What Does Your Pet Want for Christmas?
Join us for a festive episode as we chat with Shay Sora Kim, a certified Soul Level Animal Communicator and somatic mentor. Shay blends science and spirituality to help anxious pet parents confidently navigate tricky behavioral moments, create calming routines, and deepen their bond with their soul pets.
In this holiday special, we talk about how to prepare your pet for the season’s chaos and Shay shares tips on what your pet truly wants for Christmas because they deserve to feel the holiday magic too!
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BIO:
I’m an Animal Intuitive with a background in Naturopathic Animal Science + Somatic Integration.
After working for years as a Cat Nanny, I was guided to nurture a calling as an ally and guide. Today, I help pet parents beyond pet sitting.
My respect for animals grew into deep admiration once I adopted my first cat, Cloud. Motivated by his health battles and my personal relationship with anxiety, I began to learn multiple modalities. His teachings also inspired me to develop my intuitive gifts, which initially helped me stand out as a cat sitter. Timid cats would greet me at the door, much to their human’s surprise.
Soon enough, I accepted the call to be a spiritual bridge for animals and their humans. During my studies, I discovered that our pets are deeply connected to us—physically, emotionally, and spiritually. These areas are all interconnected.
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Announcer: This is Pet Life Radio.
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Announcer: Let's talk pets.
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Mary Tan: And welcome to the Whisker Report, where a new podcast dedicated to helping anyone in the pet industry, whether you're an animal welfare or a for-profit pet company, get some PR and buzz for your nonprofit or business.
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Mary Tan: Hello, everyone, I'm Mary Tan, one of the hosts of the show, along with Alexandre Card, a French gal who hails from Vancouver and travels the world in hopes of spaying and neutering stray cats.
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Mary Tan: Bonjour, Alex.
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Alexane Ricard: Ho, ho, ho.
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Alexane Ricard: Did I do that right?
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Mary Tan: Yes, you did.
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Mary Tan: Welcome to our Christmas episode, guys.
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Alexane Ricard: I'm so excited.
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Alexane Ricard: I love, love, love Christmas.
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Alexane Ricard: That's my favorite season of all time.
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Alexane Ricard: So I hope you're as excited as I am.
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Alexane Ricard: And I want to introduce you to our producer, Mark Winter of Pet Life Radio.
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Alexane Ricard: Mark, do you love Christmas as much as I do?
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Mark Winter: I love the holiday season, yes.
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Mark Winter: And it goes to say, Joyeux Noël, isn't that right?
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Alexane Ricard: Yeah, Joyeux Noël.
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Alexane Ricard: Yeah, exactly.
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Alexane Ricard: Mark, what is your favorite Christmas movie?
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Mark Winter: Well, there are so many fun ones, like Gremlins and Home Alone.
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Mark Winter: But I think my favorite one is A Christmas Carol from 1951 with Alastair Sim.
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Mark Winter: That's my favorite.
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Alexane Ricard: Okay.
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Alexane Ricard: Mary, what's yours?
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Mary Tan: I think it's the one with Chevy Chase.
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Mary Tan: What's the one?
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Mary Tan: Oh, they're so funny.
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Mark Winter: Christmas Vacation?
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Mary Tan: Yes, I love Christmas Vacation.
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Mary Tan: I can watch that over and over again.
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Mary Tan: Well, we're really honored to be part of Mark's PetLife Radio Network.
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Mary Tan: He's got tons of content out there, right, Mark?
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Mary Tan: What do you got going for the holidays with your other podcasts?
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Mark Winter: Everybody's got like a holiday show.
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Mark Winter: Everybody's talking about what to do and what not to do for the holidays and safety tips for your pets so they don't get into trouble and eat the wrong things and end up at the bed for the holidays.
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Mark Winter: And some of our shows have great gift ideas, which I'm hoping this one will tell me.
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Mary Tan: Yes, absolutely.
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Mary Tan: Well, we're honored to be part of your network, and we just want to stress that you can do PR for yourself.
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Mary Tan: And Alex, Mark and I are going to help you each and every week on the Whisker Report.
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Alexane Ricard: So, just to let you know, guys, we're going to have a big social media advent calendar on Whisker Media.
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Alexane Ricard: So stay tuned.
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Alexane Ricard: We're going to have 24 days of giveaways from wonderful pet brands, pet businesses, lots of good surprises.
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Alexane Ricard: So if you want to participate, just tune in on Instagram or Facebook on Whisker Media.
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Alexane Ricard: And yeah, you can win some fantastic stuff.
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Alexane Ricard: But today, to make this episode a bit special, we have a very special guest.
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Alexane Ricard: And no, it's not Santa, but it's close enough.
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Alexane Ricard: We can call her Mrs.
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Alexane Ricard: Claus for pets.
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Alexane Ricard: She's the one who will know what your pet wants for Christmas this year.
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Alexane Ricard: Shay is an animal communicator.
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Alexane Ricard: I actually met her at CatCon thanks to Grace.
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Alexane Ricard: Grace is the one and only behind the Instagram account called Kittyboy in France.
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Alexane Ricard: She also has a small rescue in California.
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Alexane Ricard: And I remember telling Shay how anxious I was about Tzatziki, my cat.
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Alexane Ricard: We were going to travel all the way from Paris to Vancouver, and we're going to have a big flight.
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Alexane Ricard: And I was so stressed out.
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Alexane Ricard: And that's when she told me she could help.
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Alexane Ricard: And I was very, very skeptical at first.
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Alexane Ricard: But after having a couple of sessions with Shay and flying with the calmest cat ever for 11 hours, I do not have any doubts about Shay's abilities.
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Alexane Ricard: So I'm really excited to have her on the show today.
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Alexane Ricard: Shay, can you tell us a bit about yourself and how you started talking with animals?
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Shay Sora Kim: Yeah, thank you for having me here, first off.
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Shay Sora Kim: Yeah, I'm Shay.
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Shay Sora Kim: I'm located in Los Angeles, California, but I do this work remotely so that shouldn't deter anyone from reaching out because this still works via Zoom as well.
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Shay Sora Kim: And my story really starts around, I guess I could start it at the pandemic.
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Shay Sora Kim: So like for many of us, that was a time that was like a real shift and had scratching our heads about our lives.
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Shay Sora Kim: And for me, I had this poll, like many of us cat owners have had to get a cat.
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Shay Sora Kim: And it was my very first cat and I just didn't question it.
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Shay Sora Kim: And I just went to get a cat.
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Shay Sora Kim: I probably thinking it would help with my loneliness and being indoors all the time, living the apartment lifestyle.
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Shay Sora Kim: And quickly was dealing with a bunch of health issues for him and being met with a wall about what to do.
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Shay Sora Kim: I always did believe in this work and I've used animal communicators for my family pets in the past.
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Shay Sora Kim: And so I just sought one and I sought a bunch of holistic ways to help heal him.
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Shay Sora Kim: And I met my current mentor, Ms.
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Shay Sora Kim: Karen Denny-Smith, who really urged me to do this work myself to learn it.
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Shay Sora Kim: And I'm like, I like how, how is that for?
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Shay Sora Kim: And she encouraged me to start reading books and she even told me that there are schools for this work.
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Shay Sora Kim: And so I just felt called to do that and pursue a certification, mostly to start helping my own cat, but then it quickly took a life of its own and now I'm fully launched.
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Shay Sora Kim: I actually launched my business in the spring of this year and it's led me here with you.
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Alexane Ricard: Can you just let us know, and I know it might be difficult to say in a few words, but how does it actually work?
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Alexane Ricard: How do you speak to animals?
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Shay Sora Kim: Yeah, so it's intuition.
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Shay Sora Kim: And I will stress that this is something that we all have the opportunity to learn.
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Shay Sora Kim: We can all do this if we so choose.
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Shay Sora Kim: It's just that not everyone chooses to, you know, cultivate intuition and work on trusting themselves to do this work, right?
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Shay Sora Kim: But it's really that, you know, we're developing trust in our own intuitive abilities, and then strengthening it over time.
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Shay Sora Kim: And like anything, like practice makes perfect.
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Shay Sora Kim: So the more you do this, you know, the more it helps you continue on.
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Shay Sora Kim: You know, we're getting a little technical, it's energetic.
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Shay Sora Kim: So, you know, our animals, our energy, the way that we are energy.
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Shay Sora Kim: And so I'm essentially tapping in to an energetic field to get information download from our parents.
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Shay Sora Kim: Does that make sense?
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Mary Tan: Yeah, absolutely.
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Mary Tan: You know, in the field that we're in, we often use animals to promote products and different things.
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Mary Tan: This might be an off the wall question, but how can we tell if the animal likes it or not?
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Mary Tan: If they have all the behavior, like they're okay doing it, but sometimes I feel like my cat's rolling his eyes at me.
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Mary Tan: Yeah.
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Shay Sora Kim: Well, I would encourage you to trust that feeling and explore it.
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Shay Sora Kim: Why is the cat rolling its eyes?
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Shay Sora Kim: Maybe he or she is mirroring something back to you that you need to look at, whether it's maybe you recently got a product yourself or yourself that has you rolling your own eyes.
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Shay Sora Kim: And so he's showing you, hey, you know, trial and error is also something that they encourage and also maybe we can look at that within ourselves.
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Shay Sora Kim: But for the most part, when their behavior is clear and tolerant and it, because you know, cats will show us if they don't like something for the most part.
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Shay Sora Kim: And so if they're accepting of it, I would trust that they're willing to give it a shot or at least enjoy the process of like, oh, she's giving me something new.
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Shay Sora Kim: Let's like figure it out together.
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Alexane Ricard: Okay.
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Alexane Ricard: >Wow.
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Alexane Ricard: Well, we have to take a little break to pay for this episode, but then we'll be right back with Shay to talk more about Christmas and pets.
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Alexane Ricard: And we're back with Shay, the one and only who managed to help me fly with my cats from Paris to Vancouver.
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Alexane Ricard: Shay, I remember during one of our sessions, you said Tsutsuki was showing you Christmas, and that she was kind of excited about it.
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Alexane Ricard: Can you tell me why pets could get excited about a human holiday?
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Shay Sora Kim: Oh, I love that question, yes.
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Shay Sora Kim: As early as like maybe September, pets were starting to bring up Christmas.
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Shay Sora Kim: Yeah.
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Shay Sora Kim: Year in there.
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Shay Sora Kim: And it's typically for a couple of reasons.
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Shay Sora Kim: One is that they love the spirit of Christmas, especially if they're humans, are really into it, just because there is that obvious energetic shift, and like all of our spirits are lifted.
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Shay Sora Kim: It's also because it's colder at times, and so they want to bond with us to not only like physically warm, but like internally warm us.
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Shay Sora Kim: And then so it's, yeah, that spirit is something like they get really excited about.
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Shay Sora Kim: So they'll tell me like, oh, tell my human I'm excited for Christmas, and I'm excited for them to be hosting or getting out of the house, things like that.
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Shay Sora Kim: And then the only other time that Christmas has been brought up in a reading is, you know, if they're using that to get something across that the human would understand.
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Shay Sora Kim: So typically that's like, if the cat was born around Christmas, or was given to them as a Christmas gift, or there's something significant around the holidays that they want to bring attention to, they'll usually show me like a Christmas tree as a symbol for that.
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Shay Sora Kim: But yeah, those are the reasons that they bring that up.
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Alexane Ricard: I remember, yeah, I remember you were like, oh, I think it was back in September, even August, and you were like, oh, it's sticky showing me Christmas.
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Alexane Ricard: Does that mean anything to you?
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Alexane Ricard: And I was like, well, I just love Christmas.
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Alexane Ricard: And you were like, oh, I think she's really excited because you're excited about Christmas.
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Alexane Ricard: So that was a way, I think, for you to show me also that pets and their owners are connected.
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Alexane Ricard: And when you feel excited, that's when your pet will feel excited.
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Alexane Ricard: And when you feel anxious, like when you're going to fly with your cat, then your cat will feel anxious because you're feeling anxious.
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Alexane Ricard: So that's kind of what the energy you were talking about, right?
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Shay Sora Kim: Yeah, we are so closely bonded to them.
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Shay Sora Kim: And I do believe that they're in our lives for a reason.
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Shay Sora Kim: And they spend a majority all their time, basically, with us in our home and very reliant on us.
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Shay Sora Kim: So yeah, so they really kind of become one in a lot of ways.
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Mary Tan: So in talking to pets, what kind of gifts do they like?
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Mary Tan: What are the popular ones?
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Mary Tan: What's a trend, I guess?
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Shay Sora Kim: The trend, that's the question.
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Shay Sora Kim: Well, it really depends on the individual cat because like humans, they seem to have different levels of awareness and really depends on what they feel like is important to share.
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Shay Sora Kim: So I'll have cats who tell me more surface, like that brand of catnip was weird, let's try this other one.
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Shay Sora Kim: Or a lot of the times I get like larger litter box would be cool.
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Alexane Ricard: Oh, okay.
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Shay Sora Kim: In terms of products.
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Shay Sora Kim: But then when we go deeper, a lot of cats will tell me that just the gift of their human presence is important.
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Shay Sora Kim: And just like spending not necessarily more time, but quality time, especially around the holidays, you know.
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Mary Tan: So are dogs the same way?
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Mary Tan: Oh, sorry, Alex.
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Alexane Ricard: No, no, go for it.
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Shay Sora Kim: It's an important question.
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Shay Sora Kim: Yes, dogs are the same way.
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Mary Tan: What about seniors dealing with seniors and then kittens and puppies?
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Mary Tan: Like, is that different too?
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Shay Sora Kim: In terms of what products that they bring up?
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Mary Tan: Or in terms of when they're talking to like maturity levels, does that come out?
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Shay Sora Kim: Yeah, well, you know, humans, despite the age, we all have very maturity levels and like different places in our journey.
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Shay Sora Kim: And so, you know, a senior woman, they just need a good laugh.
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Shay Sora Kim: And then their cats will send me messages that kind of bring that up for them or like memories.
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Shay Sora Kim: And then some, yeah, feel like wise souls and they're deeply bonded to their person and they're kind of here together.
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Shay Sora Kim: And then they often do kind of transition together.
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Shay Sora Kim: I've noticed that as well.
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Shay Sora Kim: And it really depends on, yeah, that unique bond and the individual cat or human.
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Alexane Ricard: And that's amazing.
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Alexane Ricard: Do you do pet readings as well for other pets?
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Alexane Ricard: So there's cats, there's dogs, but I don't know, if somebody has like a hedgehog or a raccoon.
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Alexane Ricard: Lizard.
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Alexane Ricard: A lizard.
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Alexane Ricard: Yeah, I don't know.
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Alexane Ricard: Is it harder?
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Alexane Ricard: Because I guess you have a cat too, familiar with cats, but when it's an animal, you might not be very familiar with like a hedgehog or a raccoon.
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Alexane Ricard: I don't know if you've ever owned those animals.
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Alexane Ricard: Is it a bit harder to try to connect with them?
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Shay Sora Kim: That's a great question.
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Shay Sora Kim: So because I have a special place for cats, I do get a lot of cat clients just because they like seem to be attracted to me.
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Shay Sora Kim: And so, but no, you can read any animal.
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Shay Sora Kim: It's not limited to one species because it all just sort of works the same.
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Shay Sora Kim: In terms of when, if it's harder or not, I would actually say in some instances that weeding, like a different animal, is easier for me, just because the information is so different and new.
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Shay Sora Kim: And I'm not, you know, we all have, we're humans, so we all have our own, like, pre-conditioned beliefs and biases.
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Shay Sora Kim: And so if I know a lot about cats already, so I have to kind of put that aside to just receive the information that I'm getting without rethinking it.
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Shay Sora Kim: And so if I know if it's like an alligator or a lizard or something like that, that it's like, I have no idea.
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Shay Sora Kim: I know nothing about lizards, you know?
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Shay Sora Kim: So I can just like accept the information as it's coming in and just have a little more of a relaxed, like fun time with it.
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Shay Sora Kim: But yeah, I've never read a hedgehog.
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Shay Sora Kim: I would love to, if anyone's ever read a hedgehog.
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Alexane Ricard: And so as the holidays are coming, I also know a lot of people, including me, we like to put costumes on our cats.
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Alexane Ricard: Well, Tzatziki does not like it, but I had some rescues that were fine with it.
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Alexane Ricard: And so to promote them to get adopted, we would put on, you know, like a little Santa Claus costume and that would help, you know, because the pictures are cute.
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Alexane Ricard: Did you ever have a cat tell you something about that?
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Alexane Ricard: Or have you ever felt like, I don't know, what do they feel like?
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Alexane Ricard: Does it feel like putting clothes on them like we do?
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Shay Sora Kim: Yeah, so, yeah, the tolerance level varies.
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Shay Sora Kim: I did get one cat who felt that the outfits didn't match their personality.
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Shay Sora Kim: So they'll kind of suggest, hey, you know, I don't want to be so cutesy, even though the human loves putting some cutesy, you know, sweaters or clothes on them.
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Shay Sora Kim: But it was never like out of severe judgment.
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Shay Sora Kim: It's more like, hey, like I would prefer, you knew this about my personality.
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Shay Sora Kim: But then for the most part, like when kittens and stuff there, it feels a little bit weird, but they're very tolerant of it.
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Shay Sora Kim: They sort of, if you talk to them about why it is that you love to put clothes on or what this is for, or, you know, we're dressing you up so we can take cute pictures of you for the holidays or to get you adopted, then they're pretty just on board.
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Alexane Ricard: That's interesting.
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Mary Tan: That's really cool.
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Mary Tan: So do you do any humans too?
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Alexane Ricard: Human readings?
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Mary Tan: Yeah.
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Mary Tan: Can you do humans too?
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Mary Tan: Like, can you read Mark?
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Shay Sora Kim: Well, the work is, yeah, I can really expand to that.
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Shay Sora Kim: I tend to focus on animals because that just, you know, is the most fun for me.
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Mary Tan: Oh, yeah.
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Mary Tan: Yeah.
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Mark Winter: I have a question.
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Shay Sora Kim: Well, go ahead.
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Mark Winter: Do cats know that they're cats?
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Mark Winter: Like our cats sit on the couch with us and they watch TV at night.
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Mark Winter: Now, do they see like when there's like a new car coming up for Christmas, you know, that they're advertising, is that something they might want?
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Mark Winter: Do they know they're a cat and they can't drive?
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Shay Sora Kim: I love that question.
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Shay Sora Kim: It's literally like I've seen the spectrum.
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Shay Sora Kim: So there are cats that, you know, are just happy to be here and they're just so happy to experience what it's like to be a cat in this lifetime.
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Shay Sora Kim: And then there are those souls that feel a bit more like they've been around the block.
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Shay Sora Kim: And so they know a thing or two about humans and our lifestyle.
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Shay Sora Kim: So it depends on the cat you have.
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Shay Sora Kim: I would say if they're watching TV, they could be like, these are just moving images.
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Shay Sora Kim: I don't know.
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Shay Sora Kim: But I am astounded by some of the images that they do give me, you know, like random products or human things.
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Shay Sora Kim: And I think a lot of the time that's because the humans are sending those pictures to the animal or talking about it a lot or like interested in that product.
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Shay Sora Kim: And so the animal kind of knows from that connection with their human what that might be.
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Shay Sora Kim: And so they give me kind of like a rough image of that and enough for the human to go, oh, I know what that is, makes sense.
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Alexane Ricard: Yeah, I remember Katsuzuki showed you the beach and Katsuzuki has never been to the beach, as far as I know, as long as she's been with me, she's never been to the beach.
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Alexane Ricard: But I've always told her, I will take you to the beach one day.
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Alexane Ricard: And then Shay one day was like, Katsuzuki is showing me a beach.
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Alexane Ricard: And I was like, no way.
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Alexane Ricard: She really wants to go to the beach, but she's never been.
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Alexane Ricard: And she like, it was so weird, like because I was talking about it, she knew what it was and like such a weird fame.
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Shay Sora Kim: Yeah.
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Shay Sora Kim: And she feels like a, you know, an older soul on the spectrum that I'm talking about as well.
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Shay Sora Kim: So it does feel that she knows, she has an idea of what the beach is.
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Shay Sora Kim: And I remember, yeah, she was showing me little crabbies, like she's excited to see the little ocean, creatures on the sand.
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Alexane Ricard: Well, and we went to the beach a couple of days ago, and she was actually on the rocks, and she's trying to get under the rocks, so where the crabs are.
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Alexane Ricard: And I was like, Tzatziki, don't go in there, because I'm never going to find you again, and I don't want to pull you.
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Alexane Ricard: So I didn't let her go, but see how incredible it is.
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Alexane Ricard: Like she really told you I want to see crabs, and she wanted to go into the crabs.
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Alexane Ricard: Wow.
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Alexane Ricard: That's mind blowing.
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Mary Tan: We got to take a break again, but when we come back, we're going to talk to Shay about how people react when they hear that she's an animal communicator.
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Mary Tan: So we'll be right back.
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Mary Tan: And we're back with Shay.
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Mary Tan: Shay, I have a question about you.
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Mary Tan: What about the skeptics out there that say, oh, that's not true, she can't do that.
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Mary Tan: What do you say to these people?
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Shay Sora Kim: Um, great question.
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Shay Sora Kim: I think that they are just, I totally accepting of where they are.
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Shay Sora Kim: And I just feel like, you know, it's not for me.
00:21:21.993 --> 00:21:25.433
Shay Sora Kim: They're not for me in that, you know, they need to find their own way.
00:21:26.093 --> 00:21:31.533
Shay Sora Kim: And, you know, there's no amount of me trying to convince them that's going to change that.
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Shay Sora Kim: So I trust God and the universe to kind of guide them to where they need to be.
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Shay Sora Kim: And I refuse any negativity in my way.
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Shay Sora Kim: Yeah, I really feel like, you know, I've been put here.
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Shay Sora Kim: I'm just one of many animal communicators, intuitive, here to help folks.
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Shay Sora Kim: And so I'm really here for the people who will most respond to me and that I can help and I can serve.
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Mary Tan: I love that.
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Alexane Ricard: That's a good PR advice also.
00:21:57.093 --> 00:21:59.673
Alexane Ricard: It's sometimes it's just not your crowd.
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Alexane Ricard: And no matter how much you try to please them, it won't work.
00:22:03.613 --> 00:22:08.793
Alexane Ricard: So just try to attract your own crowd and just try to promote yourself within that niche.
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Alexane Ricard: Because, yeah, what's the point of trying so hard to promote yourself to a skeptical that at the end, it's just going to give you negative reviews or negative advice because their mind won't be open and it might not work out.
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Shay Sora Kim: And that's what's big about this work is it requires us to be open and our animals want us to be open.
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Shay Sora Kim: So, you know, I do have clients who tell me that they're a tad skeptical, which is totally fine because if they're here, that means there's a part of them that does want to believe and doesn't want to like explore their relationship with their pet.
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Shay Sora Kim: And so if they're here, I trust that and I'm open to them being surprised.
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Shay Sora Kim: And I'm thrilled to be on that part of their journey with them.
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Shay Sora Kim: But it's those that are just like arms crossed, not willing to accept any in piece of information, you know, that, you know, is kind of a waste of time, you know, for both of us.
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Alexane Ricard: So, is there anything people should look out for when they're looking for an animal communicator?
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Alexane Ricard: Is there any like certification or anything they should look out?
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Shay Sora Kim: Yeah, so, you know, many animal communities out there are certified and so I like personally, I'm certified with the Danielle McKinnon School as a soul level animal communicator, meaning that not only do we get some physical evidence, but the point is to kind of go deeper into the soul level, which is where the pets will share more of the deeper lessons and why they're here in this life with you.
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Shay Sora Kim: And I, yeah, encourage folks to do a bit of digging, you know, maybe not go with the first person that you see, do some comparison, you know, there's a bunch of skill levels and price ranges.
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Shay Sora Kim: And ultimately I tell everyone just to trust your gut, trust your own intuition when you come across them.
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Alexane Ricard: And do you feel like your work is complimentary to a behaviorist or does it replace a behaviorist or how do you level up compared to a behaviorist?
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Shay Sora Kim: Yeah, I think it's complimentary.
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Shay Sora Kim: I think that these roles are all necessary.
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Shay Sora Kim: I'm studying some behavior myself and I think that really helped kind of fill in the pieces because the cats will only show me so much.
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Shay Sora Kim: And then when they want their he-men to kind of go through this deeper training with them, that behavior knowledge is really important in our like follow ups.
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Shay Sora Kim: So it's complimentary.
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Shay Sora Kim: I think that we could benefit from all the methods and modalities.
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Mary Tan: If somebody wants to give a session with an animal communicator, how do you find the right person?
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Mary Tan: Because is it kind of like finding like a mental health counselor too?
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Mary Tan: Like, sometimes you just got to find the right person, you know, maybe somebody only wants to tell their problems to somebody who's female or male, you know, that sort of thing.
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Shay Sora Kim: Yeah, that's a great way to put it.
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Shay Sora Kim: I think that we definitely need to be open to that trial and error process of finding someone that's a good fit.
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Shay Sora Kim: Just because, yeah, it's human to human.
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Shay Sora Kim: And so, if someone for some reason, unconscious or conscious, is triggered by me or doesn't feel comfortable sharing something with me or different intuitive, I would listen to that and look within as to what's coming up for you.
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Shay Sora Kim: And yeah, you really want to find someone that you can feel comfortable exploring this with, because because it's like a spiritual business, a lot of this is like intimate and personal.
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Shay Sora Kim: And yeah, you really want to take your time with that.
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Shay Sora Kim: And on the subject of gifting, I think that I personally take that relationship or bond between animal and human very seriously.
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Shay Sora Kim: And so sometimes, you know, if gifting is, it can be tricky because if you gift it to someone and they're not ready to receive that information or they're not ready to get any of those messages from their animal, then it's not the best time to have that reading.
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Shay Sora Kim: So I offer like gift certificate for them to use in their own time.
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Shay Sora Kim: But yeah, for the most part, I encourage, you know, you're ready, you should do the booking.
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Alexane Ricard: I love that.
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Alexane Ricard: And talking about the holidays again, so you know, sometimes it can be a bit stressful because some cats, some pets like Tzatziki are very excited about Christmas because I am.
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Alexane Ricard: But for some people, the holidays are also very stressful because they've got to cook for like 20 people, they've got to order the turkey, blah, blah, blah.
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Alexane Ricard: If you're stressed, how do you not communicate that to your pets?
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Alexane Ricard: So your pet feels a bit calmer on Christmas Day when all the family comes up.
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Shay Sora Kim: Yeah.
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Shay Sora Kim: Well, I often notice that animals, I'm thinking of like certain dogs, they come to you and they really want you to de-stress.
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Shay Sora Kim: So like they kind of feel it's their mission to be the one to remind you, hey, let's like slow down and let's take a breath.
00:26:53.973 --> 00:26:56.453
Shay Sora Kim: Or even they'll be like, let's go up for a walk.
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Shay Sora Kim: I need to get out of this house just to like reset, recalibrate, get away from all this like family chaotic energy.
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Shay Sora Kim: And so that's a good time to like listen to your pet because they're here to help you.
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Shay Sora Kim: Oh, on that walk, go take a moment for yourself.
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Shay Sora Kim: If suddenly you're out and, you know, your cat's image just flashes in your head and you feel like, oh, they need you or they want to be fed or something.
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Shay Sora Kim: Maybe listen to that because it could be them signaling, hey, you could leave the party a little bit earlier if you wanted to.
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Shay Sora Kim: Or they could say, hey, I'm good here.
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Shay Sora Kim: You can stay as long as you need.
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Shay Sora Kim: So they really are helping us.
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Shay Sora Kim: They're actively sending out that energy to help us de-stress over the holidays.
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Shay Sora Kim: But ultimately, if you're looking for a tip to, you know, better de-stress with them, I would just say like, take a moment and be present with them.
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Shay Sora Kim: Kind of like zone out everything and just focus on your animal.
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Shay Sora Kim: And that often helps with anxiety.
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Alexane Ricard: I love that.
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Alexane Ricard: And so if people are on Christmas, you know, they're like, oh my God, for Christmas, I really want to give my pet something new.
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Alexane Ricard: And maybe for a cat, it might be like a stroller or a leash and a harness or, I don't know, just something a bit, a new experience for them.
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Alexane Ricard: How can people know if it's a good idea or like how, like, I don't know, let's say Mary really wants her cat, Fleur, okay, at Christmas, I'm going to get her a harness and then she's going to become like an adventure cat in January, new resolution.
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Alexane Ricard: How can she know if that's a good idea or not?
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Alexane Ricard: Do you have any tips on that?
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Shay Sora Kim: Yeah, so our animals are pretty adaptable.
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Shay Sora Kim: They found us for a reason.
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Shay Sora Kim: And so if Mary wants to go on these adventures, then at some level, her animal knows that.
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Shay Sora Kim: So I would start with talking to them about it.
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Shay Sora Kim: Slow is the key word here, slow introductions.
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Shay Sora Kim: You know, there are some animals, of course, that are like, oh, what's this?
00:29:00.193 --> 00:29:04.633
Shay Sora Kim: And they're like excited about everything new and like their game.
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Shay Sora Kim: But for the most part, I say go slow.
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Shay Sora Kim: Start with having conversations with them about it and, you know, send pictures to them about what the experience would be like.
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Shay Sora Kim: And then, you know, if it's like a harness, then you can introduce it to them.
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Shay Sora Kim: And associate it as a positive thing with the treat.
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Shay Sora Kim: Like, oh, I'm excited about this new harness.
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Shay Sora Kim: Like, you need to feel as excited as you want your pet to be because they really get your energy as a cue.
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Shay Sora Kim: Congruence is the word that comes to mind.
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Shay Sora Kim: They really want to know that what you're saying matches how you're feeling.
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Shay Sora Kim: So if you are introducing this harness, but you're all full of like nerves about, do I like this?
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Shay Sora Kim: Do I not like this?
00:29:46.453 --> 00:29:51.753
Shay Sora Kim: It probably means like your animal is going to be confused about it as well.
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Shay Sora Kim: And so do your best to kind of figure out how to be congruent about your feelings and then your words.
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Shay Sora Kim: And then after a bit of time of introducing that, then putting it on them slowly and getting them used to it, then I feel like not only have you trained your pet to handle this new item that you're excited about, but you've trained yourself to be prepared to go take your animal out as well.
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Shay Sora Kim: A lot of folks are ready to jump in with this new product to change their lives, but really their animal wants them to change their own, they want them to feel ready as humans to go use this as well.
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Shay Sora Kim: Does that make sense?
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Alexane Ricard: Yeah, I guess the big takeout is your animal will feel what you feel, so you always have to be careful about how you feel about a situation for them to feel the way you want them to feel.
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Shay Sora Kim: Yeah.
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Alexane Ricard: I was like, wow, so many words.
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Shay Sora Kim: Yeah, you may not be as ready as you think, and your animal picks up on that.
00:30:54.293 --> 00:30:58.553
Shay Sora Kim: So we're trying to make sure you feel good about whatever it is you're going to do too.
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Shay Sora Kim: And sometimes that's not 100 percent perfect.
00:31:01.273 --> 00:31:06.153
Shay Sora Kim: You're not going to go out and try a new thing and feel completely confident because it's new.
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Shay Sora Kim: So they understand that.
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Shay Sora Kim: But if you're aware of that and then you go out on these adventures, you know, like you did to the beach, kind of, okay, game ready for whether or not they're going to accept it or how they're going to act, then for the most part, they'll show you like, okay, I can do this too.
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Shay Sora Kim: Like, she seems like she can handle whatever comes up, so I can handle that too.
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Mary Tan: That's amazing.
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Mary Tan: Wow, you're so talented, Shay.
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Mary Tan: So if people want to get ahold of you, what's the best way to do that?
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Shay Sora Kim: Yeah, so you can find me on Instagram at ShaySoraKim, just my name, and then also my website is shaysorakim.com.
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Mary Tan: All right.
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Mary Tan: Well, this was just an insightful interviewer, really amazed at your ability.
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Mary Tan: It's just amazing.
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Mary Tan: And then Alex with Tzatziki, it's just been amazing what you've told her and been able to do for her.
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Mary Tan: And I know Alex was so worried about the long plane ride from France to Canada.
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Mary Tan: So, wow.
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Mary Tan: Well, but we have to wrap up the show.
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Mary Tan: Unfortunately, we keep going and going.
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Mary Tan: We are so excited, of course, for all of you listeners out there.
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Mary Tan: And we really want to do this for you.
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Mary Tan: We are all about making life better for animals.
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Mary Tan: And of course, we are a public relations podcast.
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Mary Tan: And we want you to know that if you have a question for us that you want us to answer, please feel free to reach out to us on Instagram or Facebook under the Whisker Report.
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Mary Tan: And we're going to try to answer it in a future podcast episode.
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Mark Winter: And before we go, we want to wish you all happy holidays and leave you with my Christmas song, Christmas in the Air, by Mark Winter, available to stream everywhere.
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Mary Tan: So cool.
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Alexane Ricard: So as we always say, bakr loud and purr smart.
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Mary Tan: See ya, everyone.
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