Covered In Pet Hair

Join Isabel and guests, Kristina and Brian, for a lively conversation about how art and cats collided in the lives of these cat-loving innovators. A family affair that included Kristina and Brian's resourceful dads and their son, Jackson, Frame Your Feline is a work of art and a work in progress. The couple has thought of everything and continues to innovate their alternative to a cat tree with new features, finishes, and backgrounds. Get to know these two performers, creatives, and cat-obsessed entrepreneurs as we all sip on something yummy. Enjoy the show!

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BIO:

Brian Vermeire (SAG-AFTRA) wears many hats in the Entertainment Industry as a writer, producer, executive producer, host, actor and voice over artist for various networks/production companies such as FOX, The Disney Channel, The Family Channel, Vin DiBona Productions, WRINtv and Lumiq Studios.

Brian is also a respected stand-up comedian known in the Los Angeles market as the "sharp and witty comedian with a 'late night-style' talk show host appeal." Brian performs stand-up comedy which often "hysterically lampoons current events with amazingly twisted, skewed and off-kilter punchlines." You can catch Brian playing to crowds at major comedy clubs such as The Comedy Store, Caroline's and The Ice House.

Outside of performing, Brian is the CEO and Co-Founder of Holdon Log which is the leader in business and marketing products and services for the Entertainment Industry. Their products and services include the popular paper-based Holdon Log Logbooks at HoldonLog.com, as well as PerformerTrack - the standard online application to manage your entire performing career at PerformerTrack.com, and ShowBiz Sender the streamlined promotional e-mail service created just for those who work in the Entertainment Industry at ShowBizSender.com. Holdon Log is also the company behind Industry Deal at IndustryDeal.com - where you can find daily Deals at 50-95% off for products and services geared just to Entertainment Industry Professionals.

Brian has traveled as a seminar leader or guest speaker for SAG Conservatory, SAG Foundation, The Actors Center, National Conservatory of Dramatic Arts, VOICE 2010, The LA Femme International Film Festival, The Image Awards, The Actor's Network, Acting Success Now, The Actors Fund, Children in Film, BizParentz, Actors Creative Workshop, The Sanford Meisner Studio, The ShowBiz Expo, Creative Actors Alliance, Women In Film and other numerous respected performing organizations.

Kristina Hughes aka 'Fancy Comedy' is a fast-rising rant comedian who embodies the sweet shell of Molly Shannon... but has the wit and biting humor of Joan Rivers. As a former 'Miss Connecticut USA', Kristina thinks stand-up is a lot like pageants, "but without all the fake boobs". Rightly so, Kristina has been dubbed "The Queen of Fancy with the Flair for the Swear". Her irreverent humor causes contagious laughter in well-known comedic hot spots such as The Ice House, The Comedy Store, Flappers Comedy Club and more! When goodlooks dove-tail with unfiltered sass you get 'FANCY COMEDY'.

She does more than stand-up, she stands-out!

Kristina also wears hats as a producer, writer, host, actor, voiceover artist, hand model, feline enthusiast and mom to Jackson Asher.

Transcript:

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Announcer: This is Pet Life Radio.

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Announcer: Let's talk pets.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Welcome to Covered in Pet Hair, a boozy show for pet lovers on Pet Life Radio.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I'm your host, Isabel Alvarez Arata, and today I have the pleasure of having a drink and a chat with a couple that has revolutionized the cat tree.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I will tell you all about them and introduce you as soon as we come back from these messages from our sponsors.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Hi, I'm Isabel Alvarez Arata, the host of Covered In Pet Hair.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: You know the expression, cats have nine lives?

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Announcer: Let's Talk Pets on petliferadio.com.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Welcome back to Covered In Pet Hair.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I'm your host, Isabel Alvarez Arata, and today I have the pleasure of having a drink and a chat with pet parents, inventors, innovators and entrepreneurs.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: They are rescue advocates and volunteers.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: They are fosters, foodies, wine snobs and craft beer gurus.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: They are copy and tea drinkers, desert hikers, East coasters who currently live north of LA.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: They are cat mom and dad, two rescue cats by the names of 2D, Winnie, Mojave, Poppy, Holly, Jolly, Skipper, Bodie.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: They are currently fostering Miko and Emma and a little kitten that has a lot of names.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Dove maybe, Lily maybe, Itty Bitty maybe.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: We'll see how that pans out.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: They're also parents to Jack, the cat whom I was under the impression was a feline, but he's actually a human and he is seven years old and he is wonderful and he has just made my acquaintance and we were fast friends.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: They are the founders of Frame Your Feline.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: They are Brian Vermeire, like the artist, which we'll talk about later.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: And Kristina Hughes.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: She says Hughes without the bank account, right?

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: So how are Hughes without the bank account?

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Kristina Hughes: Yeah, exactly.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: That's what I meant to say.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: So welcome guys.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: It's so great to have you on the show.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: It is very exciting to meet fellow art lovers, cat lovers, wine drinkers over Zoom.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: So I'm super excited to meet you guys.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Before we get into all the things that make you special, which I've already kind of like made up my mind that I think you're amazing and that your product is amazing, I want to introduce our drinking game today.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: So anybody at home participating in our drinking game, make sure you're over 21 in the US to partake.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: But anytime you hear this word, the secret word is Jack.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Take a drink of whatever you're enjoying, but please be over 21 again in the US.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: If you're elsewhere in there a little more lenient, then go with that.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: But also never drink and drive and always drink responsibly.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: So you were chilling something before we started recording.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Tell me about that.

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Brian Vermeire: Ooh, yes.

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Brian Vermeire: G'day is bev'ry, kids.

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Brian Vermeire: G'day for havin ourselves.

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Brian Vermeire: Well, this is me, Kristina's hat.

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Brian Vermeire: And now, I blended together a wonderful blackberry peach vodka smash.

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Brian Vermeire: And let me tell you, there's a hint of maple syrup to bring out that sweetness just a bit.

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Brian Vermeire: So good and healthy too.

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Kristina Hughes: Full of antioxidants.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Kristina, are you havin a stiff drink to compete with that?

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Kristina Hughes: I did yoga today, so I am going very, like, health conscious.

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Kristina Hughes: But I, actually, that sounds really good.

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Kristina Hughes: I think you're gonna pick, like, a dirty martini.

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Kristina Hughes: Right, you know, I mean, on the floor.

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Kristina Hughes: So I'm gonna have, it's the jasmine and blueberry flavor from our friends at Owls Brew.

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Kristina Hughes: It's a tea cocktail.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I've never had a tea, I mean, I've made tea cocktails at home, but I've never had a canned tea cocktail.

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Brian Vermeire: And this, and Bodie.

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Kristina Hughes: A little fancy slim can.

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Brian Vermeire: Bodie just had a gin and tuna and really good.

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Brian Vermeire: Yes, mm-mm-mm.

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Kristina Hughes: Right, Audie?

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Brian Vermeire: Yeah, that was a joke.

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Kristina Hughes: I know, no.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I've had Arden Moore on the show ages ago, and I made her tell me what kind of drinks different cat breeds would like.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: And she was like, just make sure people know that they, their pets should never drink alcohol.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I'm like, the people who tune into my show know that they're not sharing their booze.

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Kristina Hughes: Like that's it.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: They're just not sharing their booze.

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Brian Vermeire: No, I had to do the disclaimer.

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Brian Vermeire: I had to do the disclaimer because I know we're cat lovers.

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Brian Vermeire: Somebody in the chat is going to go a little bonky.

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Brian Vermeire: Okay.

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Brian Vermeire: No, he's drunk.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: The internet.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Yes, the cats do not get to partake, guys.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: They just don't unless we make a latte.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: And then maybe I'll let them I'll let Ben go drink the or like lap up the the milk when I put it in my little frother.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: He likes to lap it up before I put it in my latte.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: So that's the only part of sharing that I do with my cat.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I know some people think that's gross.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Tastes better with cat spit in it, I say.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: So I'm having a glass of Pinot Noir because today is Friday and Friday is pizza day at my house.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: And pizza and wine, red wine are just perfect together.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: So cheers, guys.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Thank you for being my guest.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Cheers.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Cheers.

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Kristina Hughes: It wasn't a glass.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I cannot wait to get to know you guys and your story.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: But before we dig into how you even started a business called Frame Your Feline and what it is for those who are not familiar, I want to play a game with you guys called Frames and Felines, where I get to know your favorite frames, artists, art and felines.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Obviously cats.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Are you guys ready to play?

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Brian Vermeire: I'm ready to go.

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Brian Vermeire: Let's do it.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: All right.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: You guys can answer in whatever order you want, but I want to know from each one of you, who is your favorite artist?

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Brian Vermeire: Vermeire.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Oh, of course.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Because he's a relative, a distant relative.

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Brian Vermeire: A way distant relative.

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Brian Vermeire: So distant, he spells it differently.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Exactly.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I mean, yeah, you had to go on the DL because he was so famous.

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Brian Vermeire: Now, I actually, I do like Van Gogh, and I'm not pandering to you because of your cat, but I really like Van Gogh.

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Brian Vermeire: I saw-

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Brian Vermeire: What's it or Van Gogh exhibit?

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Brian Vermeire: I went to the Van Gogh exhibit over at LACMA, which is the LA County Museum of Art, right?

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Brian Vermeire: Kristina, who's your favorite?

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Kristina Hughes: Well, I don't cry when I get in a room with any of the masters, like at the Getty D, like the big collections, but I'm going to go with somebody you haven't heard of that you should look up.

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Kristina Hughes: And this gentleman, Brian knows him.

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Kristina Hughes: He lives in Pasadena.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Oh, you're right.

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Kristina Hughes: Why don't I-

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Kristina Hughes: Henton Nelson.

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Kristina Hughes: As you were thinking of your laugh.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I mean, so into yourself.

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Brian Vermeire: Henton Nelson.

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Brian Vermeire: Amazing art.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: He's super cool.

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Kristina Hughes: We've gone to meet and greets with him.

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Kristina Hughes: Brian has hung out with him with Steve Martin was Steve there that just renamed drop.

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Kristina Hughes: He was out there that day.

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Brian Vermeire: No, but Steve collects his artwork and yeah.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: They have these little artists passed down to Nelson.

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Brian Vermeire: Look him up, Henton Nelson.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Oh my gosh, I can't wait.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I will absolutely look him up.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Okay, so are you guys more of a modern art or like classic art type of vibe?

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Kristina Hughes: Well, I can answer for you.

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Brian Vermeire: Go ahead, what?

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Kristina Hughes: I think Brian is more of a classical type of art connoisseur because a lot of things he'll see thrown up at the wall and he's like, I could do that.

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Kristina Hughes: Or a painted where we just saw that at the Hammer Museum when we went to go get our teeth cleaned across the street from our dentists.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: But there's like a piece of white paper canvas.

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Brian Vermeire: There's another artist that failed to mention, Shag.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Oh, very Palm Springs.

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Brian Vermeire: He does.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Okay.

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Brian Vermeire: Palm Springs-y inspired illustrations.

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Brian Vermeire: And they are, so Shag and Kent Nelson.

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Brian Vermeire: There you go.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Okay, cool, cool.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Okay.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: And then what about you, Kristina?

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Are you more into the modern art, contemporary arts?

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I love art in general.

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Kristina Hughes: My dad's a big rock and roll art collector.

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Kristina Hughes: For me, it depends.

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Kristina Hughes: I look at something and where I get an emotional reaction, that's when I know I love that piece.

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Kristina Hughes: It could be anything.

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Kristina Hughes: Because when we lived in LA, there was one, the United States of Panic or something.

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Kristina Hughes: And it was this very modern map.

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Kristina Hughes: And we took these pictures.

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Kristina Hughes: It was really funny.

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Kristina Hughes: And I'm like, I love that.

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Kristina Hughes: That's really cool.

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Kristina Hughes: I like that political spin.

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Kristina Hughes: But then I have a beautiful painting I got at a second hand store from some really old lady who was on a painting expedition up here.

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Kristina Hughes: And she painted a Joshua tree because we live amongst the Joshua tree.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Oh my God, I spent $7.50 on this piece of art.

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Brian Vermeire: Way too much.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Oh, that's amazing.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I love a steel.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I love an art steel.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Okay.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: How about your favorite cat breed, bringing it back to the feline?

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Brian Vermeire: Oh, come on.

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Brian Vermeire: A British Shorthair.

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Brian Vermeire: Yeah.

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Brian Vermeire: We had never had one, but I really want one.

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Kristina Hughes: Haven't had one yet.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: But our son is named after a British Shorthair.

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Brian Vermeire: But I always have an affinity towards tabbies.

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Brian Vermeire: So, you know.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Okay.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: How about you, Kristina?

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Kristina Hughes: There is something magical about cats who are part Siamese, like Bodhi and Winnie, who have the cross-eyed blue eyes.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: There's just nothing about that, right, Bodhi?

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: He's kind of snoring behind me right now.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I love that you can kind of see his fur, his coloring and the art all in one.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Yeah.

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Brian Vermeire: Here, let's go on a little tour.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Oh my God.

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Brian Vermeire: Can you see him?

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Yeah.

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Brian Vermeire: Hold on.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Let me pin to you so I can speak and not ruin this image.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Oh my goodness.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: You are a piece of work, you are a work of art as I call.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: The reason Van Gogh is Van Gogh is because he came with the name Van.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Him and his siblings had been named after music, like people in music.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Maybe Van Halen.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Yeah, I would assume they didn't really know.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: His sister was Greta.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: His sister was Greta Van Morrison.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I don't know.

00:10:50.205 --> 00:10:52.425
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Greta apparently is like a punk rock band.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I don't know.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I did not like the name Van.

00:10:56.605 --> 00:10:57.545
Isabel Alvarez Arata: That doesn't speak to me.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I drive a van, so the kids were like Van, like our car.

00:11:01.085 --> 00:11:04.265
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And I was like, no, but then everybody wanted to keep Van.

00:11:04.265 --> 00:11:10.525
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And I was like, I mean, I want to give them a say, but also he's this gorgeous Russian blue looking thing.

00:11:10.525 --> 00:11:13.885
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Obviously, he's a domestic short hair, but he is so beautiful.

00:11:13.885 --> 00:11:15.365
Isabel Alvarez Arata: He's got that beautiful blue.

00:11:15.365 --> 00:11:17.525
Isabel Alvarez Arata: So it's like Van Gogh, you're Van Gogh.

00:11:17.525 --> 00:11:18.965
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And then everybody can call him Van.

00:11:18.965 --> 00:11:19.765
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Nobody calls him anything.

00:11:19.765 --> 00:11:20.845
Isabel Alvarez Arata: We call him Kitten.

00:11:20.845 --> 00:11:22.665
Isabel Alvarez Arata: But that's really his name.

00:11:22.665 --> 00:11:29.845
Isabel Alvarez Arata: So I'm going to go with, for me, not that anybody asked, Russian blue is my favorite Capri.

00:11:29.845 --> 00:11:33.305
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I don't know, there's something about that coloring of their fur.

00:11:33.305 --> 00:11:35.325
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I know that he's not a purebred Russian blue.

00:11:35.325 --> 00:11:38.845
Isabel Alvarez Arata: He's just a gray rescue, but he looks just like them.

00:11:38.845 --> 00:11:39.765
Isabel Alvarez Arata: So anyway.

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Brian Vermeire: Have you ever had a white Russian?

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I love a white Russian too.

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Kristina Hughes: I love those.

00:11:44.225 --> 00:11:50.545
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I actually just, I just put out an episode today where I'm drinking a, like an Amaretto Russian.

00:11:50.545 --> 00:11:53.525
Isabel Alvarez Arata: It's like a white Russian, but like with Amaretto instead of vodka.

00:11:54.045 --> 00:11:55.365
Isabel Alvarez Arata: So yeah, delicious.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Okay.

00:11:55.825 --> 00:11:58.625
Isabel Alvarez Arata: So you guys have talked a lot about museums.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: What is your favorite art museum?

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: It could be anywhere in the world.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Ooh, he's doing this, speak this.

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Brian Vermeire: I don't want to steal the thunder.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Well, yeah.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: What's your favorite museum?

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Kristina Hughes: You're all like, oh man.

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Kristina Hughes: Well, I was at the Louvre on Valentine's Day, many, many, many, many, many, many years ago.

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Kristina Hughes: We were on a high school field trip and we bought a dozen red tulips, my girlfriend and I, and we found hot guys at the museum and we'd go here, happy Valentine's Day.

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Kristina Hughes: Happy Valentine's Day.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: So there is something magical about being there.

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Kristina Hughes: But I sometimes find out when you've already gone there and you go back, then you're like, oh, it wasn't that great.

00:12:36.425 --> 00:12:40.245
Isabel Alvarez Arata: But I love the Louvre, but I've been to so many museums.

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Kristina Hughes: I love the Decor Vita Museum in Massachusetts.

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Kristina Hughes: It's a very small sculpture museum.

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Brian Vermeire: There's the Sex Museum on Hollywood Boulevard, which I find rather intriguing and interesting.

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Brian Vermeire: What?

00:12:53.165 --> 00:12:54.765
Brian Vermeire: Different show, honey, different show.

00:12:54.765 --> 00:12:56.465
Kristina Hughes: Different show, different show.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: This is not a family show.

00:12:58.925 --> 00:13:02.105
Isabel Alvarez Arata: It can be, but I think we just kind of went over that.

00:13:02.105 --> 00:13:02.945
Isabel Alvarez Arata: But you know what?

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I've never had the courage to go into those kinds of museums, so you'll have to give me a little play by play or a little rundown, a little summary of it.

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Brian Vermeire: We're gonna do Covered In Pet Hair after dark.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I love that, I'm down.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: All right, so favorite cat celebrity.

00:13:18.505 --> 00:13:19.725
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I know you guys know a lot of them.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Who's your favorite cat celebrity?

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I mean, are there cat celebrities that go back in history?

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I mean, I guess Cleopatra is a cat celebrity.

00:13:28.505 --> 00:13:29.505
Brian Vermeire: Grumpy Cat.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Grumpy Cat.

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Brian Vermeire: I really love Grumpy Cat.

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Brian Vermeire: I remember Grumpy Cat.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Of course I remember Grumpy Cat.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: When you said celebrity, I went to a famous person who's owned a lot of cat.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: It could be a cat, it could be a person that's involved in the cat world.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: It could be Jackson Galaxy or somebody like that.

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Kristina Hughes: I instantly go to Freddie Mercury because I know he had a gazillion cats and Jackson has been Freddie Mercury for Halloween.

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Brian Vermeire: And who else loves cats?

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Brian Vermeire: Ricky Gervais.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Ricky Gervais.

00:14:01.065 --> 00:14:07.925
Isabel Alvarez Arata: He is so hilarious and he is so British in so many ways, but I love how much he loves pets.

00:14:07.925 --> 00:14:09.085
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Love, love, love it.

00:14:09.085 --> 00:14:16.305
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I just shared something on Covered In Pet Hair, a little skit that he did where somebody is coming up to him and he is like, why is your dog off leash?

00:14:16.305 --> 00:14:20.585
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Obviously in British accents and Ricky Gervais calls him all these names.

00:14:20.585 --> 00:14:22.365
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And it just sounds so funny.

00:14:22.365 --> 00:14:27.765
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And I totally be the person going up to them and being like, why is your dog off leash?

00:14:27.765 --> 00:14:33.505
Isabel Alvarez Arata: But if Ricky Gervais insulted me in that accent, I would be like, bow down, bow down.

00:14:33.505 --> 00:14:34.225
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I'll take it.

00:14:34.225 --> 00:14:35.285
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I'll take it.

00:14:35.325 --> 00:14:35.825
Isabel Alvarez Arata: All right.

00:14:35.825 --> 00:14:42.785
Isabel Alvarez Arata: So favorite cat behavior, like something that you could watch all the time, that is art to you.

00:14:42.785 --> 00:14:44.425
Brian Vermeire: That's like art to us.

00:14:44.705 --> 00:14:45.545
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Yes.

00:14:45.545 --> 00:14:47.165
Brian Vermeire: It's mesmerizing to me.

00:14:47.165 --> 00:14:55.125
Brian Vermeire: Just the, the kneading of the biscuit, the biscuit making, like just watching them do even on a pillow, not even on myself.

00:14:55.125 --> 00:14:57.945
Brian Vermeire: It's like, man, that looks so satisfying.

00:14:57.945 --> 00:14:58.765
Brian Vermeire: And I try it.

00:14:58.765 --> 00:15:00.205
Brian Vermeire: It's just, there's nothing there.

00:15:00.205 --> 00:15:01.825
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I think we need to send you to the kitchen.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Okay.

00:15:02.185 --> 00:15:03.085
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Send him to the kitchen.

00:15:03.085 --> 00:15:04.085
Isabel Alvarez Arata: He can make some biscuits.

00:15:04.085 --> 00:15:05.065
Isabel Alvarez Arata: He can make some donuts.

00:15:05.125 --> 00:15:06.745
Isabel Alvarez Arata: He can roll some pretzels.

00:15:06.745 --> 00:15:08.205
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Send him to the kitchen.

00:15:08.205 --> 00:15:08.785
Kristina Hughes: Yeah.

00:15:08.785 --> 00:15:12.845
Kristina Hughes: I do love a good tail chase when they go this way and that way.

00:15:12.845 --> 00:15:19.185
Kristina Hughes: But my favorite thing, because when we first moved here, we live right near the California aqueduct.

00:15:19.185 --> 00:15:26.925
Kristina Hughes: Somebody on the Nextdoor app posted a picture of a bobcat just hanging around the aqueduct in a tree.

00:15:26.925 --> 00:15:29.205
Kristina Hughes: And I do want to go hiking up there and see that.

00:15:29.205 --> 00:15:32.405
Kristina Hughes: We hike all the time up there and we don't see anything like that.

00:15:32.685 --> 00:15:37.165
Kristina Hughes: But I love when our cat act like bobcat.

00:15:37.165 --> 00:15:43.625
Kristina Hughes: You'll see an arm hanging down from the frame, or you'll see them with these weird accent cobs.

00:15:43.625 --> 00:15:44.245
Brian Vermeire: This is color.

00:15:44.245 --> 00:15:45.245
Kristina Hughes: In a minute.

00:15:45.245 --> 00:15:52.085
Kristina Hughes: You have these weird accent cobs, and the cats will somehow make their way up there, and they're just hanging their arm out.

00:15:52.085 --> 00:15:58.085
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I personally right now, I love that tail hanging out, but right there in your frame.

00:15:58.085 --> 00:16:00.245
Brian Vermeire: It makes it when it breaks the wall, right?

00:16:00.265 --> 00:16:01.145
Brian Vermeire: It breaks that.

00:16:01.145 --> 00:16:03.745
Kristina Hughes: That's when you notice, there's a cat in there.

00:16:03.745 --> 00:16:07.225
Isabel Alvarez Arata: He's very particular about his tail, though.

00:16:07.225 --> 00:16:13.185
Kristina Hughes: And if you touch it, because my dad was visiting, and he's going, look, beer brin, because he's got these like mutton chops.

00:16:13.185 --> 00:16:25.165
Kristina Hughes: He touches tail, I'm like, you're going to regret it, because the tail for him is, he probably had his tail yanked, you know, at the previous owners or something, because that's not really like his tail touched.

00:16:25.165 --> 00:16:26.105
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I hear that.

00:16:26.105 --> 00:16:27.625
Kristina Hughes: Oh, he just booked it, though.

00:16:27.625 --> 00:16:28.425
Kristina Hughes: He just said yes.

00:16:29.085 --> 00:16:29.685
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Exactly.

00:16:29.685 --> 00:16:32.725
Isabel Alvarez Arata: He's like, I am listening, and you are right on track.

00:16:32.725 --> 00:16:33.145
Isabel Alvarez Arata: All right.

00:16:33.145 --> 00:16:34.765
Isabel Alvarez Arata: So you guys make products.

00:16:34.765 --> 00:16:37.005
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Which is your favorite product that you make?

00:16:37.005 --> 00:16:38.785
Kristina Hughes: If you had to choose just one.

00:16:38.785 --> 00:16:42.265
Kristina Hughes: Oh, well, we just make the Frame Your Feline ensemble.

00:16:42.265 --> 00:16:46.005
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I know, but like which aesthetic is your favorite?

00:16:46.005 --> 00:16:50.565
Kristina Hughes: Probably what Bodhi is in right now, the Gallery Golds Frame.

00:16:50.565 --> 00:16:54.465
Kristina Hughes: That's what we started the business on.

00:16:54.465 --> 00:16:58.525
Kristina Hughes: And it's just like your cat is a piece of art.

00:16:58.525 --> 00:17:02.405
Kristina Hughes: And the artwork panels, they swap in and out.

00:17:02.405 --> 00:17:08.525
Kristina Hughes: So for different colored cats, like we can accent their best features.

00:17:08.525 --> 00:17:09.665
Brian Vermeire: Here, show her.

00:17:09.665 --> 00:17:11.105
Kristina Hughes: Okay, I just want to make sure.

00:17:11.105 --> 00:17:11.605
Brian Vermeire: Watch it.

00:17:11.605 --> 00:17:14.205
Brian Vermeire: See, people did have no idea what they're looking at.

00:17:14.205 --> 00:17:14.585
Kristina Hughes: Right.

00:17:14.585 --> 00:17:16.665
Brian Vermeire: But it looks like a cat is in the frame, but it's...

00:17:18.205 --> 00:17:19.965
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Sorry, Bodie.

00:17:19.965 --> 00:17:23.205
Kristina Hughes: This is an Alice in Wonderland inspired.

00:17:23.205 --> 00:17:24.285
Brian Vermeire: Pretty cool, right?

00:17:24.285 --> 00:17:25.785
Kristina Hughes: Beautiful.

00:17:25.785 --> 00:17:27.605
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I'm going to put this one up.

00:17:27.605 --> 00:17:29.805
Isabel Alvarez Arata: This is Christmas time.

00:17:29.805 --> 00:17:31.925
Kristina Hughes: Let me see if Bodie will let me do this.

00:17:32.325 --> 00:17:34.425
Kristina Hughes: He's not useful.

00:17:34.425 --> 00:17:37.865
Kristina Hughes: Bodie doesn't usually partake in our lives.

00:17:37.865 --> 00:17:41.565
Kristina Hughes: So I don't know how he'll react, but he didn't even flinch.

00:17:41.565 --> 00:17:44.645
Kristina Hughes: So that's a beautiful Christmas piece.

00:17:44.965 --> 00:17:51.145
Kristina Hughes: You can celebrate Christmas without feeling like it has to be overly, you know, red and green Santa.

00:17:51.165 --> 00:17:52.725
Kristina Hughes: I love it.

00:17:52.725 --> 00:17:53.085
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Oh my God.

00:17:53.085 --> 00:17:53.865
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I love it so much.

00:17:53.865 --> 00:17:56.385
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And I love that he's making an appearance today.

00:17:56.385 --> 00:18:01.605
Isabel Alvarez Arata: If he's not usually around for lives or for recordings, this is wonderful.

00:18:01.605 --> 00:18:03.665
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I love this idea.

00:18:03.665 --> 00:18:04.165
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I love it.

00:18:04.165 --> 00:18:05.185
Isabel Alvarez Arata: It's so beautiful.

00:18:05.185 --> 00:18:06.605
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Thank you for playing my game.

00:18:06.605 --> 00:18:15.065
Isabel Alvarez Arata: But now I want you to tell me, when did you all have this aha moment that we need these frames for felines with interchangeable backgrounds?

00:18:15.065 --> 00:18:15.845
Brian Vermeire: Okay.

00:18:15.845 --> 00:18:24.485
Brian Vermeire: So we were living in our apartment and we had an ugly, disgusting, ratty cat tree.

00:18:24.485 --> 00:18:25.065
Brian Vermeire: Don't we all?

00:18:25.825 --> 00:18:26.985
Kristina Hughes: Powder blue.

00:18:26.985 --> 00:18:27.785
Brian Vermeire: Powder blue.

00:18:28.285 --> 00:18:31.365
Brian Vermeire: And I went, I took it outside to wash it.

00:18:31.365 --> 00:18:32.065
Brian Vermeire: Okay.

00:18:32.065 --> 00:18:33.285
Brian Vermeire: I hosed it down.

00:18:33.485 --> 00:18:35.325
Brian Vermeire: It was still gross.

00:18:35.325 --> 00:18:37.445
Brian Vermeire: I brought it back in after it dried.

00:18:37.445 --> 00:18:40.325
Brian Vermeire: Within 10 minutes, the whole place smelled like rotten milk.

00:18:40.445 --> 00:18:41.845
Brian Vermeire: It was just horrible.

00:18:41.845 --> 00:18:43.265
Brian Vermeire: Tossed it out.

00:18:43.265 --> 00:18:44.445
Brian Vermeire: We ended up moving.

00:18:44.445 --> 00:18:45.705
Brian Vermeire: We bought a house.

00:18:45.705 --> 00:18:47.685
Kristina Hughes: Actually, we kept it for a little while.

00:18:47.705 --> 00:18:49.465
Kristina Hughes: We kept the cat tree and then tossed it out.

00:18:49.465 --> 00:18:51.265
Kristina Hughes: We tried to just deal with it.

00:18:51.265 --> 00:18:51.865
Brian Vermeire: I don't know.

00:18:51.865 --> 00:18:54.525
Brian Vermeire: But anyway, Well, you poor thing.

00:18:54.525 --> 00:18:56.085
Brian Vermeire: Are we taking this thing with us?

00:18:56.085 --> 00:18:56.825
Brian Vermeire: No.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I don't know, a sign of this lady across the street, she took it in like five minutes.

00:19:00.385 --> 00:19:02.945
Kristina Hughes: I was like, good luck to you because it's wretched.

00:19:02.945 --> 00:19:03.365
Brian Vermeire: It's wretched.

00:19:03.365 --> 00:19:05.285
Kristina Hughes: Full of dust and dander.

00:19:05.285 --> 00:19:12.465
Brian Vermeire: So we moved into our new house and we were thinking of like, oh, should we do a cool cat wall?

00:19:12.465 --> 00:19:13.845
Brian Vermeire: Like, what should we do?

00:19:13.845 --> 00:19:17.865
Brian Vermeire: And we were hanging up artwork at the same time we were having this conversation.

00:19:17.865 --> 00:19:22.365
Brian Vermeire: Kristina turns to me and she goes, well, why don't we make our cat's art?

00:19:22.365 --> 00:19:25.085
Brian Vermeire: And I could go like take a picture of her cat and put it up on the wall.

00:19:25.085 --> 00:19:27.305
Brian Vermeire: And then she goes, Frame our cat.

00:19:27.305 --> 00:19:28.145
Brian Vermeire: Frame our cat.

00:19:28.145 --> 00:19:31.245
Brian Vermeire: And then that's when everything started.

00:19:31.245 --> 00:19:32.985
Brian Vermeire: Like, why are we, hold on.

00:19:32.985 --> 00:19:34.685
Brian Vermeire: So we started sketching stuff out.

00:19:34.685 --> 00:19:36.765
Brian Vermeire: We were like, okay, how would this work?

00:19:36.765 --> 00:19:42.425
Kristina Hughes: Because that's my dad, like I said earlier, my dad is a big rock and roll art collector.

00:19:42.425 --> 00:19:46.965
Kristina Hughes: Ronnie Wood, Jerry Garcia, Patty Boyd, a couple others.

00:19:46.965 --> 00:19:49.705
Kristina Hughes: And he has this amazing framer.

00:19:49.705 --> 00:19:53.205
Kristina Hughes: And she has all these really cool frames, dials for the art.

00:19:53.205 --> 00:19:56.125
Kristina Hughes: And she does these cool maps and everything.

00:19:56.125 --> 00:20:01.825
Kristina Hughes: And so we were hanging up a Rod Stewart that's by Ronnie Wood with this really cool frame.

00:20:01.825 --> 00:20:08.805
Kristina Hughes: And I was like, how do we create like a gallery wall of a cat and a artwork and a cat and artwork?

00:20:08.805 --> 00:20:11.925
Kristina Hughes: And what we have behind us, this is like where we do all of our lives.

00:20:11.925 --> 00:20:18.465
Kristina Hughes: So we don't have like plants and artwork, but we have customers who have done exactly what I'm talking about.

00:20:18.465 --> 00:20:20.105
Kristina Hughes: And it looks phenomenal.

00:20:20.105 --> 00:20:22.545
Kristina Hughes: They know exactly what little cap grasses to put.

00:20:22.545 --> 00:20:24.845
Kristina Hughes: And they have their other art all around.

00:20:24.845 --> 00:20:26.085
Kristina Hughes: So it's so cool.

00:20:26.085 --> 00:20:27.125
Brian Vermeire: It's really cool.

00:20:28.145 --> 00:20:31.285
Brian Vermeire: So we sketched, we did everything.

00:20:31.285 --> 00:20:35.705
Brian Vermeire: And then we did what any normal human would do, call your dad.

00:20:35.705 --> 00:20:41.165
Brian Vermeire: So I called my dad, my dad, a retired engineer.

00:20:41.165 --> 00:20:44.685
Brian Vermeire: And he's brilliant with woodwork and all of that.

00:20:44.685 --> 00:20:50.625
Brian Vermeire: And so we told him our idea and he was intrigued.

00:20:50.625 --> 00:20:54.325
Brian Vermeire: And so we, there was nobody doing what we were doing.

00:20:54.325 --> 00:20:55.045
Brian Vermeire: Totally unique.

00:20:55.045 --> 00:20:56.125
Kristina Hughes: And we told him that.

00:20:56.125 --> 00:20:58.425
Kristina Hughes: And then we went home for a visit.

00:20:58.425 --> 00:21:02.105
Kristina Hughes: He was like, so you think that this is like something?

00:21:02.585 --> 00:21:06.945
Kristina Hughes: And we were like, yes, when we lived in our apartment, like something like just that a cat would like.

00:21:06.945 --> 00:21:10.545
Kristina Hughes: When we lived in our apartment, we loved watching Jackson Galaxy.

00:21:10.545 --> 00:21:20.105
Kristina Hughes: We wanted to catify everything, but we just didn't know how we didn't know like, how we really get from the cat tree that everybody's used to to like something on the wall.

00:21:20.105 --> 00:21:23.925
Kristina Hughes: But those like super cat walls, they're not really pretty, right?

00:21:23.925 --> 00:21:28.165
Kristina Hughes: It's like a shelf and like a bridge and the scratching.

00:21:28.165 --> 00:21:30.085
Kristina Hughes: It's not, they don't, it doesn't exist.

00:21:30.105 --> 00:21:32.585
Kristina Hughes: You know, human and cat are not really co-existent.

00:21:32.585 --> 00:21:34.105
Brian Vermeire: Just saying, how cool is, you know.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: It's amazing.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: It's, I'm going to order like 18 of them.

00:21:36.645 --> 00:21:43.605
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Cause I've been thinking my have a, I have a, my stairwell is blank right now, but my kids are all constantly doing art.

00:21:43.905 --> 00:21:48.045
Isabel Alvarez Arata: The Montessori school that they were both in, now my daughter's about to leave that school.

00:21:48.045 --> 00:21:54.105
Isabel Alvarez Arata: They have like an annual art thing where they made a lot of really good art like for this like event.

00:21:54.105 --> 00:21:56.225
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And I was like, I need to put it up somewhere.

00:21:56.225 --> 00:22:00.545
Isabel Alvarez Arata: But I also didn't want to give up that potential space for a cat wall.

00:22:00.545 --> 00:22:03.265
Isabel Alvarez Arata: So you just gave me the ability to do both.

00:22:03.265 --> 00:22:06.045
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Display my kid's artwork, display my cat.

00:22:06.045 --> 00:22:11.005
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Give my cat somewhere to jump up on and do his thing on, but also display my kid's work.

00:22:11.005 --> 00:22:16.605
Isabel Alvarez Arata: So like it's like the perfect melding of function and form, which is what art is really in many ways.

00:22:16.605 --> 00:22:18.185
Isabel Alvarez Arata: So I love it so much.

00:22:18.185 --> 00:22:21.725
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And so were you, was your family like surprised about this?

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Like what were you doing prior?

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Kristina Hughes: Well, the family is very surprised because Brian's mother, where are you going up?

00:22:27.945 --> 00:22:28.925
Brian Vermeire: I'm listening to what you're saying.

00:22:28.925 --> 00:22:30.805
Kristina Hughes: For corporate, you know.

00:22:30.805 --> 00:22:37.665
Kristina Hughes: Brian grew up with his mother saying that she was allergic to cats, so they never had any cats.

00:22:37.665 --> 00:22:43.685
Kristina Hughes: Judy the little afraid of cats when she'd come to visit and they had a dog.

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Kristina Hughes: So they're like, oh, hey, wow.

00:22:46.585 --> 00:22:48.265
Brian Vermeire: I grew up a dog.

00:22:48.265 --> 00:22:49.825
Brian Vermeire: I didn't know what a cat was.

00:22:49.825 --> 00:22:53.285
Brian Vermeire: I'd never seen one in the wild until I met Kristina.

00:22:53.285 --> 00:22:55.745
Brian Vermeire: Once you get one cat, it's like a tattoo.

00:22:56.065 --> 00:22:57.725
Brian Vermeire: You don't just get one tattoo.

00:22:57.725 --> 00:23:03.465
Brian Vermeire: They start multiplying and next thing you know, you have a face tattoo and it's just horrible.

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Brian Vermeire: I have the face tattoo amount of cats.

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Brian Vermeire: So I love cats now.

00:23:08.685 --> 00:23:09.745
Brian Vermeire: Cats are super cool.

00:23:09.745 --> 00:23:11.085
Brian Vermeire: They're super chill.

00:23:11.085 --> 00:23:19.865
Brian Vermeire: Hey, if they're dog people who are listening to this show and you don't have a cat and you're like allergic, you're allergic to the cat tree, okay?

00:23:19.865 --> 00:23:20.905
Brian Vermeire: That's what you're allergic to.

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Kristina Hughes: Yeah, you're probably right.

00:23:22.825 --> 00:23:23.405
Kristina Hughes: Yeah.

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Brian Vermeire: That fur and dust and everything collects on the thing.

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Brian Vermeire: That's why you can't have a cat.

00:23:29.345 --> 00:23:31.145
Brian Vermeire: Don't get the cat tree.

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Brian Vermeire: Get a Frame Your Feline mounted on your wall.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I'm assuming it's easy to clean because you just wipe it, right?

00:23:37.445 --> 00:23:46.005
Kristina Hughes: Well, so the artwork panels, they're printed on something that is waterproof and doesn't absorb any smell.

00:23:46.005 --> 00:23:48.365
Kristina Hughes: Cat can throw up on it, cat can pee on it.

00:23:49.045 --> 00:23:51.925
Kristina Hughes: We've had some cats from the Cat Fanciers Association.

00:23:51.925 --> 00:23:56.765
Kristina Hughes: The boy cats are not neutered because they're used for breeding, so they pee on everything.

00:23:57.045 --> 00:23:58.325
Kristina Hughes: So that's cool.

00:23:58.325 --> 00:24:02.585
Kristina Hughes: The Frames, you can use, like I use like an old facecloth.

00:24:02.585 --> 00:24:05.025
Kristina Hughes: I just have it dampened, just kind of run it through.

00:24:05.025 --> 00:24:06.205
Kristina Hughes: There's like a little dust.

00:24:06.205 --> 00:24:26.025
Kristina Hughes: And then the very cool thing is the bottom shelf has carpeting that's fully replaceable, but I just take our little purple Zoom groom and like once a month, I just Zoom groom it, get all the hair, all the nail shards, all the bits of treat, throw that away, give it a little vacuum.

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Brian Vermeire: And the shelves are non-porous.

00:24:28.545 --> 00:24:31.705
Brian Vermeire: They are toxic free, right?

00:24:31.705 --> 00:24:36.645
Brian Vermeire: It's hot, non-poxic, that's the word, pour in, non-porous and recyclable, fully recyclable.

00:24:36.645 --> 00:24:37.885
Isabel Alvarez Arata: That is amazing.

00:24:37.885 --> 00:24:39.685
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I love it so much.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Okay, so you didn't tell me what you were doing prior.

00:24:41.965 --> 00:24:49.445
Isabel Alvarez Arata: What was it that you guys, what line of work were you in before you became crazy cat people that made it your business to be crazy cat people?

00:24:49.445 --> 00:24:55.765
Brian Vermeire: So, doing a lot of graphics, logo work, website design.

00:24:55.765 --> 00:24:56.905
Kristina Hughes: Commercial production.

00:24:56.905 --> 00:24:59.105
Brian Vermeire: Commercial production, video editing, you name it.

00:24:59.105 --> 00:25:00.685
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Did nine commercials.

00:25:00.685 --> 00:25:02.585
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Okay, so you've always been creative.

00:25:02.585 --> 00:25:03.305
Kristina Hughes: Yeah.

00:25:03.305 --> 00:25:04.165
Brian Vermeire: Yes.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Okay, well that makes sense.

00:25:05.525 --> 00:25:06.645
Isabel Alvarez Arata: That makes sense, that makes sense.

00:25:06.645 --> 00:25:12.385
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I mean, if you had told me you were like, I don't know, like an accountant, I would have been like, mm, that's surprising.

00:25:12.665 --> 00:25:15.105
Kristina Hughes: I've never worked like a job, job.

00:25:15.105 --> 00:25:20.065
Isabel Alvarez Arata: You've always been, you've always been a creative, a creator.

00:25:20.065 --> 00:25:28.185
Kristina Hughes: Performing and yeah, like performing and then promotion, like a lot of like promotion work and stuff.

00:25:28.185 --> 00:25:28.985
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Perfect.

00:25:28.985 --> 00:25:29.325
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I love it.

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Kristina Hughes: That's why we're shy when we do like CatCon and the other shows, we're like, we know how to do this, because we've done trade shows for a million other companies.

00:25:37.945 --> 00:25:48.725
Brian Vermeire: So I'm not, I'm not shy, but I always require when I do something on camera that I have final editing rights, so you know, you'll have to pass that by me and my people.

00:25:48.725 --> 00:25:50.465
Brian Vermeire: No, I got to go.

00:25:50.465 --> 00:25:53.505
Isabel Alvarez Arata: No, no, no, no, no, no.

00:25:53.505 --> 00:25:56.205
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I don't, my guests always say they look great.

00:25:56.205 --> 00:25:57.325
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And I make sure of that.

00:25:57.525 --> 00:26:03.805
Isabel Alvarez Arata: It's something I take pride in, but you're not getting final say, we're all going to look taller, slimmer and more tan.

00:26:03.805 --> 00:26:06.805
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Like that's what we're all going to look taller, slimmer and more tan.

00:26:06.805 --> 00:26:08.005
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I mean, that's just, that's how we do.

00:26:08.445 --> 00:26:12.925
Isabel Alvarez Arata: We got to look like we just spent the summer in Miami, you know, cocktail in hand.

00:26:12.925 --> 00:26:16.745
Isabel Alvarez Arata: All right, so tell me about, you just mentioned trade shows.

00:26:16.745 --> 00:26:22.705
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Tell me about the birth of Jack the Cat as your mascot.

00:26:22.705 --> 00:26:27.825
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Not his literal birth, of course, but his coming of age at CatCon.

00:26:27.825 --> 00:26:46.965
Brian Vermeire: So, okay, so we literally kind of really had a, the product really launched at CatCon last year and it was the first time that the public actually saw it, you know, and so last year, meaning 2023.

00:26:46.965 --> 00:26:51.105
Brian Vermeire: And so we were like, okay, how many days is it?

00:26:51.105 --> 00:26:53.705
Brian Vermeire: It's two days and it's day of set up.

00:26:53.705 --> 00:26:57.545
Brian Vermeire: It's in Pasadena, so it's like an hour and change away from us.

00:26:57.545 --> 00:27:00.165
Brian Vermeire: And we're like, are we really going to drive back and forth each time?

00:27:00.165 --> 00:27:00.965
Brian Vermeire: I'm like, no.

00:27:01.025 --> 00:27:02.645
Kristina Hughes: Oh, no.

00:27:02.645 --> 00:27:04.745
Brian Vermeire: And we were like, we're not going to get a baby.

00:27:04.745 --> 00:27:09.885
Brian Vermeire: Our family does not live out here with us, so we couldn't just say, hey, mom, watch my kid, right?

00:27:09.885 --> 00:27:11.385
Isabel Alvarez Arata: We are 40 hours.

00:27:11.385 --> 00:27:12.525
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Good luck.

00:27:12.525 --> 00:27:16.685
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Listen, even if my mom did live near me, she wouldn't watch my kids for 40 hours.

00:27:16.685 --> 00:27:17.725
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Like, let me just be honest.

00:27:17.725 --> 00:27:20.785
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Like, not all grandparents are up for that challenge.

00:27:20.785 --> 00:27:24.225
Isabel Alvarez Arata: So I mean, you know, the flying, the watching, I get it.

00:27:24.225 --> 00:27:25.645
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Like, you had to bring your kid with you.

00:27:25.645 --> 00:27:28.725
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And like, that's so smart that you just said, let's give him a job.

00:27:29.145 --> 00:27:34.905
Kristina Hughes: Yes, so we were like, okay, how are we gonna utilize Jackson?

00:27:34.905 --> 00:27:38.285
Kristina Hughes: And then I'm like, we're gonna make him a cat.

00:27:38.285 --> 00:27:39.765
Kristina Hughes: Are you okay with this, Jackson?

00:27:39.765 --> 00:27:41.505
Kristina Hughes: And he's like, yes.

00:27:41.505 --> 00:27:43.825
Kristina Hughes: And what do you mean by that, exactly?

00:27:43.825 --> 00:27:46.225
Kristina Hughes: So everything had evolved.

00:27:46.225 --> 00:27:51.745
Kristina Hughes: We found two different costumes, like one for day one Saturday, one for day two Sunday.

00:27:51.785 --> 00:27:53.965
Kristina Hughes: So he's a ginger cat on Saturday.

00:27:53.965 --> 00:27:57.965
Kristina Hughes: He's a black and white tuxedo cat on Sunday.

00:27:57.965 --> 00:28:04.165
Kristina Hughes: And we give him little signs to hold so people will take pictures with him.

00:28:04.165 --> 00:28:06.385
Isabel Alvarez Arata: So he's like the photo op.

00:28:06.385 --> 00:28:09.365
Kristina Hughes: And then he gets to network.

00:28:09.365 --> 00:28:18.285
Kristina Hughes: So Brian has needed little business cards and he'll give little kids that are there, like his Roblox account or his Minecraft account so he can get followers.

00:28:18.285 --> 00:28:23.105
Kristina Hughes: During COVID, we produced a show for Jackson called The Trick or Treat Kid.

00:28:23.105 --> 00:28:29.585
Kristina Hughes: So you go to trickertreatkid.com, you can see Jackson is not a shy child and he's very creative.

00:28:29.585 --> 00:28:31.805
Kristina Hughes: So, oh, cool.

00:28:31.805 --> 00:28:38.585
Kristina Hughes: So we did, we did CatCon and then we did Best Friends and we are still playing around.

00:28:38.585 --> 00:28:44.785
Kristina Hughes: And then in January, we did CFA San Diego and they had a face painter there.

00:28:44.785 --> 00:28:47.685
Kristina Hughes: And I'm like, oh my God, why didn't I think of this?

00:28:47.685 --> 00:28:50.465
Kristina Hughes: So now we face paint Jackson's face.

00:28:50.765 --> 00:28:55.185
Kristina Hughes: And then he has his cat hood and the ears and the whole costume.

00:28:55.185 --> 00:28:57.745
Brian Vermeire: Quite frankly, he steals the show.

00:28:58.265 --> 00:29:00.365
Brian Vermeire: I think he overshadows the product.

00:29:00.365 --> 00:29:02.865
Brian Vermeire: We have to, now we have to negotiate with his agent.

00:29:02.865 --> 00:29:06.265
Brian Vermeire: It's just so bad because he knows he has.

00:29:06.265 --> 00:29:08.405
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I love that he had two costumes.

00:29:08.405 --> 00:29:12.665
Kristina Hughes: Like he could not repeat an outfit for CatCon.

00:29:12.665 --> 00:29:16.645
Kristina Hughes: Yeah, I was just nervous that something would happen to the first costume.

00:29:16.645 --> 00:29:17.185
Kristina Hughes: Understood.

00:29:17.185 --> 00:29:19.585
Kristina Hughes: As a mom, as moms would, as moms would, yes.

00:29:19.845 --> 00:29:22.525
Kristina Hughes: Because we ordered it from Amazon.

00:29:22.525 --> 00:29:27.025
Kristina Hughes: We tried to find somebody who would make one and it was very cost prohibitive.

00:29:27.025 --> 00:29:34.165
Kristina Hughes: And then those ones that you'll see, like Meryl the feral has at CatCon, those are like $2,000, $3,000.

00:29:34.165 --> 00:29:37.545
Isabel Alvarez Arata: You got to wear a vest and inside of it.

00:29:37.545 --> 00:29:38.865
Kristina Hughes: He's not ready for that.

00:29:38.865 --> 00:29:39.125
Isabel Alvarez Arata: No.

00:29:39.125 --> 00:29:45.865
Kristina Hughes: So there are pin marks on the costume and the tail, it has a big safety pin on it.

00:29:45.865 --> 00:29:53.265
Kristina Hughes: The flooring at CatCon is dirty cause the costume is like, I've sprayed it and washed it like 20 times and it can't get white.

00:29:53.265 --> 00:29:54.765
Brian Vermeire: Basically one and done.

00:29:54.765 --> 00:29:56.445
Brian Vermeire: That's it, you'll air lines.

00:29:56.445 --> 00:29:59.485
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Are you all gonna be at CFA in Cleveland?

00:29:59.485 --> 00:30:00.625
Kristina Hughes: We are considering.

00:30:00.625 --> 00:30:01.685
Brian Vermeire: He's stuttering it.

00:30:01.685 --> 00:30:03.025
Kristina Hughes: It's October.

00:30:03.025 --> 00:30:04.425
Brian Vermeire: Are you gonna be, are you there?

00:30:04.425 --> 00:30:06.225
Brian Vermeire: Wait, were you there?

00:30:06.225 --> 00:30:07.925
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I'm going to be there.

00:30:07.925 --> 00:30:08.685
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I'm going to be there.

00:30:08.685 --> 00:30:09.225
Isabel Alvarez Arata: No, no, no, no.

00:30:09.225 --> 00:30:12.185
Brian Vermeire: When this airs, you will have already been there.

00:30:12.625 --> 00:30:14.905
Isabel Alvarez Arata: So yes, so I'm going to be there.

00:30:14.905 --> 00:30:16.025
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I am going to be there.

00:30:16.025 --> 00:30:30.785
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I am going to be doing, I'm not sure if I'm allowed to say this, but I think it'll be close enough to the event that I can say this, but I'm gonna be doing a social media takeover for CFA, covering all of the people who show up.

00:30:30.785 --> 00:30:32.805
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And of course the cats, the cats.

00:30:32.805 --> 00:30:34.605
Isabel Alvarez Arata: So yeah, that's what I'm gonna be there for.

00:30:34.605 --> 00:30:37.825
Kristina Hughes: Are you going to share something that's covered in pet hair?

00:30:37.825 --> 00:30:46.845
Isabel Alvarez Arata: You know, I, no matter how hard I try, everything is covered in pet hair in my suitcase, especially because my cat likes to lay in the suitcase when I'm packing it.

00:30:46.845 --> 00:30:58.425
Isabel Alvarez Arata: So regardless of how hard I try and how many little lint brushes I take with me, probably, probably, I am a fashion lover, so I will try to mend, meld my love of fashion and my love of cats.

00:30:58.425 --> 00:31:05.505
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I will probably start the day, sawns hair and end the day covered in pet hair, pat hair specifically, yes.

00:31:05.505 --> 00:31:11.145
Brian Vermeire: You should white label some of those lint brushes and hand them out with your logo.

00:31:11.145 --> 00:31:12.885
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I know, I know, I should, I should.

00:31:12.885 --> 00:31:13.905
Kristina Hughes: I really should.

00:31:13.905 --> 00:31:15.105
Brian Vermeire: I want temperature.

00:31:15.105 --> 00:31:17.085
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I know, that's a good idea.

00:31:17.145 --> 00:31:18.905
Brian Vermeire: It's yours, it's Yves Barnes.

00:31:18.905 --> 00:31:25.005
Isabel Alvarez Arata: All right, well, I wanna get to know more about your actual product, what makes it so special, but we do need to take a break right here.

00:31:25.005 --> 00:31:34.765
Isabel Alvarez Arata: When we come back, Brian and Kristina are gonna tell me what makes their cat product way better than anything else out on the market.

00:31:34.765 --> 00:31:38.405
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: PetLifeRadio.com Welcome back to Covered in Pet Hair.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I'm your host, Isabel Alvarez-Rana, and today I'm having an awesome conversation with the founders of Brain Your Feline, who, if you have not heard, created an innovative, wonderful product that looks good in your home, that your cat will love, that blends all the things we all want from cat products and usually don't get.

00:33:35.561 --> 00:33:41.281
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I am super excited to invite them to play a second game with me now that we're in the second part of the show.

00:33:41.281 --> 00:33:44.741
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And this is called Battle of the Cat Condos.

00:33:45.181 --> 00:34:06.421
Isabel Alvarez Arata: So I'm gonna give you each one minute, and you could decide who goes first, to tell me what makes your product way better than whatever else people are considering buying, whether it be a cat tree, a cat condo, the wall, the wall shelves, the super highway, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:34:06.421 --> 00:34:08.741
Isabel Alvarez Arata: All right, three, two, one, go.

00:34:08.741 --> 00:34:10.581
Brian Vermeire: Okay, those cat wheels.

00:34:10.581 --> 00:34:16.441
Brian Vermeire: No cats like the cat wheel, okay, that it takes up so much space and the cats don't use it.

00:34:16.441 --> 00:34:18.361
Brian Vermeire: And you try to train your cat to use it.

00:34:18.361 --> 00:34:20.261
Brian Vermeire: They don't want to use it.

00:34:20.261 --> 00:34:24.961
Brian Vermeire: You don't have to train your cat to get into a Frame Your Feline because they feel like they're in a box.

00:34:24.961 --> 00:34:28.641
Brian Vermeire: They feel protected even though it's open on all sides.

00:34:28.641 --> 00:34:30.281
Brian Vermeire: We call this the cat magnet.

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Brian Vermeire: Kristina, go.

00:34:31.221 --> 00:34:32.761
Brian Vermeire: We only have a minute, go.

00:34:32.761 --> 00:34:35.901
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Save bye-bye of re-carpentry cat trees.

00:34:35.901 --> 00:34:36.881
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Cat trees collect.

00:34:37.001 --> 00:34:37.561
Kristina Hughes: It's not standard.

00:34:37.561 --> 00:34:40.821
Kristina Hughes: They smell like whatever you made last night.

00:34:40.821 --> 00:34:43.101
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Who wants something that smells like eggs in their home?

00:34:43.101 --> 00:34:44.121
Kristina Hughes: I don't.

00:34:44.121 --> 00:34:47.101
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Our frames are easily recyclable.

00:34:47.101 --> 00:34:48.781
Kristina Hughes: They're not destined for a landfill.

00:34:48.781 --> 00:34:50.381
Kristina Hughes: They're not hideous.

00:34:50.381 --> 00:34:51.921
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And you can customize them.

00:34:51.921 --> 00:34:54.401
Kristina Hughes: You cannot do that with an ugly carpeted cat tree.

00:34:54.401 --> 00:34:57.621
Kristina Hughes: Nobody says, oh, look at my beautiful, ugly carpeted cat tree.

00:34:57.621 --> 00:34:59.781
Kristina Hughes: But they do say, look at my beautiful frame.

00:34:59.781 --> 00:35:00.241
Brian Vermeire: Awesome.

00:35:00.241 --> 00:35:03.461
Brian Vermeire: And lastly, those cat scales are boring.

00:35:03.461 --> 00:35:03.781
Brian Vermeire: What?

00:35:03.781 --> 00:35:05.121
Brian Vermeire: They're just hanging out on your wall.

00:35:05.741 --> 00:35:07.801
Brian Vermeire: Your cat is not doing anything.

00:35:07.801 --> 00:35:11.601
Brian Vermeire: Your cat becomes a beautiful work of me, officer peace.

00:35:11.601 --> 00:35:14.421
Brian Vermeire: Then they jump into a feline frame.

00:35:14.701 --> 00:35:16.401
Brian Vermeire: Your life will never be the same.

00:35:16.401 --> 00:35:19.881
Brian Vermeire: So make sure you can check out frameyourfeline.com.

00:35:19.881 --> 00:35:21.801
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Oh, I mean, I want to give you guys more time.

00:35:21.801 --> 00:35:24.041
Isabel Alvarez Arata: That was one minute, 18 seconds.

00:35:24.041 --> 00:35:27.361
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I had thought about giving you one minute each, but y'all aced it.

00:35:27.361 --> 00:35:28.261
Kristina Hughes: Cheers.

00:35:28.261 --> 00:35:30.181
Isabel Alvarez Arata: You guys, you don't need two minutes.

00:35:30.181 --> 00:35:31.321
Isabel Alvarez Arata: You don't need two minutes.

00:35:31.361 --> 00:35:36.121
Isabel Alvarez Arata: You aced it, you boom, drop my mic drop after a minute and 18 seconds.

00:35:36.121 --> 00:35:37.141
Kristina Hughes: Cheers to that.

00:35:37.141 --> 00:35:38.281
Brian Vermeire: Oh, one minute each.

00:35:38.281 --> 00:35:39.201
Kristina Hughes: Brian didn't hear that.

00:35:39.201 --> 00:35:40.041
Kristina Hughes: He was just so excited.

00:35:40.041 --> 00:35:41.721
Brian Vermeire: Okay, first of all, design.

00:35:41.721 --> 00:35:44.821
Kristina Hughes: He will say design by an engineer, backed by an engineer.

00:35:44.821 --> 00:35:45.841
Kristina Hughes: That's the one thing.

00:35:45.841 --> 00:35:55.301
Kristina Hughes: Some people are nervous about putting things on their wall and we're like, we give you a template, we give you the tools, we have support videos.

00:35:55.301 --> 00:35:57.741
Kristina Hughes: You're not gonna put this up and it's going to fall off.

00:35:58.121 --> 00:36:02.641
Kristina Hughes: You're going to put this up and it's going to be level and you're gonna love it.

00:36:02.641 --> 00:36:04.101
Brian Vermeire: Four screws.

00:36:04.101 --> 00:36:05.121
Brian Vermeire: That's it.

00:36:05.121 --> 00:36:07.401
Brian Vermeire: Connected to your studs in your wall.

00:36:07.401 --> 00:36:10.581
Brian Vermeire: This frame will not budge.

00:36:10.581 --> 00:36:11.221
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Perfect.

00:36:11.221 --> 00:36:18.861
Isabel Alvarez Arata: That is so important to say because guys, you can't just throw any kind of cat product on a wall and hope it stays.

00:36:18.861 --> 00:36:21.901
Isabel Alvarez Arata: It has to be properly installed.

00:36:21.901 --> 00:36:25.681
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Some of them make it real difficult for a regular old person.

00:36:25.701 --> 00:36:28.341
Isabel Alvarez Arata: You're going to have to call a handyman, spend more money.

00:36:28.341 --> 00:36:32.401
Isabel Alvarez Arata: This is easy to do, pretty straightforward.

00:36:32.401 --> 00:36:35.041
Kristina Hughes: Definitely need a stud finder, right?

00:36:35.061 --> 00:36:38.521
Isabel Alvarez Arata: You're going to make a dad joke about the stud finder because my husband always does.

00:36:39.101 --> 00:36:40.681
Kristina Hughes: Paul and the handyman.

00:36:40.681 --> 00:36:42.201
Brian Vermeire: Is this the after dark?

00:36:42.421 --> 00:36:44.681
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Look, this is the after dark.

00:36:44.681 --> 00:36:46.381
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Yes, this is the after dark part.

00:36:46.381 --> 00:36:47.701
Kristina Hughes: The owls grew.

00:36:47.701 --> 00:36:49.561
Isabel Alvarez Arata: My mind is going to wander.

00:36:49.561 --> 00:36:50.681
Brian Vermeire: You want to, would you?

00:36:50.721 --> 00:36:52.581
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Okay, so now I need to get into.

00:36:52.581 --> 00:36:53.981
Kristina Hughes: What do you drink?

00:36:53.981 --> 00:36:56.021
Kristina Hughes: Doesn't your smile like it bigger?

00:36:56.021 --> 00:36:59.281
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Well, my smile with red wine gets more purple.

00:36:59.281 --> 00:37:01.441
Kristina Hughes: Yeah, thank you, thank you.

00:37:01.441 --> 00:37:07.381
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I'm like trying to sip like in a weird way, so it does make my mouth purple, but hey, you know what happens.

00:37:07.381 --> 00:37:08.861
Isabel Alvarez Arata: It's just what it is.

00:37:08.861 --> 00:37:10.241
Isabel Alvarez Arata: It's the tannins.

00:37:10.241 --> 00:37:17.301
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Okay, so my biggest question is, who came up with the idea of the interchangeable backgrounds?

00:37:17.301 --> 00:37:18.901
Brian Vermeire: Good question, good question.

00:37:19.041 --> 00:37:19.901
Isabel Alvarez Arata: So brilliant, so brilliant.

00:37:19.901 --> 00:37:24.001
Brian Vermeire: Originally, our idea was, oh, we just, just the frame, just that.

00:37:24.001 --> 00:37:25.261
Brian Vermeire: That's fine, it's great.

00:37:25.261 --> 00:37:27.081
Brian Vermeire: And some people would say, that's, that's cool.

00:37:27.081 --> 00:37:28.381
Kristina Hughes: Which is good too.

00:37:28.381 --> 00:37:28.841
Isabel Alvarez Arata: It's good too.

00:37:28.841 --> 00:37:29.441
Brian Vermeire: Look at this.

00:37:29.441 --> 00:37:36.441
Brian Vermeire: I mean, when you can just celebrate holidays, you can have backdrops of anything you can imagine.

00:37:36.441 --> 00:37:41.901
Brian Vermeire: We have over 20 categories now of different types of backdrops.

00:37:41.901 --> 00:37:50.681
Brian Vermeire: And so this is great for Valentine's Day or just showing your cat that you wanna blow a couple kisses into the wind to your cat.

00:37:50.681 --> 00:38:00.941
Kristina Hughes: And also, if you have a cat that is dark in their fur color and you throw up a background that's bright, we do this with a rescue called the Feline Underground Network.

00:38:00.941 --> 00:38:03.961
Kristina Hughes: We've been taking lots of cat adoption pictures for them.

00:38:03.961 --> 00:38:13.601
Kristina Hughes: So they say like black cats, gray cats, the dark or kind of calico cats, they're really hard to get great pictures for pet finder and flyer.

00:38:13.601 --> 00:38:17.181
Kristina Hughes: So these red little artwork panels are so helpful.

00:38:17.701 --> 00:38:19.261
Brian Vermeire: So who came up with the idea?

00:38:19.261 --> 00:38:19.901
Brian Vermeire: Yes.

00:38:19.901 --> 00:38:21.561
Brian Vermeire: Guess who gets the credit?

00:38:21.561 --> 00:38:22.141
Brian Vermeire: My dad.

00:38:22.141 --> 00:38:22.721
Kristina Hughes: Yeah.

00:38:22.721 --> 00:38:23.901
Brian Vermeire: He goes, yeah.

00:38:23.901 --> 00:38:27.341
Brian Vermeire: He goes, what if we had images that go, really?

00:38:27.341 --> 00:38:31.861
Kristina Hughes: Like, we're like, you people are actually sharting, having a full revenue here.

00:38:31.861 --> 00:38:34.101
Brian Vermeire: Interesting, interesting.

00:38:34.101 --> 00:38:37.221
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Yeah, that's the long term client, right?

00:38:37.221 --> 00:38:40.841
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Like you don't want a one time purchase, you want an ongoing purchase.

00:38:40.841 --> 00:38:41.941
Isabel Alvarez Arata: You know what?

00:38:41.941 --> 00:38:44.281
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Shout out to Four Cats and Dogs.

00:38:44.361 --> 00:38:47.561
Isabel Alvarez Arata: They make these awesome entryway rugs, right?

00:38:47.561 --> 00:38:49.441
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And they're out of Canada right now.

00:38:49.441 --> 00:38:59.001
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I only get the rugs at Super Zoo when I go, and I literally ship rugs back because they have the frame of the rug, the rubber, super heavy duty.

00:38:59.001 --> 00:39:05.961
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And then they have seasonal inserts that are like those, like really nice, hefty, high quality rugs.

00:39:05.961 --> 00:39:11.921
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Right now, the one at my front door says Mudderita, because, you know, that was a gift from them.

00:39:12.341 --> 00:39:16.021
Isabel Alvarez Arata: They've gifted me a couple different options, one for Halloween.

00:39:16.661 --> 00:39:18.681
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And I can't wait to buy more.

00:39:18.681 --> 00:39:21.901
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I mean, I can't buy them right now because they don't sell in the US.

00:39:21.901 --> 00:39:28.981
Isabel Alvarez Arata: But it really, like I look at it and I'm like, I need one for the fall and I need one for Christmas and I need one for New Year's and I need one for this.

00:39:28.981 --> 00:39:34.561
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And this is so brilliant because it's living art in so many ways.

00:39:34.561 --> 00:39:40.041
Isabel Alvarez Arata: It's living art because your cat is living in it, but it's also living art because you get to change it.

00:39:40.141 --> 00:39:42.321
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And sometimes we get tired of our art.

00:39:42.321 --> 00:39:44.401
Brian Vermeire: Well, if they put that in, let me show her this one.

00:39:44.401 --> 00:39:52.901
Kristina Hughes: So this we actually partially shot at the Langham in Pasadena when we were at Cat Farm because we are always working.

00:39:52.901 --> 00:39:53.161
Brian Vermeire: Yeah.

00:39:53.161 --> 00:39:55.001
Brian Vermeire: Do you see the mouse eating cheese?

00:39:55.001 --> 00:39:56.521
Brian Vermeire: I love it.

00:39:56.521 --> 00:40:14.281
Brian Vermeire: So we have a luxury resort hotel interior theme of all different hallways and little nooks and crannies, a beautiful five-star hotel that you can put your cat in a lap of luxury and take pictures of your cat.

00:40:14.281 --> 00:40:16.741
Isabel Alvarez Arata: You don't even know how you're speaking my language.

00:40:16.741 --> 00:40:18.961
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I used to work for Kimpton Hotels and Resorts.

00:40:18.961 --> 00:40:34.801
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Like I love a boutique hotel with a very chic design and it was designed by an interior designer that's renowned and you can only see these things and these amazing items brought together by these amazing minds.

00:40:34.861 --> 00:40:38.081
Isabel Alvarez Arata: So I love that idea so much.

00:40:38.081 --> 00:40:39.881
Isabel Alvarez Arata: That is such a great idea.

00:40:39.881 --> 00:40:41.001
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I cannot wait.

00:40:41.001 --> 00:40:47.181
Brian Vermeire: Interiors is the category and we just like to elevate where your cat stays while they're in the frame.

00:40:47.181 --> 00:40:48.641
Brian Vermeire: And yeah, it's amazing.

00:40:48.641 --> 00:40:52.201
Brian Vermeire: Now, what's funny about you saw the mouse eating the cheese.

00:40:52.201 --> 00:41:00.761
Brian Vermeire: So there was an actual artwork there, but I had to take that out because of copyright issues, which is a whole other conversation.

00:41:00.761 --> 00:41:28.021
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Well, actually, it's one I wanted to ask you about because I went on your website, and because I am the proud owner of a cat named Bango, I looked to see Bango, what you had, and you had three results for Bango come up, and they were Bango-inspired landscapes, and they were beautiful because you could totally see that impressionist, kind of like the starry night kind of technique, but in a totally different landscape.

00:41:28.021 --> 00:41:32.601
Isabel Alvarez Arata: So you could feel it, but obviously, you weren't stealing from Bango's estate.

00:41:33.001 --> 00:41:34.201
Brian Vermeire: We don't want to do that.

00:41:34.201 --> 00:41:35.301
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Tell us about that.

00:41:35.301 --> 00:41:36.341
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Yeah, tell us about that.

00:41:36.341 --> 00:41:37.981
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Like, how careful do you have to be?

00:41:37.981 --> 00:41:39.241
Brian Vermeire: Careful.

00:41:39.241 --> 00:41:42.581
Kristina Hughes: Yeah, before we launched, we have two friends.

00:41:42.581 --> 00:41:43.461
Kristina Hughes: They're a couple.

00:41:43.461 --> 00:41:47.121
Kristina Hughes: He's a CPA, and she's a patent attorney.

00:41:47.121 --> 00:41:53.541
Kristina Hughes: And she advised us on certain things that we didn't know that were super trademarked like.

00:41:53.541 --> 00:41:54.101
Kristina Hughes: Hello, pet.

00:41:54.121 --> 00:41:59.961
Brian Vermeire: So, we have a photographer who takes great pictures of wildlife.

00:41:59.961 --> 00:42:01.661
Brian Vermeire: He has Paris images.

00:42:01.661 --> 00:42:02.521
Brian Vermeire: Michael Powell.

00:42:02.521 --> 00:42:03.261
Brian Vermeire: Awesome.

00:42:03.261 --> 00:42:13.661
Brian Vermeire: So we, and he's granted us rights to print his images and sell them, but he had pictures of the Eiffel Tower at night.

00:42:13.661 --> 00:42:16.121
Brian Vermeire: Beautiful images, beautiful.

00:42:16.121 --> 00:42:17.121
Brian Vermeire: Can't use them.

00:42:17.121 --> 00:42:18.101
Brian Vermeire: Can't use them.

00:42:18.101 --> 00:42:27.561
Brian Vermeire: We can only sell pictures of the Eiffel Tower during the day, but not at night because the lighting on the Eiffel Tower is copyrighted.

00:42:27.561 --> 00:42:28.221
Kristina Hughes: Yeah.

00:42:28.221 --> 00:42:29.361
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Crazy, right?

00:42:29.361 --> 00:42:29.861
Kristina Hughes: Yeah.

00:42:32.041 --> 00:42:34.401
Brian Vermeire: So buildings are copyrighted.

00:42:34.401 --> 00:42:42.121
Brian Vermeire: So we can't sell an image of the Empire State Building, but we could go back.

00:42:42.121 --> 00:42:46.381
Brian Vermeire: And if it's part of the land of a cityscape, then we're okay.

00:42:46.381 --> 00:42:49.681
Brian Vermeire: Cause the focus isn't on that one particular building, right?

00:42:50.221 --> 00:42:53.721
Brian Vermeire: So it's those challenges of figuring out, okay.

00:42:53.721 --> 00:42:58.801
Brian Vermeire: And then, interesting, what is, what falls out of copyright?

00:42:58.801 --> 00:43:12.641
Brian Vermeire: So that is, that's what we're looking at right now, because it's looking like we actually may have real big-time, fine artists, fine artists that we can actually.

00:43:12.641 --> 00:43:15.221
Brian Vermeire: So your wish may come true.

00:43:15.241 --> 00:43:22.481
Kristina Hughes: We were doing a live, we were doing a live one day on Instagram, and this one didn't say, like, do you guys have anything like Alice in Wonderland?

00:43:22.481 --> 00:43:24.561
Kristina Hughes: And we're like, well, we don't have the rights to that yet.

00:43:24.561 --> 00:43:26.321
Kristina Hughes: That's a licensing deal.

00:43:26.321 --> 00:43:30.681
Kristina Hughes: We want to do colleges and football teams and all that stuff.

00:43:30.681 --> 00:43:33.361
Kristina Hughes: So it takes time to build a business.

00:43:33.361 --> 00:43:39.401
Kristina Hughes: It takes time to learn about approaching these people and businesses and corporations and that sort of thing.

00:43:39.401 --> 00:43:47.141
Kristina Hughes: But then through AI, we were able to create some Alice in Wonderland inspired fantasy lens.

00:43:47.141 --> 00:43:50.241
Kristina Hughes: So that's in our whole fantasy category on the website.

00:43:50.241 --> 00:43:51.041
Kristina Hughes: Super cool.

00:43:51.041 --> 00:43:51.381
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Okay.

00:43:51.381 --> 00:43:54.261
Isabel Alvarez Arata: So you have a patent on this product, correct?

00:43:54.261 --> 00:43:54.681
Brian Vermeire: Patent.

00:43:54.961 --> 00:43:56.621
Isabel Alvarez Arata: It's been filed.

00:43:56.621 --> 00:44:00.161
Kristina Hughes: Before, it was all done right around COVID.

00:44:00.201 --> 00:44:11.501
Kristina Hughes: Because during COVID, we had beta testers, we had different families, we filed for our patent, we have people who advise us to file for our trademark, all those fun things.

00:44:11.501 --> 00:44:13.961
Kristina Hughes: And so we wait, because they're all there.

00:44:13.961 --> 00:44:15.081
Brian Vermeire: They're backed up.

00:44:15.081 --> 00:44:16.441
Brian Vermeire: It's ridiculous.

00:44:16.441 --> 00:44:17.121
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Oh, I bet.

00:44:17.121 --> 00:44:18.521
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Oh, I can only imagine.

00:44:18.521 --> 00:44:19.381
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Oh my gosh.

00:44:19.381 --> 00:44:19.781
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Okay.

00:44:19.781 --> 00:44:26.841
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Well, tell us, because I know that my audience is dying to know, how can we get these amazing frames for our felines?

00:44:26.841 --> 00:44:29.321
Brian Vermeire: Well, kids, let me tell you how it all works.

00:44:29.821 --> 00:44:36.601
Brian Vermeire: Go on one of those internet machines, you know, a computer, a phone, whatever you may have, then type in this.

00:44:36.601 --> 00:44:37.961
Brian Vermeire: It's very important.

00:44:37.961 --> 00:44:40.421
Brian Vermeire: It's a URL, www.frameyourfeline.com.

00:44:48.081 --> 00:44:51.861
Brian Vermeire: You should be whisked away to paradise on the internet.

00:44:51.861 --> 00:44:54.661
Brian Vermeire: Make sure you get your cat one, two or three frames.

00:44:54.661 --> 00:44:56.261
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And how many do you recommend?

00:44:56.261 --> 00:44:58.781
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Seriously, like if, should I get a frame for each cat?

00:44:58.881 --> 00:45:00.681
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I only have one cat, but asking for a friend.

00:45:00.681 --> 00:45:08.701
Kristina Hughes: Well, we currently have one in our kitchen, one in our bedroom, one in our home office, and two in our living room.

00:45:08.701 --> 00:45:09.301
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Wonderful.

00:45:09.301 --> 00:45:12.281
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And then maybe last question, maybe not.

00:45:12.281 --> 00:45:16.401
Isabel Alvarez Arata: The frames themselves, you have a gold one behind you.

00:45:16.401 --> 00:45:19.561
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Do you have different options for different styles?

00:45:19.661 --> 00:45:20.521
Brian Vermeire: I do.

00:45:20.521 --> 00:45:23.721
Brian Vermeire: I should have had the samples here, but you can, I don't, why didn't we think of that?

00:45:23.761 --> 00:45:24.701
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Why don't we not uncatch them?

00:45:24.701 --> 00:45:25.601
Isabel Alvarez Arata: No, no, it's good.

00:45:26.101 --> 00:45:29.301
Isabel Alvarez Arata: You're building mystery and interest.

00:45:29.301 --> 00:45:33.301
Isabel Alvarez Arata: We're gonna have to rush to the website, the URL you gave us.

00:45:33.361 --> 00:45:34.081
Brian Vermeire: Yes.

00:45:34.081 --> 00:45:36.921
Brian Vermeire: So this is the Gallery Gold, okay?

00:45:36.921 --> 00:45:38.901
Brian Vermeire: And it's ornate and it looks beautiful.

00:45:38.901 --> 00:45:41.301
Brian Vermeire: It looks like something in a museum.

00:45:41.301 --> 00:45:48.781
Brian Vermeire: And you should know, all of the framing material that we use is actual real framing material that professional art framers use.

00:45:48.781 --> 00:45:51.181
Brian Vermeire: So it's not a cheap product.

00:45:51.181 --> 00:45:52.001
Brian Vermeire: It's not gonna fall apart.

00:45:52.861 --> 00:45:54.261
Brian Vermeire: It's the real deal.

00:45:54.261 --> 00:45:57.481
Brian Vermeire: It's gonna look beautiful, exquisite on your wall.

00:45:57.481 --> 00:45:58.901
Brian Vermeire: So this is the Gallery Gold.

00:45:58.901 --> 00:46:05.501
Brian Vermeire: We also have a contemporary silver and it's got the silver wavy pattern to it.

00:46:05.501 --> 00:46:07.261
Kristina Hughes: Some people will use it.

00:46:07.261 --> 00:46:14.321
Kristina Hughes: We have some paintings from an artist, Janine Collini, and she has given us her Koi pond painting.

00:46:14.321 --> 00:46:18.941
Kristina Hughes: So it looks like, and also we've shot down at the Aquarium of the Pacific.

00:46:18.941 --> 00:46:23.201
Kristina Hughes: So with the silver, it looks like your cat is in an aquarium.

00:46:23.401 --> 00:46:24.201
Brian Vermeire: It's amazing.

00:46:24.201 --> 00:46:25.741
Brian Vermeire: We have fish images.

00:46:25.741 --> 00:46:36.341
Brian Vermeire: And when your cat jumps into the frame, which is the contemporary silver, with that blue and the jellyfish swimming behind, your cat looks like they're in an aquarium.

00:46:36.341 --> 00:46:37.901
Brian Vermeire: It looks really cool.

00:46:37.901 --> 00:46:38.761
Brian Vermeire: It's awesome.

00:46:38.761 --> 00:46:39.141
Brian Vermeire: Yeah.

00:46:39.141 --> 00:46:40.361
Brian Vermeire: So we have that.

00:46:40.361 --> 00:46:44.421
Brian Vermeire: We also have the wall buttoned walnut.

00:46:44.421 --> 00:46:45.061
Brian Vermeire: That is new.

00:46:47.821 --> 00:46:51.641
Brian Vermeire: And it's a beautiful walnut with these circles.

00:46:52.361 --> 00:46:56.501
Kristina Hughes: It's a replacement to our traditional cherry wood.

00:46:56.501 --> 00:46:59.601
Kristina Hughes: And we had to divide it with different directions.

00:46:59.601 --> 00:47:01.261
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Certain things weren't available.

00:47:01.261 --> 00:47:13.861
Kristina Hughes: And then two years ago, one year ago, we had a name that frame contest, because we had people who had purchased from us saying, I want a white one and I want a black one.

00:47:14.421 --> 00:47:17.201
Kristina Hughes: So we came up with this pixel white.

00:47:17.201 --> 00:47:21.741
Brian Vermeire: Here, let me, let me show you, let me show you.

00:47:21.741 --> 00:47:24.061
Brian Vermeire: This here is the pixel white.

00:47:24.061 --> 00:47:25.441
Brian Vermeire: And look at the birds.

00:47:25.441 --> 00:47:26.361
Brian Vermeire: That's the mic.

00:47:26.361 --> 00:47:30.921
Brian Vermeire: Yes, your cat can dine with the birds, but it's got this really cool texture.

00:47:30.921 --> 00:47:31.541
Kristina Hughes: You see?

00:47:31.541 --> 00:47:33.281
Kristina Hughes: Beautiful.

00:47:33.281 --> 00:47:33.841
Brian Vermeire: Yeah.

00:47:33.841 --> 00:47:37.561
Brian Vermeire: So that is the pixel white.

00:47:37.561 --> 00:47:42.441
Brian Vermeire: And then we have the black, which has this faux leather look to it.

00:47:42.721 --> 00:47:45.421
Brian Vermeire: It's really it's so it's so marvellous.

00:47:45.421 --> 00:47:49.161
Brian Vermeire: And that's called our steampunk black.

00:47:49.161 --> 00:47:53.801
Brian Vermeire: It's got this brass flex in it, and it really has this cool leather texture to it.

00:47:53.801 --> 00:47:54.541
Brian Vermeire: It's cool.

00:47:54.541 --> 00:47:55.041
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Yeah.

00:47:55.041 --> 00:47:56.021
Isabel Alvarez Arata: That is amazing.

00:47:56.021 --> 00:47:57.561
Isabel Alvarez Arata: So you've really thought of everything.

00:47:57.561 --> 00:48:01.141
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I mean, you've left me wanting for nothing other than to go order.

00:48:01.141 --> 00:48:02.541
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I'm just so impressed.

00:48:02.541 --> 00:48:03.661
Brian Vermeire: The frames are interchangeable.

00:48:03.661 --> 00:48:08.201
Brian Vermeire: So you could have one, you could purchase one of our Frame Your Feline units.

00:48:08.201 --> 00:48:08.681
Brian Vermeire: Okay.

00:48:08.681 --> 00:48:10.121
Brian Vermeire: They're called sets.

00:48:10.121 --> 00:48:11.981
Brian Vermeire: And you can have that on your wall.

00:48:12.261 --> 00:48:15.921
Brian Vermeire: And then let's say you're like, three months from now, I want to switch things up in the room.

00:48:15.921 --> 00:48:17.001
Brian Vermeire: You could take off the goal.

00:48:17.001 --> 00:48:21.381
Brian Vermeire: Well, then you can go to our website and just order the Frame style of your choice.

00:48:21.381 --> 00:48:22.541
Brian Vermeire: And then you could swap it out.

00:48:22.541 --> 00:48:25.641
Kristina Hughes: They cut the little screws right underneath here.

00:48:25.641 --> 00:48:26.981
Kristina Hughes: And you just doot, doot, doot.

00:48:26.981 --> 00:48:27.981
Kristina Hughes: And then doot, doot, doot.

00:48:27.981 --> 00:48:30.601
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Seriously, y'all have thought of everything.

00:48:30.601 --> 00:48:31.381
Brian Vermeire: We try it.

00:48:31.381 --> 00:48:34.461
Isabel Alvarez Arata: You've left me with no words, really.

00:48:34.461 --> 00:48:38.941
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I cannot imagine how anybody could find anything wrong with this product.

00:48:39.101 --> 00:48:44.381
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I cannot wait to get, I, I'm the kind of person that needs more walls for my art.

00:48:44.381 --> 00:48:56.521
Isabel Alvarez Arata: But I have to say some of my art is about to be sacrificed for one of these or two of these or three of these around my home because it is just so special that you can customize it, make it your own.

00:48:56.521 --> 00:48:58.861
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Your cat can be in it.

00:48:58.861 --> 00:49:01.181
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I love all of everything about it.

00:49:01.181 --> 00:49:02.021
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I am sold.

00:49:02.021 --> 00:49:02.841
Isabel Alvarez Arata: You have sold me.

00:49:02.841 --> 00:49:05.301
Isabel Alvarez Arata: If I were a shark on Shark Tank, I would be investing.

00:49:05.301 --> 00:49:07.421
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I don't even care the valuation that you give me.

00:49:07.881 --> 00:49:10.141
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Well, I just want to propose a toast to you guys.

00:49:10.141 --> 00:49:15.241
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Thank you so much for being such a great pair of guests, innovators, cat lovers.

00:49:15.241 --> 00:49:16.441
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Thank you so much, guys.

00:49:16.441 --> 00:49:18.521
Brian Vermeire: Thank you for covering me in pet hair.

00:49:18.521 --> 00:49:23.701
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Oh, well, when I see you in Ohio, I'll make sure to give you one of my branded lip brushes.

00:49:23.701 --> 00:49:24.481
Brian Vermeire: I just want 10%.

00:49:24.721 --> 00:49:25.821
Brian Vermeire: That's all I want, kid.

00:49:25.821 --> 00:49:26.301
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I know.

00:49:26.301 --> 00:49:26.701
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I know.

00:49:26.701 --> 00:49:27.181
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I know.

00:49:27.341 --> 00:49:28.001
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I hear you.

00:49:28.541 --> 00:49:32.021
Isabel Alvarez Arata: We have it on video, so I can't really back out of it.

00:49:32.021 --> 00:49:35.181
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I also want to propose a toast to my executive producer, Mark Winter.

00:49:35.321 --> 00:49:39.781
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Thank you, Mark, and to our audience for joining us for these awesome conversations.

00:49:39.781 --> 00:49:42.341
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Go get your cat a frame.

00:49:42.341 --> 00:49:43.181
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Go.

00:49:43.181 --> 00:49:48.661
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I feel like this is just like the best way to make your day every day, to just see your cat framed.

00:49:48.661 --> 00:49:49.541
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Life is tough.

00:49:49.541 --> 00:49:56.861
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Get yourself a frame, your cat in up by the Eiffel Tower during the day, whatever it is you want.

00:49:56.861 --> 00:49:58.081
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Get yourself one of these.

00:49:58.081 --> 00:49:59.601
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Make your own day.

00:49:59.601 --> 00:50:04.201
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Bring yourself some happiness when you're walking into work or out the door, go rushing to work.

00:50:04.781 --> 00:50:06.761
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Do whatever it is to make us happy, right?

00:50:06.761 --> 00:50:07.421
Isabel Alvarez Arata: That's what we want.

00:50:07.421 --> 00:50:13.561
Isabel Alvarez Arata: We just want to love our pets and make ourselves happy and bring ourselves a little bit of joy every day as much as we can.

00:50:13.561 --> 00:50:17.821
Isabel Alvarez Arata: So here's to a life covered in pet hair, because there's no better way to live.

00:50:17.821 --> 00:50:18.501
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Cheers.

00:50:18.501 --> 00:50:19.141
Brian Vermeire: I'm out.

00:50:19.141 --> 00:50:20.501
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Better click Covered In Hair Balls.

00:50:20.501 --> 00:50:22.721
Brian Vermeire: I guess we could start the After Dark Show.

00:50:22.721 --> 00:50:23.221
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I know.

00:50:23.221 --> 00:50:24.381
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I guess you can.

00:50:24.381 --> 00:50:25.361
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Oh my goodness.

00:50:25.361 --> 00:50:30.121
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Well, jeez, before anybody smogs off, because this is too adult for them.

00:50:30.121 --> 00:50:36.221
Isabel Alvarez Arata: If you want to learn more about Covered In Pet Hair, please visit coveredinpethair.com or petliferadio.com.

00:50:36.221 --> 00:50:40.301
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Thanks for watching and we'll see you in the After Show.

00:50:40.301 --> 00:50:41.741
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Bye.

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