Rappaport To The Rescue

Emmy-nominated comedian, actress, writer, producer and all-around powerhouse Michelle Buteau joins Jill Rappaport for a hilarious, heartfelt and refreshingly candid conversation about her soaring career, fabulous family—and the rescue dogs who have changed her life. Michelle opens up about starring in Spa Weekend, saying goodbye to her beloved Netflix series Survival of the Thickest, making her directorial debut, raising seven-year-old twins and why finding happiness and using her voice matter more than simply chasing the next big career milestone. Then the conversation turns to the passion that instantly bonded Michelle and Jill: animal rescue.

Michelle reveals why she made the conscious decision to adopt big black dogs that are so often overlooked in shelters and shares the touching story of Lola Falana, the 110-pound “lap mastiff” who helped heal her after a miscarriage and later became an extraordinary companion to her children. She also introduces the family’s lovable mastiff-pit mix Whitney Houston and reflects on the devastating loss of her first fur baby, Roxy. Funny, inspiring and filled with heart, it’s Michelle Buteau as you may never have heard her before—and a beautiful reminder that sometimes the animal you rescue ends up rescuing you right back..

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BIO:

Michelle Buteau is an actress, comedian, host, producer, and writer. Michelle stars in the Netflix comedy series “Survival Of The Thickest”, which she created and executive produced. Inspired by her autobiographical book of essays of the same name, the series was released in July 2023 and its second season is slated to premiere in March 2025. Buteau received the 55th NAACP Image Award for “Outstanding Breakthrough Creative (Television)” for the series.

Buteau also stars in the hit comedy BABES, alongside Ilana Glazer and directed by Pamela Adlon. The film premiered to rave reviews at SXSW and released in theaters on May 17, 2024, with Variety praising the “unapologetically raw take on pregnancy and female friendship” and Rolling Stone lauding it the “'Bridesmaids' of babymaking.” Next, she will soon begin production on the comedy SPA WEEKEND, opposite Leslie Mann, Isla Fisher, and Anna Faris.

Buteau is known as the host of the hit Netflix reality competition show, “The Circle”, which released its seventh season in September 2024, as well as Netflix’s “Barbecue Showdown”. On June 6, 2024, Buteau taped her most recent Netflix comedy special, A BUTEAU-FUL MIND at Radio City Music Hall, becoming the first woman to tape a special at the iconic venue. Her first Netflix special, WELCOME TO BUTEAUPIA won the Critics Choice Television Award for Best Comedy Special.

Transcript:

Welcome to Rappaport to the Rescue. I'm Jill Rappaport. The second I met my guest today, I immediately adored her.

And that seems to be the consensus about Michelle Buteau. Michelle is not only hilarious and super talented, but this comedian is also an actor, writer, producer, and TV host. She recently took center stage at the box office, starring in Spa Weekend with an A-list cast.

And she is also a beloved personality on Netflix, where she co-created, executive produced, and starred as Mavis Beaumont in Survival of the Thickest, based on her book of essays. She also made her directorial debut during the final season. And if that's not enough to fill her dance card, she's still very active in stand-up comedy.

Her Netflix special, Michelle Buteau, A Buteau-ful Mind at Radio City Music Hall, still remains available on Netflix. Now, of course, another reason to really love this gal is that she's a huge animal advocate, and she's going to talk all about her beloved rescues today, along with her soaring career and fabulous family. So when we come back, Michelle Buteau on Rappaport to the Rescue, you do not want to miss this interview.

Welcome back to Rappaport to the Rescue. I'm Jill Rappaport. Now, you heard in my intro, as I just absolutely gushed over my guest, because she is the best.

Michelle Buteau, I love you so. Oh my God, I love you too. I mean, WNBC royalty.

It's so funny because I finally got to meet you after being a fan for so many years and watching your meteoric rise. We meet at Spa Weekend, your big film debut and the film premiere in the Hamptons. And you tell me that you knew me at WNBC and you were watching what I was doing on The Today Show.

Unbelievable that someone like you was watching what I was doing. Oh, my goodness. You know, it's so great to about like, well, shout out to all the editors, because I would always make jokes like I'm too cute for a dark room.

I need a window. But it was such a breath of fresh air to see someone like you on live television, living your truth, having fun, being knowledgeable, being, you know, sexy, fashionable, like fun hair. Like, you know, it just it's really fun because a lot of people like, you know, go to school for journalism and it's like, sometimes it gets very cookie cutter.

And yeah, you popped right away in my dark, dark edit base, which sounds creepy, but just know that it's not. And right during that time, and it was before COVID, that's when you made the major switch. And that light bulb moment went off in your head.

And it all changed for you. Yeah, it was actually 9-11. I started stand up September 14, 2001 was the first time I did stand up.

So, you know, I just had an anniversary. And it really is like one of those moments where so many people are dying. So you have to choose to start living.

And having just experienced the anniversary, the 25th anniversary, that must really still hold such a poignant and intense feeling for you because your life took a very important change. Yeah, it's so weird. And I guess interesting how it plays out because I realized I just am a different person now.

Like I will never go to the top of a building. I will. I remember when airports didn't have security and you can like smoke in airports.

I remember I look at people in a different way now. I'm like suspicious, you know, sometimes when I'm like, why are you leaving your bag there? I'm like, I wouldn't live past the fifth floor. And but I'm also like, I'm equal parts cautious, more cautious, but also more adventurous.

You know, like I said, like, just because we're alive doesn't mean we're living. And so I'm like, I'm going to stop phoning it in. You know, didn't even realize I was kind of phoning it in.

Just because you have a paycheck that appears in your bank account every week doesn't mean that you are fully living your truth. And you are truly living your truth and making us all love the ride along the way. I want to talk about Spa Weekend because you were with an all-star cast and you really took center stage in that film, you stole that role.

And it was amazing. What was that experience like? You were with Leslie Mann and, you know, great actors and your role was just so memorable. It's so why it's so it was wild.

It was really like an out of body experience because I just remember watching all of their movies thinking, not thinking, oh, I could do that. And I can't wait to do that. I kept thinking like when I saw you, like, look at these wild bitches living their truth, like at the top of their game, having fun and doing their job well, you know, and I just really enjoy watching people live their truth and be in their pocket.

And so, you know, it was really cool to have the type of experience that I've had for the last 25 years, boots on the ground, performed in 49 states and some stuff in Europe, you know, just like a like a very heavy stand up live host experience, bringing that to the set, which I think made for like a really good balance of comedy and chemistry. And it actually made me like at one point a little sad for the people I started with that quit. Interesting.

You know, and so I always invite them to the premiere or something, because it's also like my win is their win. You know, that is interesting that you feel that they should really grab that brass ring, too. But I have to tell you, in that role, you were incredible.

You're really a good actor. And would you ever think when you were a little girl, you know, growing up that Michelle, the movie star? No, I mean, maybe when I'm playing Barbies, but not realistically at all, because, you know, when you're young, everyone wants to know what you're going to study in college. And you have to be very realistic and pragmatic.

And what are you going to do? And even when you're picking these jobs before you graduate high school, you already know what your yearly salary is. And so it's sort of like everything is set up for you, sure, in the best way possible. But I feel like we've over planned everybody's future that we have no room to just breathe and dream.

That is so true. And that's what we need to do now more than ever. And I know this summer was bittersweet for you because your beloved series on Netflix came to an end.

Can we just talk about your role and what you created with this show? Yeah, I would love to. I mean, it really is bittersweet. That's the perfect way of putting it.

So I wrote a book that was released in 2020 called Survival of the Thickest. And a really amazing executive at Netflix, no longer there, but shout out to Kristin Zollner. She read my book, like one of the first copies, like a galley, like, you know, one of the first copies not even like fully released yet.

And she said, this has to be a show. And so even though she was getting ready to leave Netflix, she made sure that my show was greenlit and passed through. And so I'm so thankful to her and to other amazing female executives who fostered my show and my relationship and talent at Netflix.

And so we were able to build three beautiful seasons of just like a dream, you know, like for me to say, I want to represent underrepresented voices in front and behind the camera that is black, brown, mixed, fat, queer, female, gays, theys, all of the above. Like, we're not going to be a resume snob. Like, if we have the years of experience, and we don't have the title, let's make sure we leave the world better than we found it and give people the title.

And so I'm really proud of what we've done. And I wish more people would like take initiative to just do a better job to be more thoughtful. But yeah, I like I can't say enough about the people that I got to meet and work with.

And then even the messages coming in because a platform like Netflix is like, not nothing, you know, it's 191 countries. And even if like 300 million people, right? Yes, over 300 million people. And so like, even if like, five people in Kenya, watch the show to entertain and affect five people in Kenya is like, it's amazing.

It was amazing. I want to do it again. Netflix.

Well, I can't even believe it came to an end. And I know the final season you got to direct as well. That's amazing.

To add that to your resume. It really was. Yeah, I directed episode five is called good grief comma bitch.

And it is about my character experiencing a miscarriage. But it is hilarious. Just kidding.

But it is, you know, thoughtful and raw and real. And what I can do is be funny as the day is long. But at a certain point with three seasons, I'm like, what are we saying? What stories do I want to tell? Who do I want to affect? And my husband and I really struggled with having a family.

And I have such an amazing, like just a group of friends and family. And then even like a peripheral circle of people I could talk to. And yet I still felt very alone.

And I'm like, damn, if I feel alone, like I can't talk to somebody and I can afford a therapist. I can only imagine somebody in Iowa, who is working at Macy's and is not and then like fertility treatments aren't covered. And how does it like all the things I've just like thinking about, like all these everyday people who, you know, even gay couples is just like, who never even thought they could be married, let alone have a family.

It's just like, how do we even start the conversation? And for me, it's always been about putting it in art. And you did that with this series, you address all these issues, all your concerns that you had that involved everyone involved the planet. And you put it out there so people could feel comfortable and happy to see it addressed.

Yeah, it was such a, it was such a beautiful responsibility. It really was such a beautiful, it was like, I felt like that quartet, like at the end of the Titanic sinking bad example, but follow me here. You know, they're like playing as they're playing all together as the boat sinking.

They're like, it was an honor and a privilege. You know what I mean? Like, even though they're all gonna die, but that's okay. Bad example, but good example.

You know, it was like an honor and a privilege. I was happy to do it. Well, you definitely did.

I don't think this is the end. I think somebody else, if not Netflix, and I think it should be Netflix, but I think someone else will pick this up because it's just so needed now, you know, to give out these important messages to help people, but with humor, you know, it's all about live, love, laugh. It really is.

And, and there's so many, like the character Marley actually was written after one of my best friends, Terry, who was my line producer at WNBC forever and all of time. And when I met her, she was straight and she was just like really telling people where to go and how to get there. And then 10 years in, she started working out, sort of became like a body builder and realized that she loved women, but didn't understand, like, we all have like conversations around sexuality under a male gaze.

And so it was just fascinating to meet someone as, as deeply as they met themselves. Right. Which is like a really good conversation and friendship or relationship.

And so it was so fun to put that storyline in of a woman of a particular age who has like seemingly everything she could ever want, but a partner and does she want a partner and with who, and how does that make her look? But why does she care? And so there were so many women in their fifties and sixties who were just like, I really appreciate that storyline, whether they were going through something themselves about questioning their sexuality or they knew someone I'm like, this is more common than not. So why don't we see more of it is what I say. Oh yeah.

And just the title, which I thought was so brilliant survival of the thickest in the era where that we're living in now, the world of GLPs, the whole world as Sarah, Jessica Parker referred to it using the juice. What is it? Right. Yeah.

You know, it's, you know, how trends come back, like, let's say bell bottoms or crinoline. Unfortunately, it feels like a skinny trend is coming back and like, look, I am all pro health. You know, like I made a joke in season one, episode seven, like, do I have diabetes? Am I going to die or beat it? Which is like one of the best improv lines I've ever, but you know, to me, it's just really, really sad that people think that they have to attain this unattainable image for essentially the patriarchy, because who's telling you, you have to be skinny.

Who said that? You could also just be you. I think, you know, if it makes you happy, okay. But like, are you doing it for you or for someone else is their bigger picture.

And for me, it's like, I'm not going to judge you if you do that. So don't judge me. If you know, I have my biscuits and my bucket of chicken on your TV, because I know you paid a lot for that membership.

So here we go. Happy Thanksgiving. There's another biscuit for you.

I love it. Yeah, they may take one bite of the biscuit, but then they're too full to continue, which I think it would be depressing taking the joy out of eating. You know, that's really what it is.

You just don't enjoy eating anymore. I know. That's really sad.

So I just love food too much. And I also love working out. I love working out with friends.

You want to be healthy. Let's get that message out. Yes, I want to be healthy.

But I also love what my body does. From the neck down. I look like my grandma Mavis, who I knew my character after.

And she loved her body. And I love mine. And I feel like the best way is to show through example, like what soft plus size sex looks like.

And that's why, you know, it is survival of the fittest is also a very sex positive show, because sex also is mental health. I think we put a lot of focus on physical health and like what we look like. But how do we feel? That's so true, Michelle.

And you know, looking at you, you've had this incredible career. You've done so many amazing things, movies and stand up and specials. And what is your dream? It sounds like this series really was your dream.

And you would be content doing that forever. But is there something else on your very young bucket list because you're very young that you still think Damn, I gotta do that. Oh my god, 49 from the waist up 33 from the waist down.

Oh, I still definitely like have see sparkles when I tie my shoelace though. So that's, you know, a thing. But I'm gonna be honest.

And that sounds corny. But my dream was the first time I got on stage September 14 2001, and fell in love with a thing that I never knew I could fall in love with. And so that really planted the seed of this like beautiful tree that has bloomed in my life.

And so, you know, whether it is creating, producing, hosting, acting, doing stand up, whatever it is, I'm still creating art. I'm still using my voice. I'm still advocating for all different types of communities.

But with humor and paying my taxes on time, let's not get it twisted. Okay, you're not gonna catch me and target using a credit card that doesn't work. I'm paying my taxes, honey.

But yeah, I mean, that is the ultimate goal. I mean, and also the ultimate goal is being happy, finding peace, like actually liking my husband, and wanting to take care of my kids. You know, like, that's amazing.

Like, I couldn't ask for anything more. Well, maybe a clean countertop. Well, you know, you really do have quite a wonderful life from us looking in.

You've got this amazing husband that you obviously adore. And these two beautiful kids, twins, right? Twins, seven year old twins. I saw them.

And by the way, I'm going to suggest another career move for you. Because I saw your twins on the Today Show when you were one of the guests and you're on regularly. And I feel, Michelle, that that could be the next thing for you as a talk show host, because you are just so exciting to watch.

You're hilarious. You're so entertaining. And I really do see that as your next step.

Like, you know, filling in on the Today Show and then getting your own gig. The way Kelly Clarkson, it happened for her that way. Yeah.

I mean, that's always been a dream of mine. I mean, that's why I wanted to get into entertainment reporting when I was in college. But, you know, I sort of I didn't give up on it.

Like, I love to show up and do it when I can. But it does feel like it's such a male dominated industry that I'm like, well, there's other things I could do. We need you.

That's why we need you. But I really do think that that window is going to open for you. Because every time I see you, especially, you know, on the Today Show with Jenna and Chanel, you're just fabulous.

And you really just take over the segment with your amazing personality. And I really thought, wow, that's the next role I see for Michelle Buteau. I would love it.

But getting back to your family, because those kids were just beyond adorable. What do they think about what's going on with mom? Are they aware that you're a movie star, a stage star? Do they get it? I don't know. I don't think so.

Because anytime I put makeup on, they're like, don't put makeup on. People are going to know you're famous and talk to you and then we can't get the thing. And I'm like, what? And so they know the word famous and they know that people talk to me.

And I and I have such a great relationship with my fans and audience because half the time my husband's like, did you know them? I'm like, no, but we're all family. So at first, I thought your husband think you're funny, Michelle. He does.

He must crack up for me. He does. He cracks me up, too.

But yes, he thinks I'm hilarious. But it's very interesting because Dutch people really don't laugh that much. And so the fact that I could tickle him, I'm like, I did it.

I did it. So basically, to them, you're his wife, and they're like, it's mom. But they must be aware to some extent when you have these movie premieres or these openings, and everybody's making up a real big deal over you.

Yeah, I think they think I work a lot. And then I love my job. And then I leave and I come back and I'm tired.

I think that's what they I don't know what they think fully. I think they think I can get a good seat at Radio City Music Hall for the Christmas show. Like I don't know what they think.

And and that's cool, too, you know, because the focus really is them. Do you see that that is budding in them that either one of them may go in your direction? Fully. Really? Yes, fully.

They are. They have it. And if they didn't have it, I'd let them know.

But they have it. And it's really up to them what they want to do with it. I'm not going to push anyone.

And I take them to set because I think it's really important for them to see that mama runs this set, you know, and this is what I do. And here are the people I work with and that I am the company that I keep and, you know, woman is in charge. You know, I try to get my cast and crew together.

Yeah, mama's in charge. People listen to mama too. That is very important for them to see.

And what a great example that you are setting. For them. Thank you.

I'm trying. Everyone's just like asking me advice about motherhood. I'm like, don't ask.

Don't ask me. I don't know what to ask for. It was something I'd never done before.

So I'm like, I don't know. I hope this is OK. Well, you know what's so amazing? And I'll share this with our audience here is that you actually had to move the time for this interview up because you were picking your kids up and you couldn't be late.

You're really a hands on mom. You have not gone to the only red M&M's world. Well, no, I couldn't if I tried.

I couldn't keep up, but I grew up in Central Jersey. One parent worked in New York. The other one worked in Philly.

And I'm the only child. So I learned how to, like, clean a kitchen, cook chicken and make rice by the time I was like 10 or 11. And so, you know, no, just to my parents, shout out to them.

You know, my mom's from Jamaica, dad's from Haiti. They did what they had to do. And so here I am living all of our dreams.

But I love being in my kids life, you know, and if I'm in town, I'm picking them up and I'm taking them to their soccer and gymnastics. And that's really cool. I want to know what their day is.

You know, it's so fun to annoy them. Oh, absolutely. And the other reason I immediately knew that we were going to be bonded forever was your passion, your commitment and your love for your rescue pets.

Can we just talk about how this started and tell us about them? Yeah. So, you know, when I was in L.A., I couldn't afford to have a pet, but I would just like walk dogs. And my dad was like really allergic to dogs growing up, so I never had a dog, but I always loved them.

And then as I started walking dogs in New York, I noticed that everybody had like a very small dog. And if it was a big dog, it was like a beige or white dog. And then finally, when, you know, the time came where I told my husband, I really want to have a fur baby.

We did the research and it turns out the reason why I was seeing a lot of white and beige dogs is because big black dogs don't get adopted. And if they do get adopted, they don't get adopted first. And it is a whole movement called Black Dogs Matter because they do.

People are scared of them. They want a lap dog. They are not.

And like, obviously, like you choose your soulmate and whoever's going to make you happy. But I'm like, it does feel like the way you do one thing is the way you do everything. And I'm just like, we have to give everyone a chance.

Like, just because there's some sort of like narrative that they're scary doesn't mean that they aren't. So I've only adopted big black dogs. And I have Lola Falana.

It's amazing, Michelle. I am so blown away that you just said that because I did that story over 14 years ago on the Today Show called Black Dog Syndrome because Emmylou Harris, shake it, baby. Emmylou Harris told me about it.

And she brought me to her shelter in Nashville and said to me, Jill, look at what's sitting in the shelter. They're either a bully breed or a black dog. And I said, even Black Labs, purebreds are sitting there.

I said, why is this? And she said, because they don't photograph well. So people perceive them as looking mean or you can't see the features. And it's a real thing.

And do you know, when I did it on the Today Show, I had two Black Lab puppies. I was sitting with Lester Holt. He couldn't believe that these dogs were sitting languishing in the shelter.

So bless you for recognizing this plight and doing something about it. Oh, my God. Yes.

Oh, my God. Yes. And tell me about your two dogs now.

I love the names. So Lola Falana, we actually adopted Lola, I think, after my second miscarriage because I was like, this is my time. This is my time.

And I was loving other people's kids and I was loving other people's dogs. And I'm like, this is my time. And she saved me.

The walks, the hugs, the pouring into her, her pouring into me. She's a lap mastiff and she's a dog food commercial. The way she takes care of those babies when I brought them home was like something out of a Disney movie.

Oh, my goodness. Yeah, she's just a gift. And I love making jokes about her because I did write a joke about her that I put in Welcome to Butopia where I need a shovel for her poop and I live on a farm.

It's giving black reed wood of little house on a prairie. So there's a lot of poop I see every day that's not mine. And that makes me a good person.

And I love the name because if people would remember the gorgeous performer Lola Falana, I mean, just magnificent. And she, I'm sure, does that legacy well. And she sounds like she's the ultimate mom to you and your children.

She is. Yes, she's such a big, huge, lovely presence. She's a walking Christmas movie.

I don't know how to describe her any other way. And I love that she's over 110 pounds, but thinks that she's 10, just like me. We don't know how big our hips are.

And we're gonna you know, and she is big spoon and I'm little spoon. And I love her down. So survival of the thickest.

And then we have Whitney Houston, who is a massive pit. And she is just like the perfect, the perfect cherry on top of our Sunday of a family. She's lovely.

And she's like a bone of China shop trying to get hugs with from everybody. And she's like, as soon as people come in the house, she shows them her tummy. She's on her back.

She's like, let's get down. And she's, she's just awesome. A lot of my family members were scared of my dogs.

And now they've all completely changed their mind. And they actually FaceTime me to see the dogs, not even me. And, and it's awesome.

And you know, the kids, the way that they've grown up with these dogs, like they just, I can see it, they enter rooms differently. They're confident, they're loving, they love the responsibility of feeding them and walking them and picking up their poop and making sure their tail is up at the dog park and reading signs. And it's just been such a gift, you know, it's been such a gift.

And I love them down. And we had a dog named Roxy, who was a pug chihuahua, also black. And she was like, she was amazing.

And I used to walk her and then her owner ended up giving her to me because she's like, you guys need each other more. Roxy was like, really my first fur baby. And she changed my life.

And no one ever talks about how devastating it is when you lose your fur friend. The worst. Like it's, yeah, it's, it's a loss, like.

A family member. Like you can't describe. Yeah, like beyond because it's, and then the phantom, like, pitter patter of her paws.

Absolutely. And running into a dog either that looks like her or with the same name, it's just wild. And I remember my friend who was her godmother gave me a book for the kids to read.

I forget the name of the book, but it was like, all dogs go to heaven. And this is why it explains why dogs are amazing and why they go to heaven. And at the end, it says, dogs go to heaven because they play with the kids that have gone to heaven.

And I'm like. Oh, that is so beautifully put. And when you think about Michelle, not only did you rescue and adopt these animals, which is first and foremost, the most important thing, you took ones that would be left languishing in the shelters.

Those are the ones that people walk by. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, they all matter, you know, I mean, I can't imagine the person who leaves a litter of dogs in a box in a parking lot in Atlanta. But I'm also thankful they did that because then I got to see Lola. Exactly.

You know, like one of like the most important family members in this household. So I would want people if they are thinking about getting a dog to just be open to adopting a dog and someone that's outside of their wheelhouse, because they will teach you something, a lesson that you don't even know that you need. And that's like the most important thing of all.

And that's what life is about. Oh, Michelle, that is such a beautiful way to almost end this podcast, because I have on Rappaport to the Rescue, three little questions that I'm going to ask you. We'll end on.

Starting with, if your dogs could talk, what secret do they know about you that you wouldn't want anyone else to know? But feel free to share here with us. No, they know too much. One thing that they would be like, get it together is sometimes I don't fold the laundry.

I just leave it in a pile. And I'm like, it's clean. Go get it.

Sometimes they like want to lay down on it. And I'm like, go ahead. That's not too bad.

That one, we can let everybody know about that. Okay. Next question.

What trait of your pets do you wish that your husband possessed? Or maybe he does. Oh my God. Not talking back.

Shut up. Shut up. Just look at me.

Just sit down and look at me lovingly. Unconditional love, right? How about for your kids? Oh my goodness. I don't.

Oh my God. They're pretty perfect, right? Because the kids can like pick up their poop now. So no.

Oh, finish your food. Finish your food. And the dogs always do.

That's so true, right? Yes.

Okay, and finally, people say they look like their pets. I consider it a real compliment. What feature of theirs do you possess or vice versa? Oh my goodness, a bright spirit and a thick body.

Miss ma'am, Miss ma'am pajama, you already know, it's massive. Got to end it there because that is the best. Michelle, I cannot thank you enough for taking the time out of your incredibly busy schedule to sit down with us on Rappaport to the Rescue.

I adore you. I knew that the second I met you that I would, and thank you for opening up your heart and home to these animals in need and being such an amazing wife and mother and an incredible talent. Oh my God, thank you so much.

That was like wedding speech nice. Well, you deserve all the accolades. You really do.

And I want to thank all of you for joining us on this wonderful edition of Rappaport to the Rescue.

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