Down the Rabbit Hole – A Conversation with a Rabbit Named Spot & Paloma Baertschi
Spot is a rabbit. But not just your “everyday rabbit.” He is a philosopher who has narrated a book on human-life to his person, Animal Communicator Paloma Baertschi. The book is called “You Set Your Own Limits” and offers much practical wisdom to those of us living in human bodies. This book tells the remarkable story of how Spot insisted that his person needed to learn more before he would speak to her. For two years, he repeated the message that he was a philosopher, and she wasn’t ready to understand what he had to say. Paloma didn’t give up. She refined her understanding and her skills of animal communication, and to this day, the conversation continues.
Spot’s partner (the mother of their children) is named Luna. She has her own gifts of communication and is often the expert when animals have to go to the veterinarian, and the causes of illness are not understood. The rabbit Luna telepathically understands what is needed and is often able to help the veterinarian understand what needs to be done to save the animal’s life, even in surgery situations. You will never underestimate Animal Consciousness and wisdom after you listen to this episode.
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BIO:
Born in the Year of the Horse, I was drawn to these animals from a very early age. I got my first riding lesson when I was five.
I can look back on over 35 years of riding experience, which I shared with Ljomi, my Icelandic horse, for 21 years.
The animals have always been friends to me and we had a very special bond until we were young.
But my professional career initially took me somewhere completely different. I completed a commercial apprenticeship at a major bank, followed by a six-month stay in England, which continued with additional experience in the commercial area, further training to become a management assistant, training to become a webmaster and founding my own internet consulting company.
In the summer of 98 I had the key experience that led me back to the animals; when a horse spoke to me. There had always been animals in my life throughout my life and I had a good relationship with them, but I increasingly noticed that I had lost something. When I came across the book “Conversations with Animals” by Penelope Smith, my path was clear to me.
Since I wasn't just interested in being able to communicate with animals , but also in helping them holistically, I trained as a life energy consultant for animals. I learned various forms of therapy, including radionics, color therapy, Bach flowers and homeopathy.
I later trained as a dog trainer at Turid Rugaas in order to be able to help people with behavior problems (people usually have behavior problems, even though they mean well, and not the dogs).
I have been working full-time as an animal-human life coach since 2004 and combine my diverse knowledge to help people better understand their animal companions from AZ, to increase the quality of life of animals and people in order to achieve an even more harmonious coexistence.
Transcript:
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Announcer: Pet Life Radio This is Pet Life Radio.
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Announcer: Let's talk pets.
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Announcer: Welcome to The Human-Animal Connection show, where we believe we can communicate with all animals.
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Announcer: Join us as we explore the 33 principles and healing methods of The Human-Animal Connection.
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Announcer: As animal lovers, we know that you share our commitment to making the world a kinder place for all creatures.
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Announcer: Together, let's embrace the transformative healing power of The Human-Animal Connection.
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Genie Joseph: Well, hello, everyone.
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Genie Joseph: Welcome to The Human-Animal Connection podcast, and I've been so excited dreaming about this episode.
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Genie Joseph: I think it's going to be so much fun.
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Genie Joseph: Perhaps you've heard me talk with Paloma Baertschi.
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Genie Joseph: She lives in Switzerland at the moment, and she is an animal communicator.
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Genie Joseph: She's been doing animal communication professionally for 20 years and she studied with Penelope Smith and others that you might know.
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Genie Joseph: And we are so excited because she is...
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Genie Joseph: Well, we're talking to Paloma, but we're also talking to three of her rabbits.
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Genie Joseph: We'll be talking to them intermittently.
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Genie Joseph: She'll be doing the animal communication for us as they want to tell the story.
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Genie Joseph: And so one of the rabbits whose name was Spot, he has said that the name of this episode is Down the Rabbit Hole with Spot the Rabbit.
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Genie Joseph: So that's not a title that we ever would have thought of ourselves.
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Genie Joseph: Because humans sort of think about Down the Rabbit Hole a little bit differently.
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Genie Joseph: But anyway, that's fine.
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Genie Joseph: We want to hear what Spot has to say.
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Genie Joseph: But first, Paloma, let's welcome you to the show and tell us whatever you'd like to say to start us off.
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Paloma Baertschi: Well, thank you very much for having me, Genie.
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Genie Joseph: Yeah.
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Paloma Baertschi: So Spot, I don't think I have to introduce myself really.
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Paloma Baertschi: I think this is a long fall.
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Genie Joseph: It's Spot for us.
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Paloma Baertschi: Yeah.
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Paloma Baertschi: So Spot came to me as another rabbit before.
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Paloma Baertschi: He came to me as Spot.
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Paloma Baertschi: And I found out about it when I...
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Paloma Baertschi: After I took the Advanced One course, a couple of us came together every four or five weeks.
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Genie Joseph: Yeah, this is the Penelgy Smith class, Level One?
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Genie Joseph: Yeah.
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Genie Joseph: Yeah, okay.
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Paloma Baertschi: Yes, isn't it?
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Genie Joseph: Yeah.
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Paloma Baertschi: So a couple of people came together to just practice a little bit.
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Paloma Baertschi: And what we used to do is we used to bring pictures from our animals and ask the other questions.
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Paloma Baertschi: And I had this rabbit called Spot, and I want to know whether Spot had been with me before or not.
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Paloma Baertschi: I had asked Spot, and Spot had told me, yes, he had been with me before, as another black rabbit called Blackie.
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Paloma Baertschi: So I took the picture from Spot, to these other two people, and asked them, can you ask Spot whether he has been with me before?
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Paloma Baertschi: And one of them said, well, I don't think that was Spot, but I see a black and white rabbit with hanging ears.
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Paloma Baertschi: And the other one said, hmm, this is strange.
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Paloma Baertschi: I have the same feeling as you have.
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Paloma Baertschi: I don't think this was Spot, but I'm seeing a guinea pig with black and brown hair, curly hair.
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Paloma Baertschi: And then all of a sudden, I was in shock.
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Genie Joseph: Really?
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Paloma Baertschi: Because when I used to have blackie, I used to have another rabbit called honeybee, and honeybee died.
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Paloma Baertschi: So I thought I didn't want to keep blackie alone.
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Paloma Baertschi: So I went to the pet store and got a black and white, rabbit with hanging ears.
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Paloma Baertschi: Took it to blackie and blackie attacked it so heavily that I had to take it back.
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Genie Joseph: Oh, yeah.
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Paloma Baertschi: And then I talked to a friend of mine who used to breed guinea pigs.
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Paloma Baertschi: And she said, well, why don't you take a guinea pig?
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Paloma Baertschi: That might work better.
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Paloma Baertschi: I mean, nowadays I wouldn't do that anymore, but you know, that was, I'm talking 30 years ago here.
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Paloma Baertschi: Yes, yes.
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Paloma Baertschi: So, I took this little tiny guinea pig, which was a brown and black curly haired guinea pig to blackie and blackie attacked that guinea pig as well.
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Paloma Baertschi: So, I had to take that guinea pig back.
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Paloma Baertschi: Now, here you have these two women talking to Spot and Spot transferring them the picture of a black and white rabbit with hanging ears and the brown and black guinea pig with curly hair, which I took as companions for a blackie, which means he didn't tell them, yes, I was blackie.
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Paloma Baertschi: He gave us something much better.
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Paloma Baertschi: He told us about those two animals.
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Announcer: Yes.
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Paloma Baertschi: Only blackie knew about.
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Genie Joseph: Wow.
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Genie Joseph: Wow.
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Genie Joseph: Wow.
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Paloma Baertschi: You know, I was like, wow.
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Genie Joseph: Yeah.
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Genie Joseph: Wow.
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Genie Joseph: Amazing.
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Genie Joseph: Yeah.
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Genie Joseph: Amazing.
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Paloma Baertschi: That was really the first time where I realized the power, the wisdom that was in this rabbit.
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Genie Joseph: Wow.
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Genie Joseph: Now, I know this was the early days before you were a professional animal communicator, and you wanted to communicate with Spot.
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Genie Joseph: Tell us how that journey began.
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Paloma Baertschi: Yeah.
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Paloma Baertschi: Well, even before that, before he told us about those two animals, even before that, I wanted to communicate with Spot.
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Paloma Baertschi: So Spot, here comes Spot and says, I am a philosopher.
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Paloma Baertschi: You are not at my level.
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Paloma Baertschi: You are not going to understand me.
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Paloma Baertschi: Keep on learning.
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Paloma Baertschi: They were like, what?
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Paloma Baertschi: Here I am trying to talk to all different kinds of animals, all different kinds of animals talking to me, and I come to my rabbit, ask my rabbit, would you like to talk to me?
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Paloma Baertschi: He goes like, no, I'm a philosopher.
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Paloma Baertschi: You're not at my level.
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Paloma Baertschi: You're not going to understand me.
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Paloma Baertschi: Keep on learning.
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Paloma Baertschi: So I go like, okay, it's impossible that I have made this up.
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Paloma Baertschi: Just impossible.
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Paloma Baertschi: You know, like, this is not a phrase you make up.
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Paloma Baertschi: Yes, yes.
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Paloma Baertschi: So I kept on learning, and after maybe two months, three months, I come back to Spot and I ask the same question, would you like to talk to me?
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Paloma Baertschi: And I get the same answer.
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Paloma Baertschi: I'm a philosopher.
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Paloma Baertschi: You're not at my level.
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Paloma Baertschi: You're not going to understand me.
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Paloma Baertschi: Keep on learning.
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Paloma Baertschi: So I go back after half a year, I get the same answer.
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Paloma Baertschi: I come back after one year, I get the same answer.
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Paloma Baertschi: And then after two years, after two years, he actually started talking to me.
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Genie Joseph: Wow.
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Genie Joseph: Wow.
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Genie Joseph: Well, the moral of the story, if you're learning, don't give up.
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Paloma Baertschi: Exactly.
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Genie Joseph: It took Spot, well, it took two years for Spot to get you ready to be able to talk.
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Paloma Baertschi: And you know, sometimes I also tell my students, sometimes my students come and say, you know, I just have problems talking to my animal.
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Paloma Baertschi: And well, normally it is more difficult to talk to your own animals or to animals that live with you because we don't really own them.
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Paloma Baertschi: So it is more difficult because you have a certain idea about what they might be thinking and what they might, why they might be behaving the way they are behaving.
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Paloma Baertschi: So basically this is more difficult.
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Paloma Baertschi: However, if you have an animal that just doesn't communicate with you at all, you might have a spot.
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Genie Joseph: You might have a spot.
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Genie Joseph: Yeah.
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Genie Joseph: I mean, there's no way you could have anticipated that your rabbit would say, no, I don't want to talk to you and no way you could anticipate that he would say, I'm a philosopher, and no way you could anticipate that he would let you know that you're not at his level yet.
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Genie Joseph: And continue your learning before you're worthy of a conversation.
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Genie Joseph: So if you have had some troubles trying to speak to your animals, this may be why.
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Paloma Baertschi: Exactly.
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Genie Joseph: So what happened after two years?
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Genie Joseph: What happened next?
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Paloma Baertschi: Well, after two years, he started talking to me and we could talk about anything and everything.
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Paloma Baertschi: It was amazing.
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Paloma Baertschi: I could ask him whatever I wanted.
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Paloma Baertschi: I got an answer.
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Paloma Baertschi: However, and this is something very important for anybody else that is doing animal communication.
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Paloma Baertschi: You have to ask the question.
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Paloma Baertschi: You have to ask.
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Paloma Baertschi: Animals might not tell you things even if they know them and they know you want to know them.
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Paloma Baertschi: If you don't ask, you're not going to get the information.
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Paloma Baertschi: And this is not a story of Spot.
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Paloma Baertschi: So here comes a friend of mine, and she had little cats, kittens.
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Paloma Baertschi: So the kittens were not potty trained yet.
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Paloma Baertschi: So they were peeing around.
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Paloma Baertschi: And my friend asked me to ask Spot if he knew a solution on how to get rid of the pee of the kittens.
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Paloma Baertschi: And I thought, well, this is a strange question, but yeah, sure.
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Paloma Baertschi: I mean, he's a mentor, he's a philosopher.
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Paloma Baertschi: He might know something, you know, like, let's ask.
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Announcer: Yeah.
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Paloma Baertschi: So here comes Spot and says, yeah, you take a little bit of water, put in a little bit of Himalayan salt, and then you let the water and salt dissolve, and then you clean it.
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Paloma Baertschi: And then I go, uh-huh.
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Paloma Baertschi: And he goes, like, it has to be Himalayan salt or stone salt.
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Paloma Baertschi: It can't be sea salt or table salt.
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Paloma Baertschi: No, but not even sea salt.
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Paloma Baertschi: Okay.
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Paloma Baertschi: And the reason he said that was because you have these crystallines, these crystals, these salt crystals.
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Paloma Baertschi: And the stone salt and Himalayan salt have been, has been under a huge amount of pressure.
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Paloma Baertschi: Now, according to Spot, this pressure sharpens the crystals.
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Paloma Baertschi: And even if they are dissolved in water, you get the sharpness of that.
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Paloma Baertschi: That's the Spot, you know, explaining things.
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Genie Joseph: Okay.
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Paloma Baertschi: So, off goes my friend home.
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Paloma Baertschi: And then I get a message from her.
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Paloma Baertschi: This is amazing.
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Paloma Baertschi: You know, every peak disappears.
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Paloma Baertschi: You know, even other stains are disappearing.
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Paloma Baertschi: This is amazing.
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Genie Joseph: Wow.
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Paloma Baertschi: And I go like, okay, Spot, I think we need to have a serious conversation here.
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Paloma Baertschi: Because at that time, I had had his babies.
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Genie Joseph: Oh, okay.
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Paloma Baertschi: So, Luna and him had had babies.
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Genie Joseph: Okay.
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Paloma Baertschi: Six rabbits, not potty trained.
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Genie Joseph: Right.
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Paloma Baertschi: Being around my living room.
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Paloma Baertschi: Me going crazy.
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Genie Joseph: Yes.
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Paloma Baertschi: Because I didn't know how to get those stains out.
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Genie Joseph: Yes.
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Genie Joseph: Yes.
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Paloma Baertschi: Yes.
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Genie Joseph: Yes.
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Paloma Baertschi: So, here comes my friend, asks, she gets an answer.
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Paloma Baertschi: I was in desperate need of that information, and he had not told me.
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Genie Joseph: Oh.
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Genie Joseph: Oh.
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Paloma Baertschi: So, I go like, Spot, why on earth didn't you tell me?
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Paloma Baertschi: And he goes like, you don't.
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Paloma Baertschi: Yes.
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Paloma Baertschi: Exactly.
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Genie Joseph: They won't overload us with information unless we ask.
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Genie Joseph: They're very polite.
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Genie Joseph: That is so.
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Paloma Baertschi: Do you know why he insisted on me asking?
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Paloma Baertschi: And basically, I think it makes sense really, because you have to ask, because when you ask, you change your position.
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Paloma Baertschi: When you ask, you get humble.
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Genie Joseph: Wow.
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Paloma Baertschi: When you ask, you put yourself in a position where you are asking another being for a favor, you're asking for help.
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Genie Joseph: Help me.
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Paloma Baertschi: And that's the position you need to be at.
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Genie Joseph: Yes.
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Paloma Baertschi: To receive information.
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Genie Joseph: Oh, that is so beautiful.
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Genie Joseph: That is just awesome.
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Genie Joseph: I wrote that down.
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Genie Joseph: Well, can I ask Spot a question?
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Paloma Baertschi: Oh, sure.
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Genie Joseph: Because I have an elderly dog and she's a wonderful therapy dog, but she pees in the house, on the rugs, not on the paths, on the rugs, sometimes the paths, but wherever it is.
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Genie Joseph: Could I ask Spot to help me understand what that's about?
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Genie Joseph: And if there's anything that I could do to change it?
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Genie Joseph: Is that two questions?
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Genie Joseph: Can I ask?
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Paloma Baertschi: That's two questions.
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Paloma Baertschi: The problem is Spot doesn't know your dog.
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Genie Joseph: Okay.
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Genie Joseph: Okay.
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Genie Joseph: Sophia is a little Chihuahua.
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Genie Joseph: She's 11 years old.
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Genie Joseph: She's a wonderful little girl.
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Genie Joseph: 26 pounds.
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Paloma Baertschi: What color?
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Genie Joseph: Whiteish.
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Genie Joseph: Whiteish.
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Paloma Baertschi: Okay.
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Paloma Baertschi: Yeah.
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Paloma Baertschi: And how?
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Paloma Baertschi: Oh, there she is.
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Genie Joseph: Okay.
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Paloma Baertschi: Yeah.
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Genie Joseph: I'm holding up a picture for those who are watching on video.
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Paloma Baertschi: Yes.
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Paloma Baertschi: Okay.
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Paloma Baertschi: All right.
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Paloma Baertschi: All right.
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Paloma Baertschi: All right.
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Paloma Baertschi: Okay.
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Paloma Baertschi: And how old is she now?
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Genie Joseph: She's about 11.
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Paloma Baertschi: Okay.
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Paloma Baertschi: Spot says, You know, I usually don't do dogs.
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Paloma Baertschi: Yes, I know.
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Genie Joseph: That's so funny.
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Paloma Baertschi: Funny.
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Genie Joseph: Or maybe Luna.
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Paloma Baertschi: I have my helping animals, because she's not only my mentor, she's also one of my helping animals.
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Paloma Baertschi: And one of the things she said right on from the beginning, I don't do dogs.
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Paloma Baertschi: Let's see if he's doing an exception today.
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Paloma Baertschi: Sure.
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Genie Joseph: Or if maybe this is a question for Luna, which we haven't talked about yet, but we will talk about Luna.
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Paloma Baertschi: Oh.
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Genie Joseph: What?
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Paloma Baertschi: Oh, that's interesting.
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Genie Joseph: What's interesting?
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Paloma Baertschi: Okay.
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Paloma Baertschi: You asked.
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Paloma Baertschi: It's about you letting go.
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Paloma Baertschi: You need to learn to let go.
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Genie Joseph: Just in general, across the board, or in any particular area?
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Paloma Baertschi: In general.
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Genie Joseph: Okay.
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Paloma Baertschi: In general, but it has to do with your childhood.
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Genie Joseph: Okay.
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Genie Joseph: Childhood.
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Paloma Baertschi: You have to go back to your childhood.
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Genie Joseph: Yes.
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Genie Joseph: Okay.
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Genie Joseph: Well, thank you, Spot.
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Genie Joseph: That is fascinating.
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Genie Joseph: And definitely the point of view of a philosopher.
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Genie Joseph: So tell me, I want to know, because I know you and Spot did a project together.
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Genie Joseph: Would you tell us about that project after two years of your own learning and being worthy of conversation with a philosopher?
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Paloma Baertschi: We've had a lot of projects together.
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Paloma Baertschi: Which one do you mean?
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Genie Joseph: Well, I know, I think you wrote a book together, right?
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Genie Joseph: Okay.
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Genie Joseph: You want to tell us about that?
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Paloma Baertschi: Yeah.
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Paloma Baertschi: Oh, yeah.
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Paloma Baertschi: Oh, yeah.
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Genie Joseph: Right.
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Paloma Baertschi: So after two years, Spot, Spot was talking to me.
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Paloma Baertschi: So, and this was when a friend of mine was with me, and we were philosophing around about things.
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Paloma Baertschi: And then I asked my friend and say, look, Spot is a philosopher.
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Paloma Baertschi: Shall we ask him to join us in our philosophy session?
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Paloma Baertschi: So we asked him a question and he started to talk, and he really started to talk and talk and talk and talk, and I was so taking it back.
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Paloma Baertschi: I go like, wow, there's a lot of information coming here.
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Paloma Baertschi: It ended up being two o'clock in the morning when she left my house.
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Paloma Baertschi: Wow.
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Paloma Baertschi: And then I was, I mean, my eyes were just falling, closing, and I was so tired and I wanted to go to bed.
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Paloma Baertschi: I said, well, no, I have to write down what I have learned today.
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Paloma Baertschi: I have to write it down.
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Paloma Baertschi: So I sat down with my pen and paper, trying to write, and here comes Spot and says, you know what, go to bed.
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Paloma Baertschi: I still know tomorrow what I have told you today.
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Paloma Baertschi: I can perfectly repeat it to you tomorrow.
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Paloma Baertschi: And I go like, oh my God, he's really talking to me.
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Paloma Baertschi: Wow.
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Paloma Baertschi: So I went to bed.
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Paloma Baertschi: Next day, I was sitting on the ground, and here comes Spot, hops up to me and says, okay, are you ready?
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Paloma Baertschi: Shall we start?
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Paloma Baertschi: And I go like, yeah, yeah, sure, sure.
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Paloma Baertschi: Let me get pen and paper.
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Paloma Baertschi: So I grabbed my pen and paper, wrote everything down, and I had the whole text together.
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Paloma Baertschi: I was so mesmerized.
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Paloma Baertschi: I go, wow, that's great.
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Paloma Baertschi: And he goes like, well, if you want, we can write a book.
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Paloma Baertschi: Well, and I go like, yeah, great.
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Paloma Baertschi: Amazing.
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Paloma Baertschi: So I start to make plans to write a book.
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Paloma Baertschi: And I contacted another animal communicator of which I knew she had written a book about the conversations she had had with her dog.
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Paloma Baertschi: So I contacted her, and I mean, that was back in the days, that was in 2000 and no, that was in 2000, 1999 or 2000, something around there, you know, and no Amazon, no social media, no nothing, you know?
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Paloma Baertschi: Right.
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Paloma Baertschi: So I contacted her, and then she goes like, well, first thing you need to do before you write a book is you have to find a publisher.
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Paloma Baertschi: Because that's the most difficult thing, is to find a publisher.
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Paloma Baertschi: You need to find a publisher, you know, in order to write the book and then get the book published.
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Paloma Baertschi: And then she pictured it to me as being something really difficult.
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Paloma Baertschi: And I go like, oh my God.
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Paloma Baertschi: So I think, well, I think I'm going to bury the idea of writing a book.
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Paloma Baertschi: Go back to Spot, tell Spot about this, and Spot, we have a problem.
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Paloma Baertschi: You go Spot and says, let's write the book, the publisher will appear.
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Paloma Baertschi: Okay.
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Genie Joseph: And I go like, oh, yeah, go.
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Paloma Baertschi: So I start writing the book with Spot.
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Paloma Baertschi: We start writing stories, we start writing texts, we talk about all kinds of different things.
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Paloma Baertschi: And he tells me and I write and he tells me and I write.
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Paloma Baertschi: And about three years later, I suddenly have the feeling the book is ready.
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Paloma Baertschi: And I go like, hey Spot, the book is ready.
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Paloma Baertschi: Where is the publisher?
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Genie Joseph: Yes.
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Paloma Baertschi: So a couple of days later, I get an email from a ghostwriter.
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Genie Joseph: Okay.
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Paloma Baertschi: Telling me he was writing a book about alternative therapy methods.
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Paloma Baertschi: And he had heard about animal communication.
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Genie Joseph: Okay.
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Paloma Baertschi: And he wanted to interview, he wanted to know if I was okay for him to interview me, so that he could write about animal communication in the book.
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Paloma Baertschi: And I'm like, yeah, sure.
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Paloma Baertschi: Amazing.
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Paloma Baertschi: Great.
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Paloma Baertschi: Let's meet.
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Paloma Baertschi: So we met.
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Paloma Baertschi: And I talk about animal communication with the guy and his wife was there as well taking notes and everything.
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Paloma Baertschi: And we finish and then we were walking down the street.
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Paloma Baertschi: And he goes like, oh, you know, by the way, I'm also a publisher.
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Paloma Baertschi: I mean, my knees started shaking.
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Paloma Baertschi: I started shaking.
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Paloma Baertschi: I stopped breathing.
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Paloma Baertschi: I was like, and he go, and then I hear Spot saying, now, now, now, now, now.
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Paloma Baertschi: And I'm like, now?
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Paloma Baertschi: I'm like, oh, oh, and by the way, I have written a book with my rabbit Spot.
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Paloma Baertschi: And I'm like, my goodness me, this sounds so silly.
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Paloma Baertschi: I have written a book about conversations I had with my rabbit Spot.
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Paloma Baertschi: And he goes like, oh, really?
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Paloma Baertschi: That sounds fascinating.
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Paloma Baertschi: Can you send me the manuscript?
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Paloma Baertschi: Uh-huh.
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Paloma Baertschi: And they were like, manuscript?
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Paloma Baertschi: I don't have a manuscript.
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Paloma Baertschi: And I hear Spot saying, yes.
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Paloma Baertschi: And he goes like, oh, great.
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Paloma Baertschi: I'm so look forward to reading it.
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Paloma Baertschi: And I go like, huh?
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Paloma Baertschi: So I go home.
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Paloma Baertschi: And then I said, oh my God, Spot, we've got all these texts, all these written stories, all these things.
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Paloma Baertschi: No structure, no nothing, you know?
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Paloma Baertschi: Right.
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Paloma Baertschi: And he goes like, well, sit down.
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Paloma Baertschi: I'm going to tell you the structure.
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Paloma Baertschi: Wow.
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Paloma Baertschi: I go like, what?
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Paloma Baertschi: You're going to what?
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Paloma Baertschi: I'm going to tell you the structure.
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Paloma Baertschi: He told me the structure.
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Paloma Baertschi: He told me, you know, four things within the book and the structure.
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Paloma Baertschi: And on the which title, on the which made title, I had to put the subtitles.
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Paloma Baertschi: And where goes what?
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Paloma Baertschi: And then I say, he said, well, I finished that manuscript within really a few hours.
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Genie Joseph: Wow.
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Paloma Baertschi: That was crazy, you know?
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Paloma Baertschi: Like, I go, okay, send it off.
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Paloma Baertschi: And I go, send it off, send it off.
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Paloma Baertschi: But there I was sitting in front of my computer, looking at this button saying send, you know, like, I'm going to press send, I'm going to press send, I'm going to press send now.
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Paloma Baertschi: So I pressed send.
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Paloma Baertschi: And here comes this guy and said, I am so amazed by your manuscript, I want to publish it.
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Paloma Baertschi: Can you believe that?
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Genie Joseph: Wow.
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Genie Joseph: Wow.
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Genie Joseph: What's it called?
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Genie Joseph: What's the name of the book?
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Paloma Baertschi: You Set Your Own Limits.
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Genie Joseph: You Set Your Own Limits, okay?
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Genie Joseph: Yeah.
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Genie Joseph: Okay.
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Genie Joseph: And does Spot get credit?
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Paloma Baertschi: Oh, of course.
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Paloma Baertschi: Of course.
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Paloma Baertschi: Of course.
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Paloma Baertschi: Yeah.
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Paloma Baertschi: Yeah.
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Genie Joseph: That's fabulous.
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Genie Joseph: Well, that's incredible.
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Paloma Baertschi: It actually says Author Spot.
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Genie Joseph: Author Spot.
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Genie Joseph: Okay.
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Paloma Baertschi: Transcription by Paloma Baertschi.
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Genie Joseph: Okay.
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Genie Joseph: Perfect.
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Paloma Baertschi: Perfect.
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Genie Joseph: All right.
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Genie Joseph: Well, now I want to get a little time in to talk about Luna.
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Genie Joseph: That's such an incredible story.
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Genie Joseph: We're going to take a very short break.
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Genie Joseph: We'll be right back and then we'll hear about Spot's wife, Luna, who was also amazing and in different ways.
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Genie Joseph: But we'll hear all about Luna.
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Genie Joseph: We'll be right back.
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Genie Joseph: I'm Genie Joseph and we're speaking with Paloma Baertschi, an animal communicator and her philosopher, Rabbit Spot.
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Genie Joseph: And she's just told us the story of them, how they wrote the book together.
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Genie Joseph: And now we're going to hear about Spot's wife, Luna.
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Genie Joseph: Can we call her a wife?
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Genie Joseph: I don't know what you call a rabbit wife.
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Genie Joseph: Tell us about Luna.
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Paloma Baertschi: Yeah, I call her Spot's partner, actually.
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Genie Joseph: Partner, okay.
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Genie Joseph: Spot's partner.
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Paloma Baertschi: Yeah, so Luna is also a very fascinating soul.
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Paloma Baertschi: She is my shaman and medicine woman, you know, like Spot is a mentor and philosopher, and Luna is my shaman and medicine woman.
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Paloma Baertschi: So yeah, whenever you have a health issue, you can actually ask Luna.
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Genie Joseph: Okay.
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Paloma Baertschi: And I have customers who call me to ask Luna to look into some kind of health issues.
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Genie Joseph: Okay.
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Paloma Baertschi: Whether it is for them, for them personally or for their animals.
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Genie Joseph: Okay.
00:27:40.600 --> 00:27:41.680
Genie Joseph: Wonderful.
00:27:41.680 --> 00:27:44.340
Genie Joseph: Well, let's ask Luna the same question.
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Genie Joseph: So it'll be fun to hear Luna's response to Sophia, my 11-year-old Chihuahua.
00:27:50.480 --> 00:27:51.240
Genie Joseph: Wonderful dog.
00:27:51.240 --> 00:27:51.680
Genie Joseph: I love her.
00:27:51.680 --> 00:28:00.720
Genie Joseph: She's a therapy dog, but she is taken to peeing on the rugs in the house, not wanting to use the doggy door the other dogs use.
00:28:00.720 --> 00:28:13.920
Genie Joseph: So could you ask Luna if there's anything that we need to attend to on the physical level or be aware of, or is this just about me letting go of my childhood issues, as Spot has informed us?
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Genie Joseph: So Luna's take on this.
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Paloma Baertschi: Okay.
00:28:16.680 --> 00:28:23.260
Paloma Baertschi: Luna is quite straight here, just saying Spot already told you.
00:28:23.260 --> 00:28:24.340
Paloma Baertschi: Okay.
00:28:24.340 --> 00:28:28.200
Genie Joseph: Note the one around and trying to get another answer that you're going to like better.
00:28:28.200 --> 00:28:30.580
Genie Joseph: You got to tick the one you got.
00:28:30.800 --> 00:28:31.240
Paloma Baertschi: Okay.
00:28:31.240 --> 00:28:31.920
Genie Joseph: All right.
00:28:31.920 --> 00:28:33.000
Paloma Baertschi: Okay.
00:28:33.000 --> 00:28:33.280
Genie Joseph: Okay.
00:28:33.280 --> 00:28:33.680
Genie Joseph: Good.
00:28:33.680 --> 00:28:38.580
Genie Joseph: Well, tell me a story of how Luna assisted you and say another animal.
00:28:38.580 --> 00:28:47.480
Genie Joseph: I know you've had stories of clients who called you with an animal who were not doing well and were with the vet and how Luna helped that situation or understood.
00:28:47.480 --> 00:28:47.940
Paloma Baertschi: Yes.
00:28:47.940 --> 00:29:17.740
Paloma Baertschi: Well, the situation where I actually found out how powerful Luna is was when a client of mine many, many years ago, at least 20 years ago now, called me because she had a dog, and that dog actually wanted to have babies.
00:29:17.740 --> 00:29:26.400
Paloma Baertschi: And they had this other dog, Jumper, and there was an accident.
00:29:28.680 --> 00:29:33.340
Paloma Baertschi: The vagina was hurt, sort of.
00:29:35.140 --> 00:29:40.320
Paloma Baertschi: And although it was not the vagina, that's what is inside.
00:29:40.320 --> 00:29:43.140
Paloma Baertschi: I don't know what you call it in English.
00:29:43.140 --> 00:29:44.560
Genie Joseph: The uterus?
00:29:44.560 --> 00:29:45.300
Paloma Baertschi: Yeah, exactly.
00:29:46.100 --> 00:29:47.740
Paloma Baertschi: You use that to give birth.
00:29:47.800 --> 00:29:48.520
Genie Joseph: Right.
00:29:48.520 --> 00:29:50.000
Paloma Baertschi: Yeah, right, exactly.
00:29:50.000 --> 00:29:52.620
Paloma Baertschi: So that was hurt.
00:29:52.620 --> 00:29:57.620
Paloma Baertschi: And then she had to rush with a dog to the hospital.
00:29:57.620 --> 00:30:04.940
Paloma Baertschi: So while she was in the car, rushing her dog to the hospital, she called me and she said, we have this problem.
00:30:04.940 --> 00:30:10.360
Paloma Baertschi: I'm going right to the hospital because it's terrible.
00:30:10.360 --> 00:30:14.460
Paloma Baertschi: And she asked me, what does my dog want?
00:30:16.100 --> 00:30:21.160
Paloma Baertschi: And I get from the dog, she doesn't want to be sterilized.
00:30:22.240 --> 00:30:24.440
Paloma Baertschi: And that's the only thing I got from the dog.
00:30:24.440 --> 00:30:26.100
Paloma Baertschi: She just didn't want to get sterilized.
00:30:26.160 --> 00:30:34.020
Paloma Baertschi: And I hear Luna say, I can go with her and just make sure.
00:30:34.020 --> 00:30:36.340
Paloma Baertschi: And I'm like, what?
00:30:36.340 --> 00:30:37.520
Paloma Baertschi: Oh, okay.
00:30:37.520 --> 00:30:42.580
Paloma Baertschi: So I tell my client, Luna's coming with you, whatever reason.
00:30:43.400 --> 00:30:46.980
Paloma Baertschi: So off they go, off goes Luna.
00:30:46.980 --> 00:30:51.460
Genie Joseph: And goes Luna telepathically, by the way, not physically.
00:30:51.460 --> 00:30:52.220
Paloma Baertschi: Oh, definitely.
00:30:53.700 --> 00:30:54.000
Paloma Baertschi: Okay.
00:30:54.000 --> 00:30:57.940
Genie Joseph: So Luna is going to telepathically go to the vet visit with the dog that's injured.
00:30:57.940 --> 00:30:58.300
Genie Joseph: Okay.
00:30:58.300 --> 00:30:59.080
Paloma Baertschi: Exactly.
00:30:59.080 --> 00:31:00.260
Paloma Baertschi: Exactly.
00:31:00.260 --> 00:31:09.840
Paloma Baertschi: And so after a few hours, Luna contacts me and says, everything has gone well.
00:31:09.840 --> 00:31:13.980
Paloma Baertschi: So I call the client and say, have you heard anything from the hospital?
00:31:13.980 --> 00:31:16.540
Paloma Baertschi: And she goes like, no, have you heard anything from Luna?
00:31:16.540 --> 00:31:17.720
Paloma Baertschi: I'm like, yes.
00:31:17.720 --> 00:31:20.400
Paloma Baertschi: Luna says, everything has gone well.
00:31:20.400 --> 00:31:22.740
Paloma Baertschi: And then she said, have they sterilized her?
00:31:22.740 --> 00:31:24.700
Paloma Baertschi: And I go like, I guess not.
00:31:24.700 --> 00:31:29.980
Paloma Baertschi: If Luna says everything has gone well and the dog didn't want to get sterilized.
00:31:29.980 --> 00:31:33.440
Paloma Baertschi: So then she said, well, I haven't heard anything from the hospital yet.
00:31:33.440 --> 00:31:35.240
Paloma Baertschi: I will let you know.
00:31:36.540 --> 00:31:44.400
Paloma Baertschi: So about a half an hour later, she calls me and she said, the hospital had called and they had said, everything went well.
00:31:44.400 --> 00:31:46.380
Paloma Baertschi: They didn't sterilize her.
00:31:46.380 --> 00:31:53.580
Paloma Baertschi: And the vet that actually made the operation called her.
00:31:53.580 --> 00:31:55.760
Paloma Baertschi: I have never done that before.
00:31:55.760 --> 00:31:59.980
Paloma Baertschi: I have sewed, sewed blindly.
00:31:59.980 --> 00:32:01.220
Genie Joseph: Sewed blindly.
00:32:03.700 --> 00:32:08.440
Paloma Baertschi: He sewed the uterus in order not to have to take it out.
00:32:08.440 --> 00:32:09.180
Genie Joseph: Okay.
00:32:09.180 --> 00:32:10.100
Genie Joseph: Okay.
00:32:10.100 --> 00:32:10.600
Genie Joseph: Okay.
00:32:10.600 --> 00:32:13.620
Paloma Baertschi: So, and then he said, he had never done that before.
00:32:13.620 --> 00:32:16.400
Paloma Baertschi: He sewed, sewed blindly.
00:32:16.400 --> 00:32:19.500
Paloma Baertschi: It was like somebody was guiding his hand.
00:32:19.500 --> 00:32:20.260
Genie Joseph: Wow.
00:32:20.260 --> 00:32:22.280
Genie Joseph: Because he couldn't see what he was doing when he was doing.
00:32:22.280 --> 00:32:23.560
Paloma Baertschi: He couldn't see what he was doing.
00:32:23.560 --> 00:32:39.760
Paloma Baertschi: He was just, he just knew he had to do it, but didn't know why he was doing it in the first hand, because the most sensible thing would have been to sterilize the dog, take everything out, and that's what the dog didn't want.
00:32:39.760 --> 00:32:41.320
Genie Joseph: Right.
00:32:41.320 --> 00:32:42.060
Genie Joseph: Wow.
00:32:43.100 --> 00:32:50.660
Paloma Baertschi: So yeah, I mean, my client and I knew who guided the hand of the vet.
00:32:50.660 --> 00:32:53.020
Paloma Baertschi: Yes.
00:32:53.020 --> 00:32:55.220
Paloma Baertschi: But we were so surprised.
00:32:55.220 --> 00:32:56.660
Paloma Baertschi: I mean, I was surprised.
00:32:56.660 --> 00:32:57.620
Paloma Baertschi: I was like, oh wow.
00:32:58.460 --> 00:33:14.280
Paloma Baertschi: And that was the moment when I realized, I can ask Luna to go with other people's animals to the vet, just to make sure the vet find what they need to find.
00:33:14.280 --> 00:33:14.600
Genie Joseph: Okay.
00:33:14.600 --> 00:33:20.900
Paloma Baertschi: Or you're like, Luna points them in the right direction.
00:33:20.940 --> 00:33:25.960
Paloma Baertschi: It sounds maybe a little bit strange, but that's what she does.
00:33:25.960 --> 00:33:28.620
Paloma Baertschi: They point them in the right direction.
00:33:28.620 --> 00:33:39.540
Paloma Baertschi: She makes sure that things are detected, that things are detected that might not be detected otherwise or whatever.
00:33:39.540 --> 00:33:47.520
Paloma Baertschi: And some other things that she does is that she can go with people and their animals to the vet.
00:33:48.180 --> 00:33:53.000
Paloma Baertschi: And the animal is usually calmer at the vet.
00:33:54.440 --> 00:34:04.640
Paloma Baertschi: I mean, I know that from feedback that I have gotten from clients, like, oh, my cat usually gets totally crazy when she needs to go to the vet.
00:34:04.640 --> 00:34:08.760
Paloma Baertschi: And I go, well, shall I ask Luna to come with you?
00:34:08.760 --> 00:34:10.180
Paloma Baertschi: Oh, yes, please.
00:34:10.180 --> 00:34:16.580
Paloma Baertschi: And then I get, when they have been at the vet, I get the information, you know what, my cat has never been so calm at the vet.
00:34:17.580 --> 00:34:19.680
Paloma Baertschi: And they were like, oh, yeah, you're in good shape.
00:34:19.680 --> 00:34:24.120
Paloma Baertschi: And then the next time they called me, can Luna come with us to the vet?
00:34:24.120 --> 00:34:25.100
Genie Joseph: That's wild.
00:34:25.100 --> 00:34:26.060
Genie Joseph: That's wonderful.
00:34:26.060 --> 00:34:29.020
Genie Joseph: Now, is our Luna and Spot in spirit now?
00:34:29.280 --> 00:34:31.120
Genie Joseph: Yes, they are.
00:34:31.120 --> 00:34:31.960
Genie Joseph: Okay.
00:34:31.960 --> 00:34:32.460
Genie Joseph: Yeah.
00:34:32.460 --> 00:34:34.420
Genie Joseph: And you're still communicating with them?
00:34:34.420 --> 00:34:35.180
Paloma Baertschi: Oh, definitely.
00:34:35.180 --> 00:34:36.320
Paloma Baertschi: Yes.
00:34:36.320 --> 00:34:42.720
Genie Joseph: And what is the difference between your conversations when they were physical versus conversations now that they're in spirit?
00:34:42.720 --> 00:34:44.620
Genie Joseph: Any difference at all?
00:34:45.440 --> 00:34:45.740
Genie Joseph: No.
00:34:45.740 --> 00:34:46.180
Genie Joseph: No.
00:34:46.180 --> 00:34:58.860
Genie Joseph: So, you've had, there's no interruption, no discontinuity for an animal communicator like yourself to be able to communicate when an animal is here versus an animal is passed on and is in spirit.
00:34:58.860 --> 00:34:59.280
Genie Joseph: Yeah.
00:34:59.500 --> 00:35:08.380
Paloma Baertschi: Not at all, because we talk to the soul, and the soul is the soul regardless where it is.
00:35:08.440 --> 00:35:09.140
Paloma Baertschi: Yeah.
00:35:09.140 --> 00:35:10.060
Genie Joseph: Okay.
00:35:10.060 --> 00:35:22.340
Genie Joseph: Well, I know we're out of time, but would you just ask Spot and Luna to just one last word they'd like to leave our listeners with, anything that they would like to share?
00:35:22.340 --> 00:35:22.740
Paloma Baertschi: Okay.
00:35:22.740 --> 00:35:43.240
Paloma Baertschi: So, Luna, the information I get from Luna, the message I get from Luna is take care of yourself, take care of your body, which is your vehicle, and just make sure that you feel right.
00:35:43.440 --> 00:35:45.340
Paloma Baertschi: Look after yourself.
00:35:45.340 --> 00:35:47.540
Paloma Baertschi: I mean, concentrate on yourself.
00:35:47.540 --> 00:35:48.700
Genie Joseph: Okay.
00:35:48.700 --> 00:35:49.520
Genie Joseph: Wonderful.
00:35:49.520 --> 00:35:50.180
Genie Joseph: Wonderful.
00:35:50.180 --> 00:35:51.560
Genie Joseph: Thank you, Luna.
00:35:52.760 --> 00:36:01.440
Genie Joseph: And we'll ask Spot, is there anything you'd like to offer up our listeners' purpose of this reading, or the purpose of this session today?
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Announcer: Ha ha ha.
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Paloma Baertschi: Yeah.
00:36:04.820 --> 00:36:08.040
Paloma Baertschi: We need to remember who we are.
00:36:08.040 --> 00:36:09.300
Paloma Baertschi: We are consciousness.
00:36:10.580 --> 00:36:12.180
Paloma Baertschi: Everything is consciousness.
00:36:13.260 --> 00:36:24.600
Paloma Baertschi: And when we remember that we are consciousness and everything else is consciousness, then we can start to feel that we are all one.
00:36:25.600 --> 00:36:27.480
Paloma Baertschi: There is only one.
00:36:27.480 --> 00:36:29.820
Paloma Baertschi: And that one is consciousness.
00:36:29.820 --> 00:36:31.340
Genie Joseph: Wow.
00:36:31.340 --> 00:36:34.020
Genie Joseph: Well, you heard it from the philosopher rabbit that was Spot.
00:36:35.780 --> 00:36:38.360
Genie Joseph: Giving us a lovely message to end the show with.
00:36:38.360 --> 00:36:40.580
Genie Joseph: Well, how can people get in touch with you?
00:36:40.580 --> 00:36:41.900
Genie Joseph: Where should they go to?
00:36:41.900 --> 00:36:44.980
Genie Joseph: What's your website or how can they reach you?
00:36:44.980 --> 00:36:48.060
Paloma Baertschi: Well, my website is www.speciespace.com.
00:36:50.200 --> 00:36:53.440
Paloma Baertschi: That will actually bring you to my German website.
00:36:54.100 --> 00:36:58.240
Paloma Baertschi: On my German website, I have a part, which is in English.
00:36:58.360 --> 00:37:02.880
Paloma Baertschi: You actually get to that English part going to speciespace.com.
00:37:02.880 --> 00:37:03.440
Genie Joseph: Okay.
00:37:03.440 --> 00:37:03.840
Genie Joseph: All right.
00:37:03.840 --> 00:37:04.280
Genie Joseph: So great.
00:37:04.280 --> 00:37:08.160
Genie Joseph: So from the German part of the website to the English part for those English speakers.
00:37:08.160 --> 00:37:11.100
Genie Joseph: And I want to thank you so much for being on the show.
00:37:11.100 --> 00:37:14.900
Genie Joseph: I know we didn't get to cheeky, so we might have to just do another one.
00:37:15.960 --> 00:37:17.140
Paloma Baertschi: Oh, sure we can.
00:37:17.140 --> 00:37:18.120
Genie Joseph: Yes.
00:37:18.120 --> 00:37:18.940
Genie Joseph: Well, thank you.
00:37:18.940 --> 00:37:20.060
Genie Joseph: Thank you for being with us.
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Genie Joseph: I'm Jeanne Joseph from The Human-Animal Connection, and we've been speaking with Paloma Baertschi and her two rabbits, the two rabbits who have lived with her, Spot and Luna.
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Genie Joseph: Thank you so much.
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