Paw 56: The World According to Isaac!
It’s hard to find anybody that has as much personality or is as entertaining as is my guest today, the incredibly talented multi-faceted Isaac Mizrahi, who will be taking center stage again at Cafe Carlyle starting next week.
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BIO:
Isaac Mizrahi has worked extensively in the entertainment industry as an actor, host, writer, designer and producer for over 30 years. He is the subject and co-creator of Unzipped, a documentary following the making of his Fall 1994 collection which received an award at the Sundance Film Festival. He hosted his own television talk show The Isaac Mizrahi Show for seven years, has written two books, and has made countless appearances in movies and on television. He currently serves as a judge on Project Runway: All-Stars.
He is Chief Designer for the Isaac Mizrahi brands, a division of Xcel Brands, Inc. In 2009, Mizrahi launched his lifestyle collection, “ISAACMIZRAHILIVE!” on QVC. His IMNYC collection is currently sold at Lord & Taylor and Hudson’s Bay Company.
Mizrahi has directed productions of A Little Night Music and The Magic Flute for the Opera Theatre of St. Louis. Annually, he directs and narrates his production of the children’s classic Peter and The Wolf at The Guggenheim Museum in New York. He has performed cabaret at Café Carlyle, Joe’s Pub, West Bank Café and City Winery locations across the country.
Mizrahi has his own production company, Isaac Mizrahi Entertainment, under which he has several projects in development in television, theatre and literature. His memoir, I.M., was published in February 2019.
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Announcer: This is Pet Life Radio.
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Announcer: Let's talk pets.
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Announcer: Rappaport to the Rescue with award-winning animal advocate, best-selling author, journalist, and pet products creator, Jill Rappaport.
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Jill Rappaport: Hi, welcome to Rappaport to the Rescue.
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Jill Rappaport: I'm Jill Rappaport.
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Jill Rappaport: I have the most entertaining, exciting guest today.
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Jill Rappaport: And before I tell you who that is, I just want to give you a quick update on this amazing campaign that I'm doing for my second year at Southampton Animal Shelter.
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Jill Rappaport: I always feature the underdogs, the seniors, the pits, the special needs.
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Jill Rappaport: I take the hardest to adopt.
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Jill Rappaport: They're lifers, the ones that usually never get out and are left languishing all around our country.
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Jill Rappaport: And I highlight them by doing heartfelt videos showing how wonderful these animals are.
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Jill Rappaport: All they want is a second chance for a new life.
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Jill Rappaport: Well, this campaign is going so great.
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Jill Rappaport: More than half of my underdogs have been adopted and or in foster.
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Jill Rappaport: I'm further ahead with this campaign, two months in that I was ten months in last year.
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Jill Rappaport: So I'm so thrilled.
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Jill Rappaport: Thank you so much for your support.
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Jill Rappaport: Please go to Southampton Animal Shelter.
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Jill Rappaport: Look at the website.
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Jill Rappaport: You can follow me on social media.
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Jill Rappaport: You can see the videos.
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Jill Rappaport: I post them every three days.
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Jill Rappaport: These are amazing animals.
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Jill Rappaport: And please do your part to make a difference for them.
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Jill Rappaport: Again, my campaign is called A Home for the Holidays and After.
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Jill Rappaport: And please get on board to make a difference today.
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Jill Rappaport: All right, folks, coming up, my guest today puts the F in fun and the E in exuberance.
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Jill Rappaport: He is one of the most famous designers in the world, Isaac Mizrahi.
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Jill Rappaport: And what hasn't Isaac done?
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Jill Rappaport: Besides being one of America's premier and beloved designers, he's also an actor, a singer, TV presenter, and his career continues to soar with his Isaac Mizrahi brand for X-Hell brands.
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Jill Rappaport: You've all seen him on QVC.
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Jill Rappaport: He's been on Broadway.
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Jill Rappaport: He's been a Project Runway All-Stars judge, also a hilarious judge on RuPaul's Drag Race.
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Jill Rappaport: And returning this week, Isaac is back at the Cafe Carlyle for an exclusive winter engagement, debuting his new show called I Know Everybody.
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Jill Rappaport: But with all of his projects and passions, it's his pooches that tug at his heartstrings the most.
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Jill Rappaport: Isaac is such a wonderful voice for the voiceless, and thank goodness for his love and support.
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Jill Rappaport: So when we come back, Isaac Mizrahi will be joining us.
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Jill Rappaport: Get ready, folks.
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Jill Rappaport: And I guarantee it will be a conversation to remember, and one that you do not want to miss.
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Announcer: You know the expression, cats have nine lives.
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Announcer: Well, what if you can give them one more?
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Announcer: The Give Them 10 Movement is on a mission to help give cats an extra life.
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Announcer: How?
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Announcer: With spay and neuter.
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Announcer: Spaying or neutering your cat helps them live a longer, healthier life.
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Announcer: And it helps control free roaming cat populations too.
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Announcer: Learn more about the benefits of spay and neuter, and meet Scooter, the neutered cat, at givethemten.org.
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Announcer: That's givethem, T-E-N, dot org.
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Announcer: We wear fur and we're damn proud of it.
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Announcer: What?
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Announcer: And our four legs and our tail, and we go to the bathroom outside.
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Announcer: Well, we may not be too proud of that.
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Announcer: Sniff around, then mark your spot right here.
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Announcer: Pet Life Radio.
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Announcer: Let's talk pets.
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Announcer: Let's talk pets.
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Announcer: Let's talk pets.
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Announcer: On Pet Life Radio.
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Announcer: Pet Life Radio.
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Announcer: petliferadio.com.
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Jill Rappaport: Hi, welcome back to Rappaport to the Rescue.
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Jill Rappaport: Well, you heard my intro.
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Jill Rappaport: And folks, if you're in your cars, you might want to pull over, because this guy is so much fun and so entertaining.
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Jill Rappaport: You might find it hard to drive while you're listening to him, because you're trying to be laughing so hard.
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Jill Rappaport: Isaac, I am so thrilled to have you back on.
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Jill Rappaport: Would you believe it's been almost five years since you were on the show?
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Isaac Mizrahi: Could you believe it's been five years?
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Isaac Mizrahi: Wow.
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Jill Rappaport: I mean, unbelievable.
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Jill Rappaport: What took you so long to come back on?
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Isaac Mizrahi: I don't know, Dengeling.
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Isaac Mizrahi: I don't know.
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Isaac Mizrahi: I have no other life than actually, no, speaking of, I really don't have another life when it actually, it's all about my dogs.
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Isaac Mizrahi: So we could just do a podcast every single day and I would have more and more and more to talk about.
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Jill Rappaport: Oh, you got it.
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Jill Rappaport: In fact, I'd love you to be my regular.
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Jill Rappaport: Are you kidding?
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Jill Rappaport: You can be my co-host on this podcast.
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Isaac Mizrahi: All right.
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Jill Rappaport: Well, we'll talk all about your dogs.
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Isaac Mizrahi: We'll talk.
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Jill Rappaport: You heard in the intro, you have a laundry list of all your incredible career, amazing achievements, but I know it's the dogs that you care so deeply about.
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Isaac Mizrahi: It really is.
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Isaac Mizrahi: People always say to me, what do you do in your spare time?
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Isaac Mizrahi: Where do you like to travel?
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Isaac Mizrahi: Blah, blah, blah.
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Isaac Mizrahi: I always say to myself, I don't even like to travel.
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Isaac Mizrahi: I mean it.
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Isaac Mizrahi: I travel when I have to for work, but when I have nothing, darling, it's all about being here in my house with my dogs.
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Isaac Mizrahi: I have to say, we recently got it, well, about two and a half years ago, we got a new dog, we got a new child, I should say, Georgie, who we adopted in August of 2020.
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Isaac Mizrahi: I don't even remember, it's three years ago, so whatever that is.
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Jill Rappaport: How many do you have now?
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Isaac Mizrahi: Now we have two.
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Jill Rappaport: Okay.
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Isaac Mizrahi: Dean left the earth.
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Isaac Mizrahi: Dean left the earth about three years ago, and like two months later, we got Georgie, and what we discovered very early on about Georgie, aside from the fact that he is absolutely the most charming, funny, adorable creature, is that he doesn't like to drive in cars.
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Isaac Mizrahi: He gets really ill, you know, totally.
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Isaac Mizrahi: You could see he starts to drool, and he's trying to hold it back.
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Isaac Mizrahi: Then finally he barfs, no matter what, even 15 minutes in the car.
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Isaac Mizrahi: We learned that driving him from where we rescued him mid-island to Bridgehampton.
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Isaac Mizrahi: We learned that immediately about George, and we thought maybe, and he was a puppy, he was three months old, we thought, oh, he'll grow out of it, he'll grow out of it, and he never grew out of it.
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Isaac Mizrahi: I don't know what to do about it.
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Isaac Mizrahi: I'd like this, he just lives here, and there always has to be someone here, whether it's myself or my husband.
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Isaac Mizrahi: My husband and myself rarely are together anymore in the city, which is an hilarious development.
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Isaac Mizrahi: Isn't that just crazy?
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Jill Rappaport: That is so funny, and I'm fostering a dog now, who I'm of course going to adopt because there's no such thing as a foster that I ever give back.
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Jill Rappaport: I'm a true foster fail, but you can hear her barking in the background.
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Jill Rappaport: It's Winnie the Pooper, we call her, and she is so hysterical.
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Jill Rappaport: We have all these breeds of doodles.
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Jill Rappaport: You have the Labadoodle, the Golden Doodle.
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Jill Rappaport: I call her my own separate breed, a Whackadoodle.
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Jill Rappaport: She is beyond.
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Isaac Mizrahi: How many do you have?
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Jill Rappaport: The last time we spoke, it's so sad.
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Jill Rappaport: I always had a six-pack, and now I've lost so many dogs since I've spoken to you.
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Jill Rappaport: We just lost one, my Oscar Mayer, in September.
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Jill Rappaport: I'm down to three.
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Jill Rappaport: And it really feels lonely.
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Isaac Mizrahi: Like what?
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Jill Rappaport: Only three rescues in the house?
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Isaac Mizrahi: Darling, stick around.
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Isaac Mizrahi: We can totally remedy that situation.
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Jill Rappaport: In a minute.
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Jill Rappaport: But I want to talk about what you and your wonderful husband, Arnold.
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Jill Rappaport: I mean, you are such great voices, as I said in the intro for The Voiceless.
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Jill Rappaport: I know you do so much with the ASPCA.
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Jill Rappaport: You were honored by ARF.
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Jill Rappaport: You really are just the most wonderful ambassador for these underdogs.
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Isaac Mizrahi: You know, I have this feeling we're just average, you know.
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Isaac Mizrahi: It's because of like, I don't know, I think it's because of my position in the world.
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Isaac Mizrahi: And it's I'm so happy that I can help in any way to make this cause visible, you know.
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Isaac Mizrahi: I mean, that's one reason I'm really happy to be well known in the world, you know.
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Isaac Mizrahi: But as far as I'm concerned, we're very average, except the fact, as I told you, that we will live our lives in service to these dogs.
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Isaac Mizrahi: And for me, that's not even, that's not, like, I can't do enough.
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Isaac Mizrahi: We're literally, we're in this house, we're on about an acre, literally one acre.
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Isaac Mizrahi: And I say to myself, is it big enough for the dogs?
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Isaac Mizrahi: Like, do they have enough?
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Isaac Mizrahi: Is it a little boring, the same acre?
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Isaac Mizrahi: Maybe we should get a bigger place so they have more room to run around.
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Isaac Mizrahi: They have more adventures, more trees to pee on.
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Isaac Mizrahi: I don't know what, you know, so it's like, we actually consider things like moving in order to accommodate our dogs.
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Isaac Mizrahi: Boredom, you know, it's like, oh, are the dogs really bored?
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Isaac Mizrahi: Because when you take this incredible care about something, then you think, oh, no, now I'm sheltering it.
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Isaac Mizrahi: Now that no adventures, now they're bored.
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Jill Rappaport: Now they don't see any other dogs like, oh, this is what occupies your mind.
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Jill Rappaport: And I know how much you love Arnold.
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Jill Rappaport: I mean, obviously, he's been your partner for so many years and your beloved husband, but I have a feeling, Isaac, we talked about this during COVID because we were alone, but we were never alone because we had our animals.
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Jill Rappaport: And you said they're your best soulmates, right?
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Isaac Mizrahi: Absolutely.
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Isaac Mizrahi: Absolutely.
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Isaac Mizrahi: And you know, like, I have to tell you this, this is a crazy thing.
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Isaac Mizrahi: I may have mentioned this to you before on this show, but I think the reason that Arnold and I adore each other so much is because we each know that if we had to choose two things to leave with, if we had to evacuate, he wouldn't be one of the two things.
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Isaac Mizrahi: It would be Georgie and Kitty.
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Isaac Mizrahi: These would be the two people that would come with me.
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Isaac Mizrahi: And I think I know that he would leave me.
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Isaac Mizrahi: And honestly, like, I'm not kidding you, we were in this car crash once a long, long, long time ago when I first got my first rescue dog named Harry.
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Isaac Mizrahi: So this would be like in like 2000, like 25 years ago, and I was in a terrible, I was kind of pinned in the car and my hips were, my hips were all shattered.
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Isaac Mizrahi: I didn't know it at the time.
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Isaac Mizrahi: Of course, I was just freaking out.
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Isaac Mizrahi: The car was a mess.
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Isaac Mizrahi: They had to trash the car.
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Isaac Mizrahi: They had to cut me out with those jaws of life.
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Isaac Mizrahi: And Harry was in the backseat and Arnold was fine.
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Isaac Mizrahi: He like walked away and they were going to take him to the hospital to check him out, to give him some x-rays and see if he was okay.
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Isaac Mizrahi: I said, you get that dog home, get the dog home, get the dog home.
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Isaac Mizrahi: And of course he got the dog.
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Isaac Mizrahi: He took the dog home first, you know.
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Jill Rappaport: What would have been him getting the medical treatment?
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Isaac Mizrahi: Of course, by the way, they took the dog to the vet first, just to have him checked out.
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Isaac Mizrahi: And then they took the dog and then they took Arnold home.
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Isaac Mizrahi: And then I was in the hospital.
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Isaac Mizrahi: So I mean, it was crazy.
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Isaac Mizrahi: But I was in the hospital and I was having my cat scans and my MRIs and whatever it was.
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Isaac Mizrahi: And I was on the phone.
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Isaac Mizrahi: The minute he said like the dog was home, I was like, okay, that's it.
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Isaac Mizrahi: I'm fine.
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Isaac Mizrahi: I'm fine.
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Isaac Mizrahi: You know, that's all I could think about.
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Isaac Mizrahi: Now give me the painkillers.
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Isaac Mizrahi: I'm fine.
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Isaac Mizrahi: Now give me the painkillers.
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Isaac Mizrahi: Yeah.
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Jill Rappaport: Well, that's what I love about you.
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Jill Rappaport: We've talked about this for years and I've interviewed you so often over the years.
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Jill Rappaport: It's my dream one day to work with you.
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Jill Rappaport: We've got to do some sort of an animal show together, Isaac.
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Jill Rappaport: Come on.
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Jill Rappaport: Or at least a product line.
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Announcer: Darling, pitch it, pitch it.
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Jill Rappaport: Because you know, to me, the best thing in the world, in addition to our rescue animals is laughter.
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Jill Rappaport: So you are my dream man.
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Jill Rappaport: You make me laugh and you love the rescue animals more than anything.
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Jill Rappaport: So I adore you.
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Isaac Mizrahi: Oh, I adore you.
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Isaac Mizrahi: Same thing, same thing.
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Isaac Mizrahi: We have this mutual adoration, I must say.
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Isaac Mizrahi: I must say.
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Jill Rappaport: And your career, I look at everything you've done.
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Jill Rappaport: And like I said, the laundry list of things.
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Jill Rappaport: And now we all get to see you on QVC.
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Jill Rappaport: You've been a part of Excel with this line of yours, which is so amazing.
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Jill Rappaport: And what I am so intrigued by, because you cater to everybody.
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Jill Rappaport: You can get a super small size, but really middle America, which isn't always extra small.
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Jill Rappaport: And I want to get into that because that's why, and I feel like the appeal of you and your success is that you embrace all types of beautiful women.
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Jill Rappaport: Whatever size they are, you love them.
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Jill Rappaport: And just watching these award shows now, are we going back to the super skinny look?
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Jill Rappaport: I noticed a definite trend.
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Isaac Mizrahi: To me, the people who look the best are the ones who don't acknowledge that.
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Isaac Mizrahi: I noticed the truly young, gorgeous ones are not like the actual movers and shakers.
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Isaac Mizrahi: I don't know who.
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Isaac Mizrahi: Cat Cohen, for instance.
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Isaac Mizrahi: I'm just trying to think of the ones who I find really fascinating looking.
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Isaac Mizrahi: I went to see this incredible, incredible musical called Death Becomes Her.
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Isaac Mizrahi: And they're all gorgeous.
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Isaac Mizrahi: Michelle Williams is gorgeous.
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Isaac Mizrahi: Right.
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Isaac Mizrahi: Really thin and she looks incredible in dresses.
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Isaac Mizrahi: But then you have Megan Hilty, who's not a four, she's not a two.
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Isaac Mizrahi: She's probably like an eight or a 10.
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Isaac Mizrahi: So she's just a normal size and she looks really, really great.
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Isaac Mizrahi: And they don't try to cut things that make her look more svelte or do any illusions.
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Isaac Mizrahi: It's really, she just wears whatever clothes that she needs to wear for that role.
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Isaac Mizrahi: And I just found it so incredibly inspiring that we've graduated in fashion.
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Isaac Mizrahi: I think we've graduated from either showing skinny skinny skinny girls or obese girls.
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Isaac Mizrahi: Now, I think there are some women who are actually like 12s and they look really good.
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Jill Rappaport: Is that what you try to do with your line?
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Jill Rappaport: Because I feel like you embrace everybody.
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Isaac Mizrahi: I mean, if you see my shows on QVC, we have many, many women who are not, they're not at all.
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Isaac Mizrahi: I don't think there's one of them who's like a four or a two.
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Isaac Mizrahi: They're usually, I mean, yes, here and there is an extra, extra small, but one of my favorites, this one called Jackie is a good, she's a good 12, she's a good 14, and she looks amazing in the clothes.
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Isaac Mizrahi: She happens to look like Charlize Theron, so that doesn't hurt.
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Jill Rappaport: Wow.
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Isaac Mizrahi: But I have to say, more and more, as I go into the world and I see what's going on, I've been working at the Carlyle now for like almost 10 years.
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Jill Rappaport: I know, we're talking about that.
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Isaac Mizrahi: I've been working on stage for a long, long, long time, and I've been doing shows, and people who come backstage to see me, sometimes they're wearing my clothes, and I usually prefer it when they're in a bigger size.
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Isaac Mizrahi: I don't know why I relate to that.
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Isaac Mizrahi: I relate to people who wear bigger sizes, that's all.
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Jill Rappaport: How about the fact, what I love about you, and I have to show you this because I'm taking them off my feet right now, I'm with you, I'm a flip-flop girl.
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Jill Rappaport: I just saw you do something on Instagram.
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Jill Rappaport: I thought, first of all, what's in to me is what I like.
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Jill Rappaport: I don't go by the trends or the styles.
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Jill Rappaport: I still wear the skinny jeans tucked in my very cute cowboy boots.
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Jill Rappaport: I don't like those big baggy.
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Isaac Mizrahi: Oh yeah, well, I do.
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Isaac Mizrahi: Nothing I like better than big pants, but.
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Jill Rappaport: I don't like that for me.
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Isaac Mizrahi: Back to this idea of juxtaposing really interesting things.
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Isaac Mizrahi: I mean, I'm sure you have a few pairs of high heels in your closet.
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Isaac Mizrahi: I know you do.
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Jill Rappaport: I can't walk in them anymore, because I can barely see, and I feel like I'm going to fall over.
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Isaac Mizrahi: Let's talk about that on some other podcasts.
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Isaac Mizrahi: But no, but I need like in your brain, as like this perfect sort of, I don't know, 30 to 45 year old person.
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Jill Rappaport: Right.
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Isaac Mizrahi: You are going to wear high heeled shoes sometimes, and you are going to wear very skinny, tight things sometimes, and you are going to get your hair done sometimes.
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Isaac Mizrahi: You are going to get your makeup done.
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Isaac Mizrahi: But to do that all at once is not what it's about.
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Isaac Mizrahi: This morning, I was on Instagram, and somebody posted a picture from like 1994 or 5, of Christy Charlton and this beautiful outfit of mine from The Runway.
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Isaac Mizrahi: It's this kind of black strapless top, and then like a midriff, of course, you know, I mean, I haven't even thought about my midriff since the 90s, okay?
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Isaac Mizrahi: But then she has this giant ball gown skirt that's kind of a, like almost like a hip hugger ball gown.
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Isaac Mizrahi: It's fabulous.
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Isaac Mizrahi: And I was so excited because in that picture, you could see her feet, and she was wearing what I made, which were these incredible little, these tiny little flats that looked like sneakers.
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Isaac Mizrahi: They were like, they were almost like wrestler shoes, but they had the stripes, like sneaker stripes.
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Isaac Mizrahi: And I actually reposted the image and I wrote like note shoes, notice shoes or something like that.
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Isaac Mizrahi: Because after saying all that about flip flops and how you want to wear like a ball gown with, you know, with tree torn sneakers.
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Isaac Mizrahi: I mean, I think that's the way we were kind of, we understood that to be a little bit better than wearing the whole glamorous thing all at once, you know?
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Isaac Mizrahi: Like you would work with the stylist so they could sort of rip it apart a little bit, deconstruct it, you know, like maybe the hair is a mess, which I love.
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Isaac Mizrahi: I love messy hair.
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Isaac Mizrahi: It's the same thing as a flip flop, you know?
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Isaac Mizrahi: Right.
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Isaac Mizrahi: No, but you know what I'm saying.
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Isaac Mizrahi: It's like something has to be real and tangible and fabulously human, you know?
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Jill Rappaport: Well, don't you think that's the secret to Isaac Mizrahi's success?
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Jill Rappaport: Look at all the decades that you have been soaring, literally, and reinventing and recreating.
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Jill Rappaport: Wouldn't you say the secret to your success is that you really talk to what America wants and what they want to hear?
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Isaac Mizrahi: Maybe so.
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Isaac Mizrahi: Maybe so.
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Isaac Mizrahi: That could be.
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Isaac Mizrahi: I'm glad you say that.
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Isaac Mizrahi: Of course, as a person who constantly is creating things and appearing places and I sing and I tell jokes and I write a lot, I'm producing a lot of television, etc., I only just do what I think I should do.
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Isaac Mizrahi: I don't step back and go, what's a good important message for right now?
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Isaac Mizrahi: I don't really do things like that.
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Isaac Mizrahi: I just go like, well, here's the funny joke or here's the plot, or here's the song or here's the dress.
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Isaac Mizrahi: It's always something that reveals a kind of vulnerability, but I don't try is what I'm trying to say.
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Isaac Mizrahi: It's just, I guess I'm such a mess that I can only do these kind of crazy things that reveal my vulnerability.
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Jill Rappaport: Well, I've always said from day one, my first interview in the 90s with you.
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Isaac Mizrahi: That was a long time.
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Jill Rappaport: I can't believe you don't have a late night talk show, something on Bravo.
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Jill Rappaport: The personality, honestly, Isaac, everyone agrees with me because you are just so damn funny, and everything you say is just so engaging.
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Jill Rappaport: Time to get a show.
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Jill Rappaport: Now, I know you got a million things going.
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Isaac Mizrahi: I think you're right, honestly.
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Isaac Mizrahi: So the next call, I'm going to arrange with you and my agent, okay?
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Isaac Mizrahi: You tell my agent about that.
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Jill Rappaport: Well, you're doing all these things.
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Isaac Mizrahi: That's right.
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Isaac Mizrahi: No, it's always something I'm thinking about because I did love doing that talk show.
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Isaac Mizrahi: I love that.
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Isaac Mizrahi: That was, I think, like my favorite thing.
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Isaac Mizrahi: But I think you're right.
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Isaac Mizrahi: I think maybe the thing is maybe to try to find a late night situation because then you can really just say whatever you want.
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Isaac Mizrahi: And it's better if you say whatever you want.
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Jill Rappaport: Yes, and just be you.
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Isaac Mizrahi: Well, that's the truth.
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Isaac Mizrahi: And I started as a performer, as I told this story so many times.
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Isaac Mizrahi: I was a kid doing female impersonations in like the garage, and people would come and see me do like Shirley Bassey.
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Isaac Mizrahi: Then I went to Performing Arts High School and I was an actor, and then I went to Parsons.
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Isaac Mizrahi: It's a long road here.
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Isaac Mizrahi: And in 1998 or something, when I made this major shift into, I was trying to make a major shift into show business, and I started booting up my one-man show, and I started booting up this talk show that I did for seven or eight years.
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Jill Rappaport: Where did the talk show run again?
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Jill Rappaport: What network?
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Isaac Mizrahi: On Oprah's, what was it called again?
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Jill Rappaport: Oh, Oxygen.
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Isaac Mizrahi: Oxygen, and then it was on style.
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Isaac Mizrahi: First it was on Oxygen for like four years, then it was on style for three years.
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Isaac Mizrahi: But anyway, the point is that when I was doing all of that, it was like a conscious kind of a shift into something back to what I really, really wanted to do.
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Isaac Mizrahi: And in the interim, like it's very hard to separate one's love of something.
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Isaac Mizrahi: I love clothes.
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Isaac Mizrahi: It's like some people love to cook.
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Isaac Mizrahi: By the way, I love to cook.
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Isaac Mizrahi: I know you like to cook.
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Isaac Mizrahi: Do you like to cook?
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Jill Rappaport: Are you kidding?
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Jill Rappaport: I think Carrie Bradshaw in A Sex and the City, she had the best time that she uses her oven for storage.
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Isaac Mizrahi: Right.
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Isaac Mizrahi: I don't know why I thought you liked to cook.
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Jill Rappaport: Oh God, no, I'm the worst.
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Jill Rappaport: I don't know how to do anything.
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Isaac Mizrahi: I really like to cook.
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Isaac Mizrahi: But in other words, like there are some things that you're just not gonna stop doing.
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Isaac Mizrahi: I'll probably never stop doing clothes because I really like them.
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Isaac Mizrahi: So if there are people out there to buy them, then I will make them.
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Isaac Mizrahi: So even as I transition into another kind of creativity, there's no way I'm gonna drop it because also it's who I am.
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Isaac Mizrahi: I remember I was doing the costumes for that show on Broadway called The Women.
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Isaac Mizrahi: It was a revival in 2001.
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Isaac Mizrahi: So that's how long that was ago.
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Isaac Mizrahi: And it was with Cynthia Nixon and Kristen Johnston and the fabulous Jennifer Coolidge.
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Isaac Mizrahi: It was a lot of people.
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Isaac Mizrahi: And we were all at Undertwaal one night.
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Isaac Mizrahi: There's a restaurant in the theater district called Undertwaal.
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Isaac Mizrahi: Everybody goes after theater.
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Isaac Mizrahi: And I saw Cindy Adams, the crazed wonderful columnist Cindy Adams.
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Jill Rappaport: She's in her 90s now, right?
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Isaac Mizrahi: She had to be in her 90s.
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Isaac Mizrahi: And I went over to say hello, she was like, Isaac, darling.
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Isaac Mizrahi: And I said, I'm trying to transition.
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Isaac Mizrahi: I'm trying to go into show business.
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Isaac Mizrahi: I was just like, darling, do not leave the fashion thing in the dust because that's the car that drove you to the party.
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Isaac Mizrahi: You never leave that car.
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Isaac Mizrahi: You do not leave.
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Isaac Mizrahi: And I was like, you know, and it was so annoying.
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Isaac Mizrahi: I wanted to say, hey, Cindy, get with it.
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Isaac Mizrahi: This is my life, you know, but she was right.
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Isaac Mizrahi: She happened to be right, you know, so.
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Jill Rappaport: The old adage, never give up your day job, right?
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Isaac Mizrahi: Right, don't leave your day job.
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Jill Rappaport: Yeah, but honestly, Isaac, I've said this to our dear friend, mutual friend, Linda Lambert.
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Jill Rappaport: There is a talk show out there for you and it's just waiting to be born.
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Isaac Mizrahi: I think, you know what, I have a really good idea.
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Isaac Mizrahi: We're going to maybe start pitching something soon, so stay tuned.
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Jill Rappaport: I see it on E or Bravo and please take me along.
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Jill Rappaport: I could be your pet reporter.
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Isaac Mizrahi: I love that.
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Isaac Mizrahi: Okay, you could be the bartender.
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Isaac Mizrahi: Wait a second, but you know what?
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Isaac Mizrahi: By the way, speaking of Linda, isn't she the most inspiring person?
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Jill Rappaport: Oh my gosh.
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Isaac Mizrahi: This is for her love of animals.
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Isaac Mizrahi: Literally, you could text her at three in the morning and go like, I was thinking about you and you'll get back five memes of animals in danger, and could you please give money to this charity?
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Isaac Mizrahi: That is now, she is really, really exemplary.
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Jill Rappaport: Unbelievable.
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Jill Rappaport: For our audience that doesn't know Linda Lambert, because Linda prefers to really be out of the spotlight.
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Jill Rappaport: She's a board member with the ASPCA.
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Isaac Mizrahi: Well, Linda has to be in a spotlight for a minute because you were talking about exemplary people, and it's like she is really, really exemplary.
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Jill Rappaport: Yes.
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Jill Rappaport: What I love about her, she is pure, save those animals.
00:22:38.541 --> 00:22:39.401
Jill Rappaport: She's like us.
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Jill Rappaport: She wakes up in the morning, it's my oxygen.
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Jill Rappaport: She's right there with us.
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Isaac Mizrahi: Of course, right now, those poor animals in LA.
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Isaac Mizrahi: You see one more horrible footage of a bunch of cubs coming out of the forest, oh my God, with a firefighter, and you think like, Jesus, and horses running around, not knowing where the hell to go.
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Isaac Mizrahi: I mean, it's just so, yeah, so I feel like that's an incredible, incredible thing to focus on.
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Isaac Mizrahi: Because of course, like when these things happen, the first thing you think about is your family and your-
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Jill Rappaport: But they are our family.
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Isaac Mizrahi: People.
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Isaac Mizrahi: But for me, the first thing I think about is animals, like what is going on with those animals.
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Jill Rappaport: And it's so important because again, the wildfires you watch and you're holding your breath, hoping not to see those images and hoping that they have gotten to safety and people are taking them in and taking care of them.
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Jill Rappaport: But it's our worst nightmare.
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Jill Rappaport: It just keeps us up all night thinking about-
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Jill Rappaport: I mean, the poor people, thank God, humans have the ability to get in the car, get out.
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Jill Rappaport: But if we don't take the animals, what happens?
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Jill Rappaport: Right?
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Isaac Mizrahi: I don't know.
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Isaac Mizrahi: I don't know.
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Isaac Mizrahi: I don't know.
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Isaac Mizrahi: I don't know.
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Isaac Mizrahi: And I have this fantastic story about a friend of mine, Janine Robbins, who went 9-11.
00:23:54.581 --> 00:23:56.441
Isaac Mizrahi: So that's also years ago, right?
00:23:56.441 --> 00:23:57.341
Isaac Mizrahi: 9-11.
00:23:57.341 --> 00:24:04.781
Isaac Mizrahi: But she tells the story about how when she was evacuated, she lives across the street from those buildings that went down, right?
00:24:04.781 --> 00:24:05.861
Isaac Mizrahi: Literally across the street.
00:24:05.861 --> 00:24:08.061
Isaac Mizrahi: She lived in Battery Park, right?
00:24:08.061 --> 00:24:12.301
Isaac Mizrahi: And they evacuated them when the towers went down and she was with her baby.
00:24:12.301 --> 00:24:15.041
Isaac Mizrahi: She had her baby and she had her dog, right?
00:24:15.041 --> 00:24:20.381
Isaac Mizrahi: And she got to the bus that was taking them to whatever, to the ferry to Staten Island or wherever they were going.
00:24:20.381 --> 00:24:24.121
Isaac Mizrahi: Because everybody was evacuating to Staten Island or something quickly to get them out.
00:24:24.121 --> 00:24:26.921
Isaac Mizrahi: And she got to the bus and the guy was like, you can't take your dog.
00:24:26.921 --> 00:24:27.361
Isaac Mizrahi: I'm sorry.
00:24:27.361 --> 00:24:32.521
Isaac Mizrahi: And she was like, well, if you can't take the dog, then me, the baby and the dog are staying right here.
00:24:32.521 --> 00:24:35.181
Isaac Mizrahi: Like, I will just stand here for the next bus.
00:24:35.181 --> 00:24:36.541
Isaac Mizrahi: And the guy said, okay, get on.
00:24:36.541 --> 00:24:37.821
Isaac Mizrahi: So she got her dog on.
00:24:37.821 --> 00:24:41.341
Isaac Mizrahi: And I always thought that was the bravest, most fabulous thing.
00:24:41.341 --> 00:24:44.741
Isaac Mizrahi: I mean, I don't know what anybody else would do, but I would do that.
00:24:44.741 --> 00:24:51.421
Isaac Mizrahi: I would stand there and say, okay, well, I'm just going to burn in the flames of 9-11 with my dog, if you don't let me on this bus.
00:24:51.421 --> 00:24:55.881
Jill Rappaport: But thank goodness, that was 9-11 so many years ago.
00:24:56.181 --> 00:25:01.061
Jill Rappaport: And I think today, they would never stop you from getting on the bus with your dog, right?
00:25:01.061 --> 00:25:02.101
Isaac Mizrahi: I hope not, darling.
00:25:02.101 --> 00:25:02.981
Isaac Mizrahi: I don't know.
00:25:02.981 --> 00:25:04.421
Isaac Mizrahi: I don't know.
00:25:04.421 --> 00:25:05.721
Jill Rappaport: I think things have changed.
00:25:05.721 --> 00:25:16.001
Jill Rappaport: I think there was a time, and they're now trying to pass a bill that people can actually take time off from work if they've lost a pet, like mourning that pet.
00:25:16.001 --> 00:25:17.121
Jill Rappaport: And that's amazing.
00:25:17.121 --> 00:25:22.001
Jill Rappaport: We've come such a long way because years ago, oh, your dog passed away.
00:25:22.001 --> 00:25:24.141
Jill Rappaport: You couldn't show the emotion because people wouldn't get it.
00:25:24.521 --> 00:25:29.141
Jill Rappaport: Even though we know, and we've always known, what the pain and the loss does to us.
00:25:29.141 --> 00:25:31.761
Jill Rappaport: A piece of our heart goes with every one of those animals.
00:25:31.761 --> 00:25:32.681
Isaac Mizrahi: Well, yes.
00:25:32.681 --> 00:25:33.101
Isaac Mizrahi: You know what?
00:25:33.101 --> 00:25:39.621
Isaac Mizrahi: I got to say, because having lost two dogs, first I lost Harry, which was the hardest thing in my life.
00:25:39.621 --> 00:25:42.461
Isaac Mizrahi: But it was also, I can't explain this to you.
00:25:42.461 --> 00:25:48.961
Isaac Mizrahi: Maybe you'll understand this, Jill, because it's like something that I feel maybe is out there.
00:25:48.961 --> 00:25:53.361
Isaac Mizrahi: Like, when he passed, like it was devastating, because where is he?
00:25:53.361 --> 00:25:56.821
Isaac Mizrahi: Like, where is the physical evidence of this boy, you know?
00:25:56.821 --> 00:26:05.041
Isaac Mizrahi: But also, I felt like inspired, because I thought like he passed into a crazy realm where he's probably happier.
00:26:05.041 --> 00:26:08.961
Isaac Mizrahi: And of course, we all watched this integration, which is very difficult as well.
00:26:08.961 --> 00:26:14.001
Isaac Mizrahi: And he couldn't see and he couldn't eat and he couldn't move and he was messing himself and it was a mess.
00:26:14.001 --> 00:26:17.801
Isaac Mizrahi: And finally, we have this incredible vet and she came and she put him down.
00:26:17.801 --> 00:26:19.881
Isaac Mizrahi: She was like, I can't believe you waited this long.
00:26:19.881 --> 00:26:23.441
Isaac Mizrahi: You know, it's like, really next time, maybe give it a minute, you know.
00:26:23.441 --> 00:26:30.601
Isaac Mizrahi: But the point is, like, when he finally passed, I did feel like the spirit was very much.
00:26:30.601 --> 00:26:33.001
Isaac Mizrahi: And I swear to you, like, I know this sounds crazy.
00:26:33.001 --> 00:26:34.301
Isaac Mizrahi: I still visit Harry.
00:26:34.301 --> 00:26:36.621
Isaac Mizrahi: I still have talks with him.
00:26:36.621 --> 00:26:37.721
Isaac Mizrahi: I still visit with him.
00:26:37.721 --> 00:26:43.681
Isaac Mizrahi: This is like, so this would be like, he died in 2016, I think 2016.
00:26:43.681 --> 00:26:49.601
Isaac Mizrahi: But I swear to you, sometimes at night or in the bathtub, weirdly in the bathtub, I go like, hey, Harry, how are you?
00:26:49.601 --> 00:26:50.981
Isaac Mizrahi: And we have like these conversations.
00:26:51.421 --> 00:26:52.981
Isaac Mizrahi: It's crazy, but it happens.
00:26:52.981 --> 00:26:54.541
Isaac Mizrahi: And I feel like it's true.
00:26:54.541 --> 00:26:55.781
Isaac Mizrahi: I feel like it's true.
00:26:55.781 --> 00:27:00.641
Isaac Mizrahi: Maybe that's just me trying to kind of like overcompensate for the grief.
00:27:00.641 --> 00:27:02.021
Jill Rappaport: I love that though.
00:27:02.141 --> 00:27:03.021
Jill Rappaport: And I believe you.
00:27:03.021 --> 00:27:05.641
Jill Rappaport: I believe you really feel it and you're having these conversations.
00:27:05.641 --> 00:27:09.701
Jill Rappaport: What does Arnold say if he's walking by the bathroom and here's your talking about Harry?
00:27:09.701 --> 00:27:11.541
Isaac Mizrahi: Oh my God, Arnold.
00:27:11.541 --> 00:27:12.781
Isaac Mizrahi: Don't even ask.
00:27:12.781 --> 00:27:13.881
Isaac Mizrahi: Poor guy.
00:27:13.881 --> 00:27:21.061
Isaac Mizrahi: I mean, and it's funny because we had these two dogs called, well, first I had Harry, and then I met Arnold and we got Dean.
00:27:21.061 --> 00:27:22.001
Isaac Mizrahi: He got Dean.
00:27:22.001 --> 00:27:23.861
Isaac Mizrahi: Dean was like this little beagle.
00:27:23.861 --> 00:27:28.181
Isaac Mizrahi: And he was the cutest boy in the world, but he was a monster.
00:27:28.181 --> 00:27:30.341
Isaac Mizrahi: He just did the meanest.
00:27:30.341 --> 00:27:33.341
Isaac Mizrahi: He was hilarious and just a little too smart.
00:27:33.341 --> 00:27:36.661
Isaac Mizrahi: You know, like they're so smart that they just are nasty.
00:27:36.661 --> 00:27:38.981
Isaac Mizrahi: He was a little nasty little and he wouldn't shut up.
00:27:38.981 --> 00:27:41.161
Isaac Mizrahi: He was very vocal and loud.
00:27:41.161 --> 00:27:53.161
Isaac Mizrahi: And when he passed, you know, as relieved as we were, the loss was greater because of like, because of the big personality, the big giant humanness of the personality.
00:27:53.161 --> 00:28:02.001
Isaac Mizrahi: Like he was a dog, but he was also part human because he was so, I don't know what, like argumentative and like, you know, malevolent.
00:28:02.001 --> 00:28:04.481
Isaac Mizrahi: I mean, he really was, he was a monster.
00:28:04.481 --> 00:28:09.361
Isaac Mizrahi: But when he died, boy, that was, and it was like, we were fighting till the last second.
00:28:09.361 --> 00:28:13.641
Isaac Mizrahi: Me and Arnold was screaming the night before he died, like, don't you dare move that.
00:28:13.641 --> 00:28:14.901
Isaac Mizrahi: Don't you dare move that.
00:28:14.901 --> 00:28:16.761
Isaac Mizrahi: Like, you know, keep him on his blanket.
00:28:18.061 --> 00:28:18.641
Isaac Mizrahi: He was crazy.
00:28:18.641 --> 00:28:20.181
Isaac Mizrahi: And then the next morning, he died.
00:28:20.181 --> 00:28:21.821
Isaac Mizrahi: But it's like, it's funny.
00:28:21.821 --> 00:28:25.401
Isaac Mizrahi: It doesn't matter if they're the sweetest people in the world.
00:28:25.401 --> 00:28:30.881
Isaac Mizrahi: If they die, like even the monsters, you know, you miss those more, I've discovered.
00:28:30.881 --> 00:28:33.141
Jill Rappaport: Oh, I love the feistier they are, the better.
00:28:33.141 --> 00:28:33.661
Jill Rappaport: You do.
00:28:33.661 --> 00:28:35.401
Jill Rappaport: I love the little devil dogs.
00:28:35.401 --> 00:28:36.821
Isaac Mizrahi: I scream laughing.
00:28:36.821 --> 00:28:44.301
Isaac Mizrahi: You know, it's like you come home and the house is like covered in feathers because the dog, I'm screaming laughing and Arnold is looking at me like, really?
00:28:44.301 --> 00:28:45.581
Isaac Mizrahi: And let's clean it up.
00:28:45.661 --> 00:28:49.621
Isaac Mizrahi: You know, what the hell, what else do we have to do today?
00:28:49.641 --> 00:28:56.841
Jill Rappaport: Well, you know, talking about your career and everything you've done, is there anything left on your bucket list at this point in life?
00:28:56.841 --> 00:28:57.801
Isaac Mizrahi: I have to tell you this.
00:28:57.801 --> 00:29:09.781
Isaac Mizrahi: I hate to tell you this because I feel like it makes me sound like a crazy person, which is that I wrote this novel that I'm hoping will be, I'm probably going to take it out like in a couple of months.
00:29:09.801 --> 00:29:10.781
Isaac Mizrahi: I'm just finishing.
00:29:10.781 --> 00:29:11.781
Isaac Mizrahi: It's been years.
00:29:11.781 --> 00:29:12.801
Isaac Mizrahi: I've been working on it.
00:29:12.801 --> 00:29:13.161
Isaac Mizrahi: You know what?
00:29:13.261 --> 00:29:16.581
Isaac Mizrahi: I've been working on it in earnest since I finished my memoir.
00:29:16.581 --> 00:29:19.321
Isaac Mizrahi: That was 2017 or 2018.
00:29:19.321 --> 00:29:21.741
Isaac Mizrahi: I've been working on it every day since then.
00:29:21.741 --> 00:29:25.381
Isaac Mizrahi: But before that, I was collecting this thought.
00:29:25.381 --> 00:29:28.481
Isaac Mizrahi: I had just this overarching thought about a thing.
00:29:29.281 --> 00:29:29.901
Isaac Mizrahi: You know what?
00:29:30.381 --> 00:29:36.381
Isaac Mizrahi: For literally, I don't know how many years, I've been thinking about it since the early 80s, since my 20s.
00:29:36.381 --> 00:29:37.581
Jill Rappaport: This particular book.
00:29:37.581 --> 00:29:38.601
Isaac Mizrahi: Particular novel.
00:29:38.601 --> 00:29:39.681
Isaac Mizrahi: It's a novel.
00:29:39.681 --> 00:29:41.001
Jill Rappaport: Tell me what's the premises.
00:29:41.001 --> 00:29:42.001
Isaac Mizrahi: I'm not going to tell you.
00:29:42.221 --> 00:29:42.781
Jill Rappaport: Oh, you can't.
00:29:42.781 --> 00:29:43.201
Jill Rappaport: You can't.
00:29:43.201 --> 00:29:43.561
Jill Rappaport: Okay.
00:29:43.561 --> 00:29:49.641
Isaac Mizrahi: The big surprise in that it's really not about the fashion world, not about the entertainment business really.
00:29:49.641 --> 00:29:57.641
Isaac Mizrahi: I mean, there's a little bit about the entertainment business, but it's more about a bunch of people, a bunch of people, like an alternative family.
00:29:57.641 --> 00:29:59.261
Isaac Mizrahi: It's really, really interesting.
00:29:59.261 --> 00:30:02.401
Isaac Mizrahi: And there's a lot of sex in the book.
00:30:02.401 --> 00:30:03.741
Isaac Mizrahi: That's all I'll tell you.
00:30:03.741 --> 00:30:07.521
Isaac Mizrahi: Like every other page is some massive, like, sex scene.
00:30:07.521 --> 00:30:14.501
Jill Rappaport: Well, I could see it maybe being a movie, you know, if it's X-rated, but this sounds very interesting.
00:30:14.501 --> 00:30:14.901
Jill Rappaport: Wow.
00:30:14.901 --> 00:30:19.281
Jill Rappaport: So we're going to really get insight into Isaac's wild mind with this one.
00:30:19.281 --> 00:30:20.341
Isaac Mizrahi: Maybe so.
00:30:20.341 --> 00:30:20.961
Isaac Mizrahi: Maybe so.
00:30:20.961 --> 00:30:22.581
Isaac Mizrahi: But when you say, what haven't I done?
00:30:22.581 --> 00:30:24.761
Isaac Mizrahi: I mean, I've written books, but I've never written...
00:30:24.761 --> 00:30:30.161
Isaac Mizrahi: I wrote a graphic novel, but I never, you know, called Sandy the Supermodel, but I never wrote, I never wrote a novel novel.
00:30:30.161 --> 00:30:33.681
Isaac Mizrahi: And this is like my greatest, you know, I hope this happens.
00:30:33.681 --> 00:30:34.141
Isaac Mizrahi: I hope this...
00:30:34.141 --> 00:30:34.641
Isaac Mizrahi: Who knows?
00:30:34.641 --> 00:30:34.901
Isaac Mizrahi: Who knows?
00:30:34.981 --> 00:30:36.841
Isaac Mizrahi: People might not like it, but we'll see.
00:30:36.841 --> 00:30:39.781
Jill Rappaport: But it seems everything you do gets greenlit.
00:30:39.781 --> 00:30:41.061
Isaac Mizrahi: Are you crazy?
00:30:41.061 --> 00:30:41.921
Isaac Mizrahi: Oh my God.
00:30:41.921 --> 00:30:44.061
Jill Rappaport: Well, I've certainly read and heard on...
00:30:44.061 --> 00:30:45.901
Jill Rappaport: watched all of your accomplishments.
00:30:45.901 --> 00:30:48.761
Jill Rappaport: I mean, I can't imagine anyone turning you down.
00:30:48.761 --> 00:30:51.201
Isaac Mizrahi: Well, darling, well, well, well.
00:30:51.201 --> 00:30:53.961
Isaac Mizrahi: That's a whole other podcast that we have to talk about.
00:30:53.961 --> 00:30:56.161
Isaac Mizrahi: You know, I have a podcast for about a year.
00:30:56.201 --> 00:30:57.861
Isaac Mizrahi: I don't know if I'm going to do it again.
00:30:57.861 --> 00:30:59.681
Isaac Mizrahi: I have to tell you, I admire you so much.
00:30:59.921 --> 00:31:01.761
Isaac Mizrahi: It's such a commitment, you know?
00:31:01.761 --> 00:31:02.541
Isaac Mizrahi: It is, yes.
00:31:02.541 --> 00:31:03.041
Isaac Mizrahi: It really is.
00:31:03.041 --> 00:31:04.381
Isaac Mizrahi: It's like a lifestyle, you know?
00:31:04.561 --> 00:31:05.441
Isaac Mizrahi: And you're born for it.
00:31:05.441 --> 00:31:06.041
Isaac Mizrahi: You're so good.
00:31:06.041 --> 00:31:07.161
Isaac Mizrahi: I love your podcast.
00:31:07.161 --> 00:31:13.601
Isaac Mizrahi: But the point is, like, I honestly don't know after a while where that leads.
00:31:13.601 --> 00:31:15.061
Isaac Mizrahi: I don't exactly know where it leads.
00:31:15.061 --> 00:31:16.881
Isaac Mizrahi: Like I was saying, it's a kind of like, so I...
00:31:16.881 --> 00:31:21.361
Isaac Mizrahi: But I do know that I would love to do, like you said, a talk show.
00:31:21.361 --> 00:31:23.881
Isaac Mizrahi: That would be a really, really, really great thing.
00:31:23.881 --> 00:31:29.781
Jill Rappaport: I think now is your time to really show them the whole world according to Isaac.
00:31:29.781 --> 00:31:30.541
Isaac Mizrahi: I love that.
00:31:30.541 --> 00:31:32.021
Isaac Mizrahi: That's a good title, too.
00:31:32.021 --> 00:31:35.601
Jill Rappaport: People should really go to the Carlyle because they really do get it.
00:31:35.601 --> 00:31:38.941
Jill Rappaport: The most of you that anybody can get in one place.
00:31:38.941 --> 00:31:39.701
Isaac Mizrahi: Do you agree?
00:31:39.701 --> 00:31:40.721
Isaac Mizrahi: Yes, I would agree.
00:31:40.721 --> 00:31:44.201
Isaac Mizrahi: That is also like either the Carlyle or one of my shows coming up.
00:31:44.841 --> 00:31:47.841
Isaac Mizrahi: I have the Carlyle for 10 days, for 10 shows.
00:31:47.841 --> 00:31:49.021
Jill Rappaport: When is one of the dates?
00:31:49.021 --> 00:31:50.101
Jill Rappaport: Tell our audience the dates.
00:31:50.101 --> 00:31:53.181
Isaac Mizrahi: It's our February 4th through the 15th.
00:31:53.181 --> 00:32:00.401
Isaac Mizrahi: But then I start going out to Tampa and Palm Beach and a few places.
00:32:01.141 --> 00:32:08.481
Isaac Mizrahi: I'm doing a whole West Coast tour in Scottsdale and in LA and in a few places, so I'm really excited about this.
00:32:08.481 --> 00:32:13.681
Isaac Mizrahi: I did a tour which was like a miniature version of what's coming up about two years ago.
00:32:13.681 --> 00:32:18.241
Isaac Mizrahi: But this year, it's going to be this massive tour of about 40 or 50 stops.
00:32:18.241 --> 00:32:19.241
Isaac Mizrahi: I'm excited.
00:32:19.241 --> 00:32:20.301
Isaac Mizrahi: I know, darling.
00:32:20.301 --> 00:32:25.281
Jill Rappaport: So it's a combination of stories, singing, performing, just everything, Isaac.
00:32:25.281 --> 00:32:26.261
Isaac Mizrahi: That's right, darling.
00:32:26.261 --> 00:32:27.021
Isaac Mizrahi: That's right.
00:32:27.021 --> 00:32:28.061
Isaac Mizrahi: That's right.
00:32:28.061 --> 00:32:34.281
Isaac Mizrahi: The show I'm doing at the Carlyle and going forward into my tour is called I Know Everybody.
00:32:34.281 --> 00:32:36.541
Isaac Mizrahi: That's the name of the show.
00:32:36.561 --> 00:32:37.861
Isaac Mizrahi: I do.
00:32:37.861 --> 00:32:38.341
Isaac Mizrahi: I do.
00:32:38.341 --> 00:32:45.741
Isaac Mizrahi: Darling, I swear to you, you could say a word, you could say a name, and I would say, oh, yeah, God, I had that crazy thing happen with that person.
00:32:45.741 --> 00:32:47.481
Isaac Mizrahi: Or, oh, my God, I love that person.
00:32:47.481 --> 00:32:51.041
Isaac Mizrahi: Or, yeah, I fitted her to dress one day and I saw her naked.
00:32:51.341 --> 00:32:53.341
Isaac Mizrahi: Or, whatever it is.
00:32:53.341 --> 00:32:56.661
Isaac Mizrahi: I have stories about almost every single person you could mention.
00:32:56.801 --> 00:32:58.001
Jill Rappaport: What's the best story?
00:32:58.001 --> 00:32:59.901
Jill Rappaport: I don't want to go negative or catty.
00:32:59.901 --> 00:33:04.181
Jill Rappaport: What is the best story you have to tell us about someone really famous?
00:33:04.181 --> 00:33:07.521
Isaac Mizrahi: Well, I'm going to tell you this story about when I was a kid.
00:33:07.521 --> 00:33:10.621
Isaac Mizrahi: I mean, it started because I went to performing arts high school, I told you that.
00:33:11.241 --> 00:33:13.381
Isaac Mizrahi: This is not exactly a funny story.
00:33:13.381 --> 00:33:18.921
Isaac Mizrahi: It's not funny, but it's true, which is that when I was a kid, I was given the first thing in performing arts high school.
00:33:18.981 --> 00:33:26.421
Isaac Mizrahi: The first day, we were given this assignment to interview somebody in the theater, and it could be an usher.
00:33:26.421 --> 00:33:28.141
Isaac Mizrahi: It could be someone who sells popcorn.
00:33:28.141 --> 00:33:32.801
Isaac Mizrahi: It could be like a stage manager, anybody or an understudy or a star or whatever.
00:33:32.801 --> 00:33:37.141
Isaac Mizrahi: So I was obsessed with Chicago, the show, which had just come out.
00:33:37.141 --> 00:33:46.581
Isaac Mizrahi: This was 1974 or something, 1975, and I was obsessed and I waited outside from Chicago, and finally, Gwen Verdon came out.
00:33:47.101 --> 00:33:51.661
Isaac Mizrahi: And she not only gave me the interview, she took me to Joe Allen.
00:33:51.661 --> 00:33:54.361
Isaac Mizrahi: She do give you, I mean, like, what about that?
00:33:54.361 --> 00:33:55.301
Isaac Mizrahi: Okay.
00:33:55.301 --> 00:33:57.641
Isaac Mizrahi: I mean, that is elegant, right?
00:33:57.641 --> 00:34:02.221
Isaac Mizrahi: And she told me all this great stuff and we sat there and it was just something beyond.
00:34:02.221 --> 00:34:03.121
Isaac Mizrahi: I will never forget that.
00:34:03.121 --> 00:34:05.481
Isaac Mizrahi: And then of course, by the way, I handed in the paper.
00:34:05.481 --> 00:34:06.421
Isaac Mizrahi: Here's the thing.
00:34:06.421 --> 00:34:12.601
Isaac Mizrahi: I got a B, like I got like, you know, Gwen Verdon and I got a B, okay?
00:34:12.601 --> 00:34:14.001
Isaac Mizrahi: Like who got an A?
00:34:14.001 --> 00:34:15.141
Isaac Mizrahi: I just want to know who got an A.
00:34:15.441 --> 00:34:19.761
Jill Rappaport: And meanwhile, fast forward to your Broadway experience.
00:34:19.761 --> 00:34:20.721
Isaac Mizrahi: That's right.
00:34:20.721 --> 00:34:22.901
Jill Rappaport: And you actually ended up in the show.
00:34:22.901 --> 00:34:25.061
Isaac Mizrahi: That's true, which is thrilling.
00:34:25.061 --> 00:34:26.041
Isaac Mizrahi: Thrilling, thrilling, thrilling.
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Jill Rappaport: I mean, talk about full circle fame and fortune.
00:34:29.621 --> 00:34:31.021
Jill Rappaport: That's unbelievable.
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Isaac Mizrahi: I know.
00:34:31.441 --> 00:34:33.941
Isaac Mizrahi: And also, just talk about a life.
00:34:33.941 --> 00:34:35.921
Isaac Mizrahi: I was thinking about this the other day.
00:34:35.921 --> 00:34:39.521
Isaac Mizrahi: Like, I was watching, of course, on a loop, The Marvelous Mrs.
00:34:39.521 --> 00:34:40.981
Isaac Mizrahi: Maisel, because it's the best in the world.
00:34:40.981 --> 00:34:41.661
Jill Rappaport: Oh, love, love.
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Isaac Mizrahi: Love, love, love.
00:34:42.241 --> 00:34:48.701
Isaac Mizrahi: And I got to this, one of the final episodes where the couple, her husband's parents, right?
00:34:48.901 --> 00:34:51.941
Isaac Mizrahi: They decide to sell the house and move to Boca, right?
00:34:51.941 --> 00:34:54.641
Isaac Mizrahi: And I thought to myself, I am so never moving to Boca.
00:34:54.641 --> 00:34:55.721
Isaac Mizrahi: Here's why.
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Isaac Mizrahi: I can never be that far away from Broadway.
00:34:57.881 --> 00:35:01.401
Isaac Mizrahi: Broadway is like my obsession, you know?
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Isaac Mizrahi: I mean, and so like, you know, talk show, Broadway.
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Isaac Mizrahi: I don't know.
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Isaac Mizrahi: I have to tell you, Broadway is a huge commitment to viewing a show eight times a week.
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Isaac Mizrahi: That is-
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Jill Rappaport: So what about like what Billy Crystal did years ago, a one man show on Broadway?
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Isaac Mizrahi: Yes, darling.
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Isaac Mizrahi: That's coming.
00:35:15.981 --> 00:35:17.581
Isaac Mizrahi: That is coming.
00:35:17.581 --> 00:35:19.081
Jill Rappaport: This is a big scoop.
00:35:19.081 --> 00:35:20.181
Jill Rappaport: I see this.
00:35:20.181 --> 00:35:20.901
Isaac Mizrahi: Stick around.
00:35:20.901 --> 00:35:21.561
Isaac Mizrahi: Stick around.
00:35:21.561 --> 00:35:22.061
Isaac Mizrahi: I mean it.
00:35:22.061 --> 00:35:22.801
Isaac Mizrahi: Stick around.
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Jill Rappaport: What people also don't know, and maybe we want to end on this wonderful note, you're also a singer.
00:35:28.701 --> 00:35:30.581
Jill Rappaport: I don't think people realize.
00:35:30.581 --> 00:35:30.921
Isaac Mizrahi: No.
00:35:30.921 --> 00:35:35.321
Isaac Mizrahi: I mean, you know, listen, I'm not like Ariana Grande or something.
00:35:35.321 --> 00:35:41.901
Isaac Mizrahi: I mean, I'm not that, but I can carry a tune and I feel like, you know, I have a great bit of musicianship in me.
00:35:41.901 --> 00:35:45.481
Isaac Mizrahi: You know, I like arrange these songs with Ben and the band.
00:35:45.481 --> 00:35:48.901
Isaac Mizrahi: Ben Walzer, who's my incredible musical director and arranger.
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Isaac Mizrahi: But I work on these arrangements with him really, really painstakingly.
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Isaac Mizrahi: And it's this music that we make that I've been doing since, you know, I had a one man show off Broadway called Les Mizrahi in 2000, right, for a full year and a half.
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Isaac Mizrahi: Like that was on for like ever.
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Isaac Mizrahi: And he worked with me on that show.
00:36:06.881 --> 00:36:09.721
Isaac Mizrahi: He worked with me every night in that show.
00:36:09.721 --> 00:36:15.361
Isaac Mizrahi: And we've been working together since and it's really, I mean, I'm not going to say I'm a good singer or a bad singer.
00:36:15.361 --> 00:36:18.821
Isaac Mizrahi: I think I'm compelling to watch as a singer, you know?
00:36:18.821 --> 00:36:19.101
Isaac Mizrahi: Okay.
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Jill Rappaport: Not to put you on the spot, but to end and conclude this unbelievable interview, would you sing us out with something?
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Isaac Mizrahi: Oh, what should I sing?
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Isaac Mizrahi: Gosh.
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Jill Rappaport: Anything that moves you, Isaac.
00:36:29.721 --> 00:36:30.901
Jill Rappaport: Well, we're going to kick it off.
00:36:30.901 --> 00:36:31.741
Isaac Mizrahi: What am I going to say?
00:36:31.741 --> 00:36:32.521
Isaac Mizrahi: Okay, how about this?
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Isaac Mizrahi: Where has the time all gone to?
00:36:35.961 --> 00:36:39.781
Isaac Mizrahi: Haven't done half the things we want to.
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Isaac Mizrahi: Oh, well, we'll catch up some other time.
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Isaac Mizrahi: How about that?
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Jill Rappaport: Oh, that was beautiful.
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Isaac Mizrahi: I love that song.
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Isaac Mizrahi: It's Leonard Bernstein and Comden and Green.
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Jill Rappaport: Oh, what a fabulous way to conclude the best interview, as always.
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Jill Rappaport: We are going to do something together, Isaac, and I want you to be a regular on this podcast.
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Jill Rappaport: Please.
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Isaac Mizrahi: I do.
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Isaac Mizrahi: I really love it so much.
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Isaac Mizrahi: You're just asking, I shall appear.
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Jill Rappaport: Oh, Isaac, you made my day, and I promise my audience just the most exhilarating, entertaining interview, and we delivered thanks to you.
00:37:19.161 --> 00:37:20.061
Isaac Mizrahi: You're the best.
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Jill Rappaport: Thank you so much, Isaac, and continued love and support for Our Animals in Need.
00:37:24.641 --> 00:37:26.301
Jill Rappaport: You're an angel on earth.
00:37:26.301 --> 00:37:32.281
Isaac Mizrahi: Okay, listen, and we know three dogs that could use to make up your six-pack, darling.
00:37:32.681 --> 00:37:35.581
Isaac Mizrahi: We know there will be dogs out there that could use a home.
00:37:36.161 --> 00:37:37.121
Jill Rappaport: Okay.
00:37:37.121 --> 00:37:37.741
Jill Rappaport: We'll talk.
00:37:37.741 --> 00:37:38.921
Jill Rappaport: We'll talk, right?
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Jill Rappaport: Isaac, thank you so much.
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Jill Rappaport: My love to Arnold and your fur angels, and just continue with your dreams and passions.
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Jill Rappaport: We just want more of you.
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Isaac Mizrahi: Okay.
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Isaac Mizrahi: Thank you.
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Jill Rappaport: Thank you so much for joining us today on this incredible Rappaport to the Rescue podcast.
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