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: She said bones.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Got to drink, got to drink.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: So if you joined late, the drinking game word is...

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Kara Rose: The secret word is bones.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: So I go in and I ask for spleen or brain or whatever.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: This is raw at like the meat counter.

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Kara Rose: Yeah.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Okay.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: And then how long do I have...

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Or frozen.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Okay, frozen.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Do they sell them frozen?

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Okay.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: And then how long between like thawing or buying do I have before I have to feed this to my pet?

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Kara Rose: So I will not let something sit thawed in my refrigerator for more than four days.

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Kara Rose: So I buy being a bowl packages because I have three big dogs to prep for.

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Kara Rose: So it does need to partially thaw one time for meat.

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Kara Rose: So it's thawed pretty much all the way through.

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Kara Rose: It takes me a few hours to do my monthly meal prep and then it all goes back into the freezer.

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Kara Rose: And then I pull one meal out each day as I feed a meal from the fridge and it thaws over three to four days so that by the time we get to day four and I pull it out, it's thawed and I feed it.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Okay, perfect.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: And then what tips do you have for any people who are not raw feeding right now, but are interested in potentially dipping their toe into this whole raw pie adventure?

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Kara Rose: Yeah, you know, I started out with cooked, actually.

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Kara Rose: I did it for a few weeks.

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Kara Rose: It was not sustainable for me.

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Kara Rose: But if you're feeling a little bit hesitant about raw food, you could always do cooked.

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Kara Rose: And I actually have a calculator on my website.

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Kara Rose: It is the first ever calculator that has been created that has options for both raw and cooked.

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Kara Rose: So you could go on there, plug in your pet's information, and it will tell you your dog.

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Kara Rose: Right now, it's only for dogs.

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Kara Rose: And it will tell you how much of each ingredient to feed them, whether you choose raw or cooked.

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Kara Rose: And first, a lot of really great veterinarians and holistic health practitioners and other holistic pet professionals that exist in this space.

00:21:41.922 --> 00:21:48.062
Kara Rose: And I would say, find someone you can network and follow them, engage with them, ask them questions.

00:21:48.062 --> 00:21:49.362
Kara Rose: We want to help you.

00:21:49.362 --> 00:21:51.062
Kara Rose: It's literally why we do it.

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Kara Rose: So come find us.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Exactly, exactly.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Okay, so it's 2024.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Things are expensive.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Any tips for sourcing things without breaking the bank?

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Kara Rose: Yeah, you know, big pop stores.

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Kara Rose: So I get ingredients at Costco.

00:22:05.202 --> 00:22:07.982
Kara Rose: You can go to BJ's, Sam's Club, Restaurant Depot.

00:22:07.982 --> 00:22:10.162
Kara Rose: I can go to Restaurant Depot because I have a business.

00:22:10.162 --> 00:22:12.982
Kara Rose: You have to be a business owner to go to Restaurant Depot.

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Kara Rose: Co-ops are also a huge help.

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Kara Rose: I get almost all my ingredients from my local co-op and it brings the price down from like $5, $6, $7 a pound at the grocery store to maybe $2 or $3 a pound at the co-op.

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Kara Rose: It is the only way I can afford to feed three day dogs raw food.

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Kara Rose: So definitely take a look and see if there's a local co-op near you.

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Kara Rose: I did compile Resources by State, which is also on my website under the Resources tab.

00:22:39.642 --> 00:22:42.822
Kara Rose: You can click on your state and you'll see the list of co-ops near you.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Perfect.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: And what mistakes do you want people to avoid?

00:22:47.582 --> 00:22:53.302
Isabel Alvarez Arata: If you had to just narrow it down to a few mistakes that are pretty common in this transition to raw feeding.

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Kara Rose: Oh, yeah.

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Kara Rose: You know, the first mistake I would say in, people panic when they don't see, either they don't see results within a few days or they see some GI upset in a few days.

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Kara Rose: I want you to think of it like you as a person who ate Doritos and McDonald's every day for 10 years, and then one day decided to sit down and have a salad.

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Kara Rose: Do you think your gut would be happy?

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: No.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: No.

00:23:19.042 --> 00:23:20.502
Kara Rose: Neither is your dog.

00:23:20.502 --> 00:23:24.182
Kara Rose: So give them time, be prepared for it, right?

00:23:24.182 --> 00:23:33.062
Kara Rose: When we like see some diarrhea, we might feel a little GI upset, have some slippery L on him, the great natural method to deal with diarrhea.

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Kara Rose: So that would be, I think, number one.

00:23:35.422 --> 00:23:41.062
Kara Rose: Number two would be don't get stuck or lazy.

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Kara Rose: I see people say, oh, well, I found this one thing and it works really great for me, so I'm just going to make it all the time.

00:23:46.542 --> 00:23:49.382
Kara Rose: You know, your dog and cat need variety.

00:23:49.382 --> 00:23:51.642
Kara Rose: It's how they get different nutrients.

00:23:51.642 --> 00:23:55.922
Kara Rose: You can't eat only turkey every single day and expect to get every nutrient you need, right?

00:23:55.922 --> 00:24:00.002
Kara Rose: Poultry is a little bit low in iron, whereas you're going to find iron in red meat.

00:24:00.002 --> 00:24:07.242
Kara Rose: So you want to make sure that you are keeping it, don't slice it up, have some variety, have different meat, have different veggies.

00:24:07.242 --> 00:24:10.462
Kara Rose: So always, always include variety.

00:24:10.462 --> 00:24:16.702
Kara Rose: And then my third and final one would be, and this is a little bit more specific, never feed cold food.

00:24:16.702 --> 00:24:20.542
Kara Rose: Your dog's gut is not meant to digest ice cold food.

00:24:20.542 --> 00:24:23.562
Kara Rose: And even food from the fridge is not particularly ideal.

00:24:23.562 --> 00:24:29.682
Kara Rose: If you think about a wild dog or a wolf, they are eating their real fresh from the hunt.

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Kara Rose: Maybe a few days later, if it's sitting out, it's room temperature, but that's still pretty warm unless we're talking about the middle of winter.

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Kara Rose: So you want to try and heat the food up before you feed it.

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Kara Rose: I take mine out of the fridge.

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Kara Rose: I fill the sink with warm water.

00:24:43.582 --> 00:24:47.882
Kara Rose: I pop the containers in the warm water, and I let them sit there for about 20 minutes before I feed them.

00:24:47.882 --> 00:24:54.802
Kara Rose: You can also add warm water for it in there, warm vulnerability for it in there, or heat it up gently on the stove with some water.

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Kara Rose: I don't like to microwave, but in a pinch, if you really had to, you could.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Yeah.

00:24:58.442 --> 00:25:03.202
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Don't go source amazing meats and things, and then microwave them, please, I beg you.

00:25:03.202 --> 00:25:07.542
Isabel Alvarez Arata: But maybe just a little bit of water to add, maybe that would be okay.

00:25:07.542 --> 00:25:14.262
Isabel Alvarez Arata: But yeah, we don't want to nuke all the yummy, gooey, secreting organs that we're sharing with our dogs.

00:25:14.262 --> 00:25:15.382
Kara Rose: No, we don't.

00:25:15.382 --> 00:25:16.162
Kara Rose: No, we don't.

00:25:16.162 --> 00:25:18.702
Kara Rose: Although I will say, a frozen snack is okay.

00:25:18.702 --> 00:25:24.302
Kara Rose: Little frozen snack out of the freezer, maybe a frozen fish, maybe a frozen gel mold, that's fine, but not an email.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Okay.

00:25:25.062 --> 00:25:33.442
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Two last questions, and then we can open it up to questions if there are any, but I don't see anybody because the pet parenting reset, Jessica, is still waiting for us on Instagram.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I'm so sorry if this didn't make it on Instagram, guys, but StreamYard, you're telling me that we're live on Instagram.

00:25:40.322 --> 00:25:42.042
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Look, it says, you are live.

00:25:42.042 --> 00:25:42.902
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I am live.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Anyway.

00:25:43.442 --> 00:25:44.702
Kara Rose: But of the treat?

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Yes.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Okay.

00:25:45.542 --> 00:25:46.342
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Yeah, exactly.

00:25:46.342 --> 00:25:49.202
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Today, that's the trick of the day.

00:25:49.202 --> 00:25:55.202
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Speaking of treats, actually, what do you feed your dogs and cats as treats?

00:25:55.202 --> 00:25:56.722
Kara Rose: You know, I'm a mean mom.

00:25:56.722 --> 00:25:58.182
Kara Rose: I don't give a lot of treat.

00:25:58.182 --> 00:26:00.882
Kara Rose: And on special occasions, they do get some.

00:26:00.882 --> 00:26:03.402
Kara Rose: I will make single ingredient treats, so I have a dehydrator.

00:26:03.642 --> 00:26:10.862
Kara Rose: So sometimes, I'll slice duck hearts in half and I'll dehydrate those, or I'll thinly slice an apple with the skin, and I'll dehydrate that.

00:26:10.862 --> 00:26:12.182
Kara Rose: Those make really great treat.

00:26:12.182 --> 00:26:18.002
Kara Rose: I like to give them shoes, though, as treat, something that they have to work for a little bit harder.

00:26:18.002 --> 00:26:22.842
Kara Rose: And I have been getting the same amazing shoes from the same company for years.

00:26:22.842 --> 00:26:28.702
Kara Rose: And my dogs absolutely love them, and I will definitely continue having them in the diet.

00:26:28.702 --> 00:26:30.462
Kara Rose: And sometimes, I actually use them as a meal replacement.

00:26:30.722 --> 00:26:40.742
Kara Rose: So, things like cow ears or beef trachea or even a pig foot, a whole air-dried pig foot, they sell.

00:26:40.742 --> 00:26:49.302
Kara Rose: So, that's my go-to, is like a chew or an air-dried type bone or single ingredient treats that I can easily make in my kitchen.

00:26:49.302 --> 00:26:51.182
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Awesome, awesome, awesome.

00:26:51.182 --> 00:26:51.882
Isabel Alvarez Arata: That is great.

00:26:51.882 --> 00:27:01.222
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I do give single ingredient treats to my dogs and cats, and I always use Bear's Bites.

00:27:01.222 --> 00:27:04.302
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I know the owner, we're friends.

00:27:04.302 --> 00:27:06.022
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Oh yeah, I met her at Super Zoo.

00:27:06.022 --> 00:27:07.002
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Yes, exactly.

00:27:07.002 --> 00:27:11.842
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I met her at Super Zoo like three years ago, and she's a genuine, personal friend of mine.

00:27:11.842 --> 00:27:13.902
Isabel Alvarez Arata: She sources everything very responsibly.

00:27:13.902 --> 00:27:15.602
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I trust her implicitly.

00:27:15.602 --> 00:27:20.442
Isabel Alvarez Arata: So, Bear's Bites, and I will tell you this, I have a cat that comes when called.

00:27:20.442 --> 00:27:24.282
Isabel Alvarez Arata: His recall is better than any dog I've ever had, and it's because of those treats.

00:27:24.402 --> 00:27:27.922
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And it's usually chicken hearts, beef livers, right?

00:27:27.922 --> 00:27:28.942
Isabel Alvarez Arata: But like, it's fine.

00:27:28.942 --> 00:27:30.062
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I'll wash my hands after.

00:27:30.062 --> 00:27:34.202
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And by the way, Jessica just told me that we have a StreamYard banner at the bottom of the screen.

00:27:34.202 --> 00:27:34.942
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I can't remove it.

00:27:34.942 --> 00:27:36.662
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I've deleted it eight times.

00:27:36.662 --> 00:27:38.482
Isabel Alvarez Arata: StreamYard, what are you doing to me today?

00:27:38.482 --> 00:27:40.162
Isabel Alvarez Arata: But I'm here and we're doing this.

00:27:40.162 --> 00:27:40.822
Isabel Alvarez Arata: It's fine.

00:27:40.822 --> 00:27:43.922
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I don't really want to troubleshoot that until we start recording.

00:27:43.922 --> 00:27:46.122
Isabel Alvarez Arata: But anyway, last question.

00:27:46.122 --> 00:27:58.842
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Right now, for anybody who's listening, any pet parent who's going to tune in when we share this podcast, what is the one thing they can do as quickly as today, this weekend, that would improve their pet's health long term?

00:27:58.842 --> 00:28:04.722
Kara Rose: I would say start replacing maybe 20 percent of the bowl with fresh food.

00:28:04.722 --> 00:28:06.702
Kara Rose: It doesn't have to be fancy.

00:28:06.702 --> 00:28:10.522
Kara Rose: It can quite literally be your dinner leftovers.

00:28:10.902 --> 00:28:13.702
Kara Rose: You don't usually eat the bottom of the broccoli, right?

00:28:13.702 --> 00:28:14.802
Kara Rose: You eat the floret.

00:28:14.802 --> 00:28:19.002
Kara Rose: Chop that up, maybe steam it or puree it, add it to the bowl.

00:28:19.002 --> 00:28:20.342
Kara Rose: It's full of nutrients.

00:28:20.622 --> 00:28:30.982
Kara Rose: If you're making a steak or a chicken or you're trimming maybe the ends off or maybe there's a lot of fat that you're not going to want to cook, save it, put it in your pet bowl.

00:28:30.982 --> 00:28:33.862
Kara Rose: Adding moisture, bone broth, super easy.

00:28:34.462 --> 00:28:41.142
Kara Rose: I don't love pouring water over kibble just because kibble tends to have some bacterial contamination sometimes.

00:28:41.222 --> 00:28:46.282
Kara Rose: So if you make it a moist environment, it's maybe not the most ideal and it can encourage bacterial growth.

00:28:46.402 --> 00:28:51.402
Kara Rose: Yeah, but adding moisture to the diet is very important.

00:28:51.402 --> 00:29:01.142
Kara Rose: So even if you had it on the side as an extra option, if you're trying to entice your pet to maybe drink some more water, maybe they don't love water, adding bone broth or adding bone broth to the water can entice them a little bit.

00:29:01.162 --> 00:29:09.442
Kara Rose: It's full of really great ingredients like cosmine, convitin, collagen, great for the joints and skin and hair.

00:29:09.442 --> 00:29:13.582
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Do you give your human patients any nutritional advice?

00:29:13.582 --> 00:29:18.782
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I have to know just because we're getting inside your head here.

00:29:18.802 --> 00:29:22.562
Kara Rose: I don't really work in a setting where I can do that.

00:29:22.562 --> 00:29:30.362
Kara Rose: I actually don't really get to talk to most of my patients because a lot of them are either intubated, mechanically ventilated or very confused because they're so sick.

00:29:32.762 --> 00:29:34.042
Kara Rose: But I'm in school right now.

00:29:34.042 --> 00:29:37.362
Kara Rose: I'm actually getting my functional Lettucean certification.

00:29:37.362 --> 00:29:47.842
Kara Rose: My ultimate goal is going to be to leave the hospital setting and open up my own practice where I can do holistic health for people and holistic health for pets.

00:29:47.842 --> 00:29:54.142
Kara Rose: That will all revolve on nutritional advice because health starts in the gut for everyone.

00:29:54.142 --> 00:29:54.982
Isabel Alvarez Arata: That's perfect.

00:29:54.982 --> 00:29:57.802
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I love that because that, actually, we're all trying to be healthier.

00:29:57.962 --> 00:30:03.282
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I feel like right now, especially during the holidays, everything goes down the drain.

00:30:03.282 --> 00:30:06.502
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I have matcha in my vodka drink, so I feel like that's really healthy.

00:30:06.502 --> 00:30:13.102
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Matcha, lots of antioxidants to balance out the bad that the alcohol is doing to me.

00:30:13.102 --> 00:30:20.442
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Even though vodka is good, vodka is good, we use it in tinctures, so there's no reason why I shouldn't be able to drink just a little bit of it.

00:30:20.442 --> 00:30:23.062
Isabel Alvarez Arata: This is not organic, though, so I really should get there.

00:30:23.062 --> 00:30:26.342
Isabel Alvarez Arata: The Pet Parenting Reset says Kim gets way too many treats.

00:30:26.862 --> 00:30:30.562
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I know Jessica is giving really high quality treats.

00:30:30.582 --> 00:30:41.882
Isabel Alvarez Arata: If you had to put, Kara, three treats on the do not buy list, popular treats that are out there, and you don't have to use them by name, but you can describe them so we know what you're talking about.

00:30:41.882 --> 00:30:42.922
Isabel Alvarez Arata: What would they be?

00:30:42.922 --> 00:30:49.322
Kara Rose: Well, let's see, you've got those little bone shaped treats that everybody likes to buy.

00:30:49.322 --> 00:30:50.642
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Bones, bones, bones.

00:30:50.642 --> 00:30:59.982
Kara Rose: So we think we all know what those are made with really crappy solar ingredients and flour and sprain with chicken fat, which goes rancid.

00:30:59.982 --> 00:31:01.442
Kara Rose: That's a big no for me.

00:31:01.442 --> 00:31:07.782
Kara Rose: Also, there's this green dental stick that people like to get.

00:31:07.782 --> 00:31:12.422
Kara Rose: The only thing that's good for is throwing it in your trash.

00:31:12.422 --> 00:31:19.122
Kara Rose: It is actually probably one of the worst possible things that you can give as a treat because it doesn't be opposite of promote dental health.

00:31:19.122 --> 00:31:21.162
Kara Rose: It actually promotes dental plaque.

00:31:21.162 --> 00:31:22.662
Kara Rose: That would be a big no for me.

00:31:23.722 --> 00:31:31.362
Kara Rose: Then, they have those really cute cookies and stuff that are right up at the desk when you go to these conventional type pet stores.

00:31:32.162 --> 00:31:32.982
Kara Rose: No, no.

00:31:32.982 --> 00:31:35.082
Kara Rose: It has just packed with sugar.

00:31:35.082 --> 00:31:37.822
Kara Rose: They always have frosting on top.

00:31:37.822 --> 00:31:40.082
Kara Rose: It's used with weed and fillers.

00:31:40.082 --> 00:31:41.562
Kara Rose: Just no.

00:31:41.562 --> 00:31:42.242
Kara Rose: Just no.

00:31:42.242 --> 00:31:43.042
Isabel Alvarez Arata: No.

00:31:43.042 --> 00:31:43.702
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Just no.

00:31:43.702 --> 00:31:44.362
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Just no.

00:31:44.362 --> 00:31:45.162
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Just don't do it.

00:31:46.122 --> 00:31:46.402
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Yeah.

00:31:46.402 --> 00:31:54.402
Isabel Alvarez Arata: So I feel like if it's, I think it's safe to say that I don't really give my pets anything that's available at Target right now.

00:31:54.402 --> 00:32:00.742
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I feel like Target, this is me challenging you to do a better job of sourcing higher quality treats.

00:32:00.742 --> 00:32:01.542
Isabel Alvarez Arata: They're cute.

00:32:01.542 --> 00:32:02.462
Isabel Alvarez Arata: They have good stuff.

00:32:02.462 --> 00:32:11.882
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Like their Target is, I love Target, but their pet food, their pet aisle needs a whole makeover.

00:32:12.322 --> 00:32:13.402
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Total makeover.

00:32:13.402 --> 00:32:16.862
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Like I feel like Target has our heart.

00:32:16.862 --> 00:32:19.102
Isabel Alvarez Arata: We all go in there for personal stuff.

00:32:19.102 --> 00:32:20.242
Isabel Alvarez Arata: My kids love it.

00:32:20.242 --> 00:32:34.302
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Like if you say we're going to Target, but like the pet aisle is just like living in 1985, where the rest of it, they have like collaborations with like Diane Von Furstenberg in the women's department and the girls department.

00:32:34.302 --> 00:32:37.962
Isabel Alvarez Arata: But they have like those things you just described in the pet aisle.

00:32:37.962 --> 00:32:39.622
Isabel Alvarez Arata: So we got to work on that.

00:32:39.622 --> 00:32:45.722
Isabel Alvarez Arata: But I usually most of the things that my pets eat are mostly sourced online.

00:32:45.842 --> 00:32:47.682
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Is that your experience too?

00:32:47.682 --> 00:32:53.762
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Or like locally, like from a non-pet food manufacturer or like store?

00:32:53.762 --> 00:32:54.162
Kara Rose: Yeah.

00:32:54.162 --> 00:33:00.682
Kara Rose: So the treats and chews that I get that are subscription are real dog box and they're online.

00:33:00.682 --> 00:33:08.222
Kara Rose: And then there is a lovely independent pet store near me called Ben's Marketplace and Nan, the owner, I love her.

00:33:08.222 --> 00:33:09.522
Kara Rose: She's amazing.

00:33:09.522 --> 00:33:11.542
Kara Rose: She has all kinds of options.

00:33:11.542 --> 00:33:13.662
Kara Rose: You can get freeze dried treats, air dried treats.

00:33:15.202 --> 00:33:21.582
Kara Rose: She has amazing brands there that have excellent sourcing, ethical raising practices.

00:33:21.582 --> 00:33:29.782
Kara Rose: Right now, I actually have a couple of treats that I have in here for the kitties because I wanted to entice them to stay with me, although they abandoned me.

00:33:31.922 --> 00:33:36.902
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Not before giving us an angry cat sound that we're going to use forever.

00:33:38.282 --> 00:33:44.602
Kara Rose: I know, but so I'll get things like that for the cats if I'm not going to give them a dehydrated howard or something like that.

00:33:44.602 --> 00:33:46.602
Kara Rose: So you can find them.

00:33:46.602 --> 00:34:01.342
Kara Rose: They exist and your local independent pet store is going to truly, truly appreciate your patronage because it's hard for them to stand up against these big stores that have chains and in my opinion, really kind of sell out, right?

00:34:01.342 --> 00:34:15.642
Kara Rose: They go for quantity over quality and it might cost you an extra dollar for that treat bag at your local independent pet store, but you are giving them such an important service and that trickle down effect increases and improves yourself.

00:34:15.642 --> 00:34:16.502
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Absolutely.

00:34:16.502 --> 00:34:16.922
Isabel Alvarez Arata: 100%.

00:34:17.202 --> 00:34:18.082
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I live in El Paso.

00:34:18.082 --> 00:34:20.522
Isabel Alvarez Arata: We don't have any independent pet food stores.

00:34:20.522 --> 00:34:25.622
Isabel Alvarez Arata: What we have is like tractor supply and like pet barn and things like that.

00:34:25.622 --> 00:34:27.802
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And like there's just they're trying.

00:34:28.162 --> 00:34:35.902
Isabel Alvarez Arata: So like my husband came home with like a thing that said like pet barn is mixing supplements like for pets, which I thought was really interesting.

00:34:35.902 --> 00:34:38.142
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And I was like, bring me a brochure so I can see.

00:34:38.142 --> 00:34:43.202
Isabel Alvarez Arata: But then like you start looking at it and you start asking questions like what, it says Omega 3, but like where, where from?

00:34:43.202 --> 00:34:44.782
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Like what kind of Omega 3?

00:34:44.782 --> 00:34:50.202
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Like are we, are we, is it third party tested to make sure that it is Omega 3 and not like some seed oil, right?

00:34:50.202 --> 00:34:59.982
Isabel Alvarez Arata: So like I start getting a little, I guess like cynical about what's in it because that, at that volume, it's hard to do the really good stuff.

00:34:59.982 --> 00:35:04.462
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Like I get it, like they can't make ends meet if they're sourcing the best stuff.

00:35:04.462 --> 00:35:08.762
Isabel Alvarez Arata: It's the same as a mom trying to like feed her kids the best, healthiest food.

00:35:08.762 --> 00:35:12.722
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Like I wish I could, but I, you know, we have a grocery budget.

00:35:12.722 --> 00:35:15.102
Isabel Alvarez Arata: The same thing happens with these big businesses.

00:35:15.102 --> 00:35:25.382
Isabel Alvarez Arata: So I will say that when I need something in a city like mine, and I've lived in other places where like they're, I mean, the closest targets an hour away.

00:35:25.502 --> 00:35:29.882
Isabel Alvarez Arata: So you're definitely not going to have necessarily a, you know, handy store.

00:35:29.882 --> 00:35:40.022
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Then just be really careful before you hit order, because I feel like there's a lot online that'll promise you a million things.

00:35:40.022 --> 00:35:43.402
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And Kara, obviously you probably see this all the time.

00:35:43.402 --> 00:35:45.662
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And you're like, but what is this even?

00:35:45.662 --> 00:35:47.982
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And why is it on my feed?

00:35:47.982 --> 00:35:51.582
Isabel Alvarez Arata: So are there stuff like that, that you see and you just cringe?

00:35:51.582 --> 00:35:53.342
Kara Rose: So often, so often.

00:35:54.182 --> 00:35:59.902
Kara Rose: So, unfortunately, these companies, these businesses, they know what buzzwords to use, right?

00:35:59.902 --> 00:36:06.002
Kara Rose: Like holistic and elevate the health and fresh and things like that, right?

00:36:06.002 --> 00:36:13.062
Kara Rose: So like the marketing tactic are just genius, genius.

00:36:13.062 --> 00:36:30.302
Kara Rose: They have these pictures of your dog and your cat on the front of this brightly colored bag and they're sitting in front of this bowl of fresh food that looks gourmet and then you flip it over and you look at the bag and it says chicken meal and you know, and like and then ingredients splitting, right?

00:36:30.302 --> 00:36:37.142
Kara Rose: Like corn, corn gluten, you know, corn what it's and it's like, Oh God, what are you throwing to me?

00:36:37.142 --> 00:36:39.622
Kara Rose: But it's tough.

00:36:39.622 --> 00:36:41.282
Kara Rose: We need to check for ingredients.

00:36:41.282 --> 00:36:44.582
Kara Rose: You want to ask about sourcing and there's nothing wrong with being strict.

00:36:44.582 --> 00:36:50.822
Kara Rose: So, you know, just look at it like you are your you are your pet's advocate.

00:36:51.242 --> 00:36:56.502
Kara Rose: And no one else, unless, you know, we're also your pet's advocate.

00:36:56.502 --> 00:37:07.082
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Yeah, we will advocate and we and if ever you need a recommendation to a canine nutritionist, a pet nutritionist, I know so many of them.

00:37:07.082 --> 00:37:12.422
Isabel Alvarez Arata: So always you can come in, like come come over to one of these lives.

00:37:12.422 --> 00:37:14.302
Isabel Alvarez Arata: You can slide into the DMs.

00:37:14.302 --> 00:37:16.342
Isabel Alvarez Arata: You can ask whatever you want.

00:37:16.342 --> 00:37:19.542
Isabel Alvarez Arata: You, I guarantee you I have a resource for you.

00:37:19.862 --> 00:37:21.462
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I have many friends in the industry.

00:37:21.462 --> 00:37:22.742
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I've been doing this for what?

00:37:22.742 --> 00:37:24.362
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Almost 20 years now.

00:37:24.362 --> 00:37:30.582
Isabel Alvarez Arata: So I know a few people and like there are so many great people like Kara, like the Pet Parenting Reset, Jessica.

00:37:30.582 --> 00:37:35.782
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I know that Kim Gauthier is a great person to follow.

00:37:35.782 --> 00:37:39.622
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I forget her handle right now, but she's...

00:37:39.622 --> 00:37:40.802
Kara Rose: Keep the tail wagging.

00:37:40.802 --> 00:37:44.222
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Keep the tail wagging, but her handle on Insta is different.

00:37:44.222 --> 00:37:46.562
Isabel Alvarez Arata: It's like Raw Feeder Life.

00:37:46.782 --> 00:37:51.742
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And then Scott also with Raw Feeding 101 is wonderful.

00:37:51.742 --> 00:37:55.902
Isabel Alvarez Arata: So like these are just four people off the top of my head, but there are so many people that can help you.

00:37:55.902 --> 00:38:05.782
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And one of the things that I think that people don't know is that you're not going to like berate them for feeding kibble or for having to put convenience first.

00:38:05.782 --> 00:38:12.322
Isabel Alvarez Arata: What do you say when somebody says, I want to do better, but like I don't have the time to cook and I don't have the money.

00:38:12.322 --> 00:38:15.142
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And like what ingredients do you tell them?

00:38:15.262 --> 00:38:19.942
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Okay, do this, this and this and like we're at least in a better way.

00:38:19.942 --> 00:38:20.342
Kara Rose: Yeah.

00:38:20.342 --> 00:38:22.742
Kara Rose: So I think it's really important to meet people where they're at, right?

00:38:22.742 --> 00:38:25.122
Kara Rose: You're going to catch more flies with honey than vinegar.

00:38:25.122 --> 00:38:32.622
Kara Rose: And I remember myself years before I actually was ready to switch to fresh food.

00:38:32.622 --> 00:38:40.002
Kara Rose: My friend said, hey, you know, Lee Copper is obviously not doing better on the methods that you're conventional that is proposing.

00:38:40.002 --> 00:38:44.122
Kara Rose: Have you ever thought about feeding him, you know, human food, people food?

00:38:44.122 --> 00:38:49.042
Kara Rose: And I dismissed her and I was like, he's a dog, he doesn't eat people food, right?

00:38:49.702 --> 00:38:50.562
Kara Rose: I was not ready.

00:38:50.562 --> 00:38:52.802
Kara Rose: We call that the pre-contemplation stage.

00:38:52.802 --> 00:39:02.082
Kara Rose: Once you're in the calculation stage and you're getting ready and you want to make that change, I would say if you had to do, you know, budget will always be a problem.

00:39:02.082 --> 00:39:02.982
Kara Rose: Things are expensive.

00:39:03.422 --> 00:39:10.242
Kara Rose: Try to follow maybe like the Dirty Dozen or the Clean 15, so you can go on the, what is it?

00:39:10.242 --> 00:39:11.302
Kara Rose: EWG.

00:39:11.302 --> 00:39:12.682
Isabel Alvarez Arata: EWG, yep.

00:39:12.682 --> 00:39:14.002
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Yep, yep, yep.

00:39:14.002 --> 00:39:16.222
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Who's that cat that just made a cameo?

00:39:16.222 --> 00:39:18.202
Kara Rose: Yeah, this is Oliver.

00:39:18.202 --> 00:39:19.882
Kara Rose: He's the one that pissed earlier.

00:39:19.882 --> 00:39:25.882
Kara Rose: I call him my tiny tumor because he's constantly attached to me and he's the one who just knocked over my camera.

00:39:27.582 --> 00:39:30.402
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I was like, where is she going with this tumor business?

00:39:31.242 --> 00:39:33.702
Kara Rose: My tiny tumor is always attached.

00:39:33.702 --> 00:39:39.402
Kara Rose: But yeah, so dirty dozen, clean 15, so you just try to get the dirty dozen always organic.

00:39:39.402 --> 00:39:44.982
Kara Rose: If you had to reach for a cleaner option, organic for those dozen.

00:39:44.982 --> 00:39:46.822
Kara Rose: Then again, it doesn't have to be complicated.

00:39:46.822 --> 00:39:48.842
Kara Rose: Come here, table scrap.

00:39:48.842 --> 00:39:56.382
Kara Rose: I have my veggie mix every month is a month of me saving table scraps for vegetables in the freezer.

00:39:56.382 --> 00:40:10.502
Kara Rose: The bottoms of mushrooms, if you don't like to cut the bottom, like the stems of your mushrooms, the bottom part of the broccoli instead of the florets, the tops of your carrots, the skins of your carrots when you peel them, the tops of your beets, beets greens, those are really healthy.

00:40:10.502 --> 00:40:13.682
Kara Rose: Everything, literally anything except onions.

00:40:13.682 --> 00:40:17.202
Kara Rose: You don't feed them onions or racketeer meat, anything and great.

00:40:17.202 --> 00:40:20.762
Kara Rose: Everything else they can have, including garlic, but that's like a whole separate podcast.

00:40:20.762 --> 00:40:22.042
Isabel Alvarez Arata: That's a whole other thing.

00:40:22.042 --> 00:40:27.242
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Feed garlic at your own risk because it's controversial and we can't stake a stand either way, just in case.

00:40:27.642 --> 00:40:35.922
Isabel Alvarez Arata: But there are many people who successfully feed garlic to their pets that is on you to decide whether or not you want to do your research and dive in.

00:40:35.922 --> 00:40:41.902
Isabel Alvarez Arata: But okay, so yes, outside of grapes, macadamia nuts and onions.

00:40:41.902 --> 00:40:43.862
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Onions, yeah, and chocolate.

00:40:43.862 --> 00:40:44.582
Isabel Alvarez Arata: You know what?

00:40:44.582 --> 00:40:46.302
Isabel Alvarez Arata: No candy in general, right?

00:40:46.302 --> 00:40:52.702
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Like candy is just off limits because they don't need that sugar any more than we do, guys.

00:40:52.702 --> 00:40:56.722
Isabel Alvarez Arata: So like if it's not healthy for you to eat it, don't give it to your dog or your cat.

00:40:57.202 --> 00:41:03.422
Kara Rose: Eating it more potentially dangerous as if they have xylitol in there because that is more toxic to them.

00:41:03.422 --> 00:41:10.702
Kara Rose: I actually just did a really great blog post this morning about that, all about the pitfalls of having Halloween candy in your house.

00:41:10.702 --> 00:41:12.342
Kara Rose: Definitely want to be careful with that.

00:41:12.342 --> 00:41:18.122
Isabel Alvarez Arata: So we think it's not as sugary, so now we're going to give it and xylitol will kill your dog.

00:41:18.122 --> 00:41:20.742
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And you need a smaller amount than chocolate.

00:41:20.742 --> 00:41:22.082
Isabel Alvarez Arata: So we're all aware of chocolate.

00:41:22.082 --> 00:41:30.922
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And most of the chocolate that we have has so little cocoa in it, that the chances of your pet, unless they're tiny, having a big reaction are small.

00:41:30.922 --> 00:41:37.762
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Unless you have an Ecuadorian 90% cocoa kind of bar, then don't do that.

00:41:37.762 --> 00:41:42.302
Isabel Alvarez Arata: But xylitol, tiny bit, no bueno.

00:41:42.622 --> 00:41:46.782
Isabel Alvarez Arata: So check out your blog for more on xylitol if you haven't heard about it.

00:41:46.782 --> 00:41:51.122
Isabel Alvarez Arata: The sneaky thing about xylitol is that it's in stuff that you think your dog won't want.

00:41:51.122 --> 00:41:53.322
Isabel Alvarez Arata: But first of all, a lot of dogs will want anything.

00:41:54.002 --> 00:41:57.182
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Second of all, it's in peanut butter now.

00:41:57.182 --> 00:42:03.222
Isabel Alvarez Arata: So it might be something you literally pick up thinking it's just peanuts and oil, and it's not.

00:42:03.222 --> 00:42:11.782
Isabel Alvarez Arata: It's in peanut butter now, and it's going to make its way into other things because it's a sugar alcohol that's keeping us sugar-free but then making.

00:42:11.782 --> 00:42:15.622
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Do you eat xylitol or do you have reservations for humans?

00:42:15.622 --> 00:42:16.262
Kara Rose: I don't.

00:42:16.262 --> 00:42:17.122
Kara Rose: I won't do it.

00:42:17.122 --> 00:42:20.582
Kara Rose: And it's also being labeled differently now.

00:42:20.762 --> 00:42:24.262
Kara Rose: So I think birch sugar, I think is a cool club.

00:42:24.262 --> 00:42:25.262
Kara Rose: Yeah, they're hiding it.

00:42:25.302 --> 00:42:30.262
Kara Rose: And so these artificial sweeteners are just not good for you.

00:42:30.262 --> 00:42:37.842
Kara Rose: It might not cause the insulin spike that sugar does, but still overall, it's just not a natural substance.

00:42:37.842 --> 00:42:40.002
Kara Rose: It's not made by nature.

00:42:40.002 --> 00:42:43.222
Kara Rose: It's not something that your body wants or needs.

00:42:43.222 --> 00:42:44.182
Kara Rose: Trust me.

00:42:44.182 --> 00:42:48.202
Kara Rose: If you want to reach for something that has sugar in it, go for a natural sugar source.

00:42:48.722 --> 00:42:59.302
Kara Rose: Berries are a great natural, lower in glycemic index, all of the antioxidants that you can eat for yourself and you can feed to your pets.

00:42:59.302 --> 00:43:06.402
Kara Rose: So if you have a little bit of a sugar craving, go for something like that, something natural, noxilothal and also peanut butter, almond butter.

00:43:06.402 --> 00:43:12.022
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Peanut butter is no longer the great treat that it was sold to us as in 2005.

00:43:12.022 --> 00:43:18.642
Isabel Alvarez Arata: So for all of us, I feel like peanut butter, and you can do your own research on that, but it is not the healthiest thing.

00:43:18.642 --> 00:43:24.302
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I gave my kid peanut butter yesterday and it was a jar of JIF.

00:43:24.522 --> 00:43:31.522
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I was like, because we had it for the hurricane in Orlando, and I was like, I'm not going to throw this away.

00:43:31.522 --> 00:43:35.222
Isabel Alvarez Arata: So I gave it to them as a snack with fringe, Ritz crackers.

00:43:35.222 --> 00:43:35.842
Isabel Alvarez Arata: They love it.

00:43:35.842 --> 00:43:37.062
Isabel Alvarez Arata: They absolutely love it.

00:43:37.062 --> 00:43:41.262
Isabel Alvarez Arata: But honestly, if it falls on the floor, I'm not letting my dogs eat that.

00:43:41.262 --> 00:43:50.562
Isabel Alvarez Arata: My dogs eat better than my kids just because I can't control my kids that well, and hopefully my kids will grow out of this one stage in their life.

00:43:50.562 --> 00:43:55.602
Isabel Alvarez Arata: My kids hopefully have 85 years to balance out their diets.

00:43:55.602 --> 00:44:01.522
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Dogs, cats don't, so we really want to keep them here as long as we can, giving them the best stuff.

00:44:01.522 --> 00:44:08.122
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And they don't have the ability to open the door of the fridge and make themselves a peanut butter and bacon sandwich.

00:44:08.122 --> 00:44:11.282
Isabel Alvarez Arata: So we really do control what they eat.

00:44:11.282 --> 00:44:18.222
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And we should use that because as a mom, I can't control what my kids eat as much as I would like to.

00:44:18.222 --> 00:44:19.062
Kara Rose: I'm sorry.

00:44:19.062 --> 00:44:20.742
Kara Rose: Is this a Texas thing?

00:44:20.742 --> 00:44:22.702
Kara Rose: Peanut butter and bacon?

00:44:24.062 --> 00:44:27.882
Isabel Alvarez Arata: No, it's just that I imagine, so this is something I've always used as an example.

00:44:27.882 --> 00:44:36.782
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I imagine that if we had like a dog on death row who had to have like his final meal, I feel like he would choose a peanut butter and bacon sandwich.

00:44:36.782 --> 00:44:39.222
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I just, it's just a hunch.

00:44:39.222 --> 00:44:41.062
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Yeah, it's just a hunch.

00:44:41.062 --> 00:44:48.842
Kara Rose: Although I do challenge you, anybody who's watching, go to your cabinet, pick up your peanut butter, look it over, comment the first ingredient.

00:44:48.842 --> 00:44:51.142
Kara Rose: Is it peanuts or is it sugar?

00:44:51.142 --> 00:44:52.462
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Yes.

00:44:52.462 --> 00:44:53.382
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Yes, exactly.

00:44:53.382 --> 00:44:57.882
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And that's why they're replacing it with xylitol so that it tastes sweet.

00:44:57.882 --> 00:45:02.822
Isabel Alvarez Arata: But you know, the parenting reset says, dentists love selling stuff with xylitol too.

00:45:02.822 --> 00:45:05.782
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Yes, it's supposed to have benefits for us for our teeth.

00:45:05.782 --> 00:45:06.822
Isabel Alvarez Arata: But I'm kind of old school.

00:45:06.822 --> 00:45:09.482
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I'm just like brush your teeth twice a day, floss.

00:45:09.482 --> 00:45:14.482
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I feel like you don't need to be chewing gum to make yourself healthier.

00:45:14.482 --> 00:45:23.102
Isabel Alvarez Arata: My dentist is a biological dentist and she does have stuff with xylitol in it at her practice, but it's sparingly.

00:45:23.102 --> 00:45:30.762
Isabel Alvarez Arata: It's not like, you know, chew on this gum every single day and you'll get less cavities because that doesn't really make any sense.

00:45:30.762 --> 00:45:37.762
Kara Rose: No, and don't have that gum in your house or anywhere where your pets can get to it because three pieces of xylitol chewing gum is toxic.

00:45:38.402 --> 00:45:43.742
Isabel Alvarez Arata: So, yes, lock it up or put it in the car because in my house, we're not allowed xylitol.

00:45:43.742 --> 00:45:48.542
Isabel Alvarez Arata: My husband chews that gum of which I speak and it has to stay in the car.

00:45:48.542 --> 00:45:49.802
Isabel Alvarez Arata: It's not allowed in the house.

00:45:49.802 --> 00:45:52.622
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I did get something with xylitol recently.

00:45:52.622 --> 00:45:54.422
Isabel Alvarez Arata: It was like maybe dental stuff.

00:45:54.422 --> 00:45:55.202
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I can't remember.

00:45:55.202 --> 00:45:59.782
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And it was and it was like one of those things where I'm like, I have to be so careful with this.

00:45:59.782 --> 00:46:02.482
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Like I have to make sure because I have a cat too.

00:46:02.482 --> 00:46:08.802
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And they say that it's worse for dogs and cats, but they don't really know because so many cats are more responsible with what they take in.

00:46:08.802 --> 00:46:09.002
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Right.

00:46:09.002 --> 00:46:14.302
Isabel Alvarez Arata: So like we don't necessarily know as much about cats in general on every topic.

00:46:14.302 --> 00:46:17.202
Kara Rose: Well, agreed for placement for xylitol.

00:46:17.202 --> 00:46:17.342
Kara Rose: Right.

00:46:17.342 --> 00:46:23.062
Kara Rose: If we're talking about xylitol for teeth, and obviously pets can't have that, raw meat bones are great for teeth.

00:46:23.062 --> 00:46:23.702
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Bones.

00:46:23.702 --> 00:46:24.182
Isabel Alvarez Arata: All right.

00:46:24.182 --> 00:46:25.702
Isabel Alvarez Arata: So that's the perfect segue.

00:46:25.702 --> 00:46:27.402
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Let's take a drink.

00:46:27.402 --> 00:46:27.782
Kara Rose: All right.

00:46:27.782 --> 00:46:30.422
Isabel Alvarez Arata: How can my audience learn more about you Kara?

00:46:31.202 --> 00:46:34.862
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Where can we find out about all the things that you offer Pet Parents?

00:46:34.862 --> 00:46:35.942
Kara Rose: Well, I have a website.

00:46:35.942 --> 00:46:41.942
Kara Rose: It is www.rawpawadventures.com, plural, adventures.

00:46:41.942 --> 00:46:43.542
Kara Rose: That is my handle across everything.

00:46:43.542 --> 00:46:46.902
Kara Rose: So TikTok, Facebook, Instagram, Raw Paw Adventures.

00:46:46.902 --> 00:46:52.142
Kara Rose: I have definitely a couple of things that I feel are worthwhile if you're going to highlight on my website.

00:46:52.142 --> 00:46:58.002
Kara Rose: The calculator is one, first ever calculator to have cook and raw options for Pet Parents, which is super exciting.

00:46:58.822 --> 00:47:09.602
Kara Rose: I also am, today is the 31st, so in like 12 more hours, I will be dropping a free May webinar that I will send out that you can find out for its 20 minutes long.

00:47:09.602 --> 00:47:20.022
Kara Rose: You can learn all about the history of Fipple, why it got created, what goes into it, and what trends we started seeing in our pet health after Fipple became mainstream.

00:47:20.022 --> 00:47:25.062
Kara Rose: And then I'm going to be doing a course, a Back to the Basics Transition Your Dog to Fresh Food course.

00:47:25.062 --> 00:47:27.002
Kara Rose: It's a four week course.

00:47:27.662 --> 00:47:29.602
Kara Rose: We eat once a week for an hour.

00:47:29.602 --> 00:47:35.302
Kara Rose: We learn about the basic of nutrition for your dog and how to transition them and do DIY at home.

00:47:35.302 --> 00:47:37.602
Kara Rose: And that starts the first week of December.

00:47:37.602 --> 00:47:38.422
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Amazing.

00:47:38.422 --> 00:47:39.142
Isabel Alvarez Arata: All right.

00:47:39.142 --> 00:47:39.822
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Well, awesome.

00:47:39.822 --> 00:47:44.162
Isabel Alvarez Arata: So I want to propose a toast to you for being my guest and for being so awesome.

00:47:44.162 --> 00:47:46.042
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Cheers.

00:47:46.042 --> 00:47:47.142
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Thank you.

00:47:47.142 --> 00:47:48.082
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Of course.

00:47:48.082 --> 00:47:56.442
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I'm so excited you agreed to do this with no experience under my belt and leaving some kind of banner on for most of this show.

00:47:56.662 --> 00:47:58.102
Isabel Alvarez Arata: But we made it work.

00:47:58.102 --> 00:47:58.862
Isabel Alvarez Arata: We'll get it there.

00:47:58.862 --> 00:48:02.382
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And then I want to propose a toast to my executive producer, Mark Winter.

00:48:02.382 --> 00:48:03.602
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Thank you, Mark.

00:48:03.602 --> 00:48:07.582
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And to our audience for joining us for these conversations.

00:48:07.582 --> 00:48:18.462
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I love to bring you silly, fun conversations about pets where you learn a little something, but you also get to know amazing people that I like to call my friends in the industry.

00:48:18.862 --> 00:48:23.342
Isabel Alvarez Arata: So here is to a life covered in pet hair, because there's no better way to live.

00:48:24.022 --> 00:48:30.062
Isabel Alvarez Arata: To learn more about covered in pet hair, please visit coveredinpethair.com or petliferadio.com.

00:48:30.062 --> 00:48:44.982
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And don't forget to like, subscribe, do all the things on YouTube, and rate us on any podcasting platform that you tune into because it will help get this episode to so many other pet lovers, boozy pet lovers are my people.

00:48:44.982 --> 00:48:47.702
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And I thank you so much for tuning in.

00:48:47.862 --> 00:48:53.462
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And if right now you have a question for Kara, you have time to ask it.

00:48:53.462 --> 00:48:58.682
Isabel Alvarez Arata: But I will say for those on the podcast, thank you for watching and I'll see you next time.

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