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School Is Cool for Kittens and Puppies

Sophia Yin

Dr. Sophia Yin

Many recognize the importance of enrolling newly adopted pups in puppy pre-school, but guess what? Kittens also receive vital socialization skills by participating in kitten kindergarten classes with their owners. Special guest Sophia Yin, DVM, a veterinarian and applied animal behaviorist and author of How to Behave So Your Dog Behaves joins host Arden Moore to discuss ways to school our kittens and puppies in a fun, positive setting. Class is in session and the tails are a-wagging and the purrs are a-humming!

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Arden Moore: Welcome to the “Oh, Behave!” show on Per Life Radio. I'm your host, Arden Moore. Thank you for tuning in. Today, we have a special guest. She is Dr. Sophai Yin. She is in the San Francisco area and she's got more credentials after her name, I swear, than Vanna White has vowels. She's not only a veterinarian, but she's also an applied animal behaviorist. She sees clients, she makes house calls and she's the author of an amazing book called “How to Behave So Your Dog Behaves”.

So we're going to be talking to her today about those little ones. You know what I'm talking about? The kittens and puppies, with the holidays and the first of the year, it seems like more people are prone to adopt a little kitten or a puppy. They’ve got to realize, hey, folks, they grow up to be big dogs and big cats. So to help you get off on the right paw, we've invited Dr. Yin.

We will take a break and be right back to speak with her.

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Arden Moore: Welcome back to the “Oh, Behave!” show on Pet Life Radio. I'm your host, Arden Moore. As mentioned, we are positively, we're fortunate to have Dr. Sophia Yin with us as our special guest.

Dr. Yin, it's good to hear from you.

Dr. Sophia Yin: Well, thanks for having me here today.

Arden Moore: You have very, very many talents, and we want to let people know that, yes, you can get a kitten, you can get a puppy and you can train them so they grow up to be very well behaved dogs and cats. So what I'd like to do first is to talk to you a little bit about behavior, and of course the show is called “Oh, Behave!”

So sometimes isn’t it we accidentally unintentionally trip up these little beans by some of the actions that we do?

Dr. Sophia Yin: Yes, I think, exactly people don’t realize that every action that we have, every interaction with our animal, we're training the animal to do something. So every time we interact, we're either training them to do something we want or something we don’t want. So if we want them to behave correctly, we have to be aware of what we're doing. Animals learn how to behave because they're rewarded for those behaviors. So if they're behaving badly, it's because they’d actually been rewarded and were just not aware of it.

Arden Moore: Yes, can you give me an example for a dog or a cat that maybe something we do we don’t even realize that we're just reinforcing?

Dr. Sophia Yin: Well, for both dogs and cats, they like a lot of attention and they can both learn to do naughty things for attention. So for instance, dogs will frequently jump on people for attention, and people usually will try to push them off. Sometimes they’ll pet them and sometimes they’ll push them off. But it they're pushing them off, the dog is still getting attention.

Similarly with cats, often the kittens will come up and keep yelling and yelling until you do something, like feed them or pet them. By finally feeding them or finally petting them while they're being rude about it, we're actually rewarding those behaviors. Every time we do that and the longer we wait to do it, the stronger those behaviors will get. If we want quiet, polite behavior, where the dog or cat for instance sits politely instead of climbing on us or meowing or barking or jumping, we have to reward quiet calm behavior to get attention.

So actually in both cats and dogs, I reward them for sitting calmly for attention and other things that they want.

Arden Moore: So the next time I see you and I'm sitting politely at a dinner like we were recently, will you reward me with your dessert?

Dr. Sophia Yin: Yes, only if I know that you want my dessert.

Arden Moore: OK, and I promise not to jump up on you or [++].

Dr. Sophia Yin: OK.

Arden Moore: All right. What we're doing is it seems like at the holidays, people really, really, really just they get feel warm and fuzzy, and warm and fuzzy feelings also translate to, “Hey, you know what? It would be great if we could get a puppy or a kitten for the holidays.” What's your take on the timing of that? What kind of advice could you give people when they're looking around to get a new dog or a cat in their life?

Dr. Sophia Yin: Well, first I would say that Christmas time and the holiday times are not a good time to get a pet. Those are actually times when you're really, really busy and getting a pet is not like getting a video game. If you get a video game, you can play with it and then when you're tired, you turn it off and put it away. But if you get a dog or a puppy, it's like getting an 8-month old child, it's on all the time and constantly exploring and moving around and playing, and you don’t have an off button for that.

So what you're going to have is an animal that’s very energetic and does not know how to behave yet, and that is very energetic and you have to be ready to be rewarding correct behaviors and controlling the environment all the time when they're young. Remember, if you don’t control the environment and you reward them for the wrong behaviors, that’s what their behaviors are going to be when they get old except that they're going to be way worse because they're going to be bigger.

Arden Moore: Bigger, yes. The thing is I think what you hear people say all the time, “You know, isn’t he cute? It's OK he's jumping up. He's just a cute little puppy.” Or, “Isn’t that cat cute? How she just like kind of digs her claws into your thigh when you're watching TV? She's just a little kitty.”

Dr. Sophia Yin: Right.

Arden Moore: How do you deal with those [++]?

Dr. Sophia Yin: Well, I have a lot of videos and I show them what it looks like when the animals did.

Arden Moore: That’s good, good.

Dr. Sophia Yin: Right. So a lot of these behaviors for instance, dogs just climbing on your lap and using you or like your cat using you like a jungle gym. Well, imagine when you're trying to work and now you have the dog or cat trying to jump all over you and you don’t have an off button. You can't control it at all. Or, you're outside and you have guests over and your dog or cat won't stop bothering them. Your guests won't like your pet. You're like your pet and everybody else will hate your pet.

Arden Moore: Yes, we want everybody to like our pets. Come on, they're part of us.

Dr. Sophia Yin: Right, right. So really if you want a pet that's easy to get along all the time, they do need to learn some manners. They need to learn how to get along in the real world that you are going to want them to live in, not just the world of you and a couple other people in the family and in an environment that never changes. So the animal is going to be in an environment where things change and they need to be able to adopt so that they can experience the things that you want them to experience and be with you and enjoy the things that you want them to enjoy.

Arden Moore: Well, I'm really happy that you're my guest on the show. I'm going to be proper and call you Dr. Yin even though I know you're Sophia, but on the show--folks, please when you get a chance, go to She knows that we are a video visual kind of creator, if you will. On her site, she actually has some videos for both cats and dogs doing the right and the wrong way.

When we're talking about having puppies and kittens in our lives, people will seem to get the idea that it's important to have to go to a puppy preschool, if you will. In your book “How To Behave So Your Dog Behaves”, you address a lot of that. But it seems like now, felines--even though there's 90 million of them--are starting to get a little more attention in the behavior department. Kitty Kindergarten, what a great idea. Can you talk a little bit about that? How did you start them(?)? What's your take on it?

Dr. Sophia Yin: Right. Well, it's important for animals at a very young age to learn to accept the types of things that they're going to need to see later on in life. So for instance in the wild, animals when they're first born, they're not afraid of anything and they learn that whoever they're with and whoever is feeding them that’s their parents and their siblings. They're not afraid of the environment they're born in to. However, when they start to be able to walk around, it's important for them to start learning to be afraid of new things because otherwise, they're going to walk into a predator.

So that the default setting becomes that they're fearful of all new things, and when we get our pets, if we're not very careful to get them used to many new things when they're young, they're going to develop the default setting of being afraid of all new things. We actually want our kitties and puppies to be able to accept new people, we need them to cope with things that are going to happen in their real life.

For instance with kitties, a lot of times they just live in one house, and when visitors come over, they're scared. Maybe, this isn’t a big deal until maybe you get a boyfriend and they're scared of the boyfriend, so they start spraying because they're scared. Or, maybe you want to introduce another animal to the household, or you have more friends coming over. Or, when you have to travel and you need somebody to take care of your cat or your puppy even and they're not used to being alone or they're just very fearful so that they can't cope with that type of situation.

These are all things that regular people have to go through and if you don’t specifically try to socialize your kitty you can do it on your own or in kitty kindergaten, then they're not going to know how to cope with those things.

So what we do in Kitty Kindergarten is to get the owners to start socializing their kitty. We have maybe three to five or six kittens and owners learn how to handle the cats in different ways so the cats get used to handling.

Arden Moore: Give me some specifics. What do you mean, you pass the kitty?

Dr. Sophia Yin: By handling specifically, the owners have to learn how to hold the kittens right so the kittens don’t just learn to climb all over them. The kittens need to learn to be held--this is a hold calmly, hold still calmly, and in many different positions so they don’t get scared if the owner needs to put them on their back or [++] or hold them upside down. We want them to be able to let their owner handle them in any way that they’ll need to be handled later on. That includes the things like grooming, having their ears checked, having their mouth check. We want the cats to actually learn to enjoy these.

Now, a lot of people think that cats are very aloof and, “Oh, my cat doesn’t like being petted.” Well, if they had gotten that cat when it was young and handled it a lot, and also rewarded a lot with treats while they're doing that, they can train their cat to like being petted. You can completely change a kitten’s personality, one that’s really young. From many kittens, you can get kittens that are maybe rambunctious and not that interested and being affectionate, and if you handle them a lot, they can end up being more outgoing and enjoy being petted. But if you wait till they're old, then their personalities’ set.

Arden Moore: You got to admit, what you're doing is fun, too. You're getting a deal with these young little creatures that are simply adorable. Don’t you feel sometimes it's a big responsibility but you get a lot of enjoyment out of it as well?

Dr. Sophia Yin: Right. It is very fun to have a kitten. I think the more you know about interacting with them correctly, the more you can enjoy them because you’ll understand them a lot better. You'll understand why they use your pant leg as a toy. The reason they use your pant leg as a toy because as you scream and go, “Squeak!” just like a [++].

Arden Moore: I got you.

Dr. Sophia Yin: Or, you move around like a squeaky toy, so that’s fun for them. If you know that you should redirect their behavior towards an appropriate toy, then you won't get so frustrated at them and you'll still have fun playing with them. Or if you understand that the reason they meow and meow and won't let you study or sleep, it's because you keep rewarding them, then you can easily train them to sit and reward them for sitting when they want your attention. This is really easy to do. Cats can learn this in five minutes.

Arden Moore: Yes, is this sort of the target based training you have on your site? You even have a video of a cat being target trained.

Dr. Sophia Yin: Right. I teach all cats and dogs to sit automatically when they want something. Then, I use sit as a game, so I'm rewarding them with treats or pieces of kibble. So then I turn it into a game where when they sit, they get a treat; then I run a few steps and they sit and they get another treat. They learn to basically follow you and sit. So it becomes a fun game of chasing and sit, or like and on/off button game. Then you can use that as a come on call, too, because they're used to following you now when you do something.

So that’s the first thing that I teach them. They get lots of rewards for sitting because then you can use that as an alternate behavior or as a desirable behavior instead of having them perform other naughty behaviors. So for instance, dogs and cats, dogs like to jump, let's reward them for sitting instead.

Cats for instance--a lot of people don’t like it when their cat bothers them when they're on the couch. Sometimes it's OK, another times it's not. Well, they can reward the kitty for sitting with the treat and petting, or if they're working and they don’t want the cat on their computer, they can reward it for sitting quietly instead of meowing and jumping all over the computer.

So I teach all kittens and dogs an automatic sit and then we make that sit a fun game. Then the other thing that I teach for kittens, I teach them all to target, and that’s where they run and they touch a stick with a ball on the end. It gets stuck with their nose and that for a cat is like saying, “Fetch.” It's kind of like the dog version of fetch. Then you put the target out and have a run, touch it and they come back to you and get their treat.

You can use that to train them to put their head wherever you want it. So you can guide them to do tricks like spin or roll over or jump on and off certain objects. Now you have a way to direct exactly where you want them. So it's similar to playing with the toys but you have better control of exactly where their body is.

Arden Moore: Well, it sounds like they’ll, too, I don’t know with the kittens. They're full of energy and they're full of fun and they want to do things but they don’t seem to be the pleasers that dogs are. So when you're talking to people about Kitty Kindergarten, are there some things that you need to explain to them about the what's going on in that little feline brain and what's motivating them versus what would motivate a pup?

Dr. Sophia Yin: Well, it's similar. A lot of dogs couldn't care less what their humans think. People tend to think that some dogs are way smarter than others and it is true that some are smarter, but more often, if some are motivated for human attention and others couldn't care less, and we're using the wrong thing to motivate them. So people tend to think for instance that cats aren’t that bright because they're not motivated to work for your attention. Well, if you weren’t motivated to work for money, and somebody called you stupid because you didn’t want to go to work, you could be really smart and just know how to earn that money. So basically, I teach people to figure out what their animals do want.

Now, all animals have to eat to survive, so we use that to our advantage. So often I'll train kitties and puppies for their meals instead of just putting it in their bowl because out in the wild, they have to hunt for their food, they have to hunt or scavenge for their food. So it's kind of rude to just throw it in the bowl and that’s it, it's done in a couple of minutes.

Arden Moore: Yes, “Same old keeble, great, thanks, love you. Let me go now.”

Dr. Sophia Yin: Yes, and it's gone in two minutes. What happen to it?

Arden Moore: This is a good time for us to take a break because we're going to add more food for thought. We are speaking to Dr. Sophia Yin. She is the author of a very great book for all of you to dash out and get “How To Behave So Your Dog Behaves”. She has an amazing website, We're talking to her about puppy and kitten behavior. We’ll be right back after this message.

Announcer: Would you like to go out? [dogs barking]. Not you, I was talking to your owner. I'm on a date, baby. Yes, you and me. “Oh, Behave!” will be right back after these groovy shagadelic messages. Oh, yes!

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Announcer: We're switched back on, baby. Yes, so let's talk pets with our smashing host, pet educator, Arden Moore, and the groovy show that’s cool, baby. Really, shagadelic, “Oh, Behave!”

Arden Moore: Welcome back. You're listening to “Oh, Behave!” on Pet Life Radio. I'm your host, Arden Moore. We're talking about puppies and kittens. What a great topic. But puppies and kittens can be full of mischief. They can be full of wonder and we're trying to make those first year of their lives wonderful, thanks to our guest, Dr. Sophia Yin. She's in the San Francisco area. She is the author of “How to Behave So Your Dog Behaves”. She conducts both puppy and kitten kindergarten classes. She sees clients at the San Francisco Veterinary Specialists Clinic.

Here's where I think you should be given a [++] and honor, you actually go out and conduct behavior house calls so that you can help both the two and four leggers figure out how to have harmony in the household. We're talking a little bit about he food bowl. Dr. Yin, I just put food in the bowl for my two cats and my two dogs and they're like “Thank you very much” and they become furry vacuum cleaners and poof, it's gone. But for a kitten and a puppy that you're trying to train, how can you make the food time more productive and more of a training session?

Dr. Sophia Yin: Right. Even for adults and kittens, I never put food in the food bowl because to me that’s being lazy. So I always use their food for training or give them away that they can work for their food, so that the process of getting the food takes time, because then it's more fun. You won't just cut the meat off a bone so that the dog could just eat the meat, so it didn’t have to work to get the food off and cast love to hunt.

So, we want to use it to our advantage, and either train them to do tricks or whatever training I'm working on at that instant. So kitties are usually do targeting or sit and down or some tricks. Or if I don’t feel like doing that, I'll actually put the food in some type of food puzzle. Both cats and dogs have little toys that you can put food in that they have to roll around and so then, it takes them a lot longer to get the food.

But I'm a little bit lazy with the food toys because I can't find them around the house once the dog’s played with them. So what I do with kittens, is I like to use the food boxes. You can purchase or you can make a box, that’s just a cardboard box, maybe two inches high, cut holes on the top and holes from the side and just toss the kibble in and then the kitten or cat has to bat the food out of the hole from the side.

Arden Moore: Oh, awesome!

Dr. Sophia Yin: They stick their paws on the top and bat the food out, and what you'll find is they’ll may have a bowl of food--after they’ve learn to this--if they have a toy between a bowl of food or batting the food out of the box, they will usually choose to bat the food out of the box because that’s more fun.

Arden Moore: Well, it's the equivalent I guess of us going and having a great meal on the grill outside or reaching into our freezer and putting all those ready meals and [++] in the microwave. Right? I mean, what tastes better?

Dr. Sophia Yin: Right.

Arden Moore: It's having fun, yes.

Dr. Sophia Yin: Or, going for a meal that’s nicely decorated.

Arden Moore: Yes, yes.

Dr. Sophia Yin: It's nicely laid out versus just one that’s plopped right there.

Arden Moore: Yes, on a paper plate, so I guess we could think that our pets do have that same kind of distinguishing talents, they’d be able to “Oh, same old bowl” versus “Yes! We're on a food hunt!”

Dr. Sophia Yin: Right. Right. Now, it's a game.

Arden Moore: Yes. And it sounds like what you're doing this, so you're really helping the pet be mentally as well as physically stimulated. I don’t know, do cats get a bad rep? Some people seem to think that they're great because they don’t beg you to take them out for a walk and they're not like giving you slobbery, droopy, droolly kisses all day. But yet, cats they don’t want to live a life of boredom, do they?

Dr. Sophia Yin: Right. Out in the wild, they may hunt for about four hours a day for the feral cats, and if they're pregnant, they hunt a lot longer because they have to, but they do enjoy it. The house cats in our house, a lot of them are really energetic and they cause problems because they're energetic. So there's cats that come and attack your legs maybe because they don’t have other things to attack. Their play isn’t directed towards more appropriate things, or they're picking on another cat in the family because they have nothing better to do, so they're using their energies for evil.

I think a lot of time, what happens is they're so bored that they end up sleeping a lot more than they would if they have something better to do.

Arden Moore: That’s sad, that really is sad.

Dr. Sophia Yin: Yes. It's like somebody who only has TV to watch and they just sit around all day.

Arden Moore: Yes, I don’t have that problem. I'm sure you don’t, I know you don’t. You travel all over the place and you help a lot of people. My TV, it isn’t on very often because I'm dashing from one place to the other. There's this whole idea of Kitty Kindergarten, people might snicker at first, but what do you think the trend would be say five years form now, because it's really just in its infancy with this whole concept.

Dr. Sophia Yin: Well, I think that people realize that cats are great family members and they want to integrate their cats into more activities. They want their cats to interact with people who come over or they want to be able to take their cats somewhere else or they want to have a cat that they don’t have to worry about, being fearful and spraying the house because it's anxious. They're going to seek ways to address these issues, and the best way to address them is early on with socialization.

So I think as people become more and more aware that they actually address these behaviors or prevent the bad behaviors and shape their cat’s personality, they will be seeking more kitty kindergartens. People should go to their vet and specifically ask their vet if they run a kitty kindergarten. Their vet may not know yet and if their vet does not know, they can come to my website and find that information on what happens in a kitty kindergarten and where to get more information on how to run one.

Arden Moore: And that website for all you listeners is She is a veterinarian, she's also an applied animal behaviorist which means she's gone to school for a long time to make sure she's doing the right things positively for both dogs and cats.

With kittens, what happens after their first year? It seems like they're full of folly and sometimes, they really tone down quicker than a pup to a dog. Why is that would you say?

Dr. Sophia Yin: Yes, I don’t know why that is with cats. Some of them don’t slow down.

Arden Moore: Yes, Bengals or something, yes.

Dr. Sophia Yin: Right, some of them don’t slow down and I think part of the thing with dogs is they're getting tons of rewards for naughty behavior all the time because we interact with them a lot more. Cats are a little bit more independent, a lot of them are actually like dogs and the ones that are like dogs can tend to cause more problems for people because they're seeking more attention. Those are the ones that I think that don’t calm down as quickly because they're more attention-seeking and they want to be interacting with the person a lot. So people may consider them to be more of a nuisance because they're bothering them all the time.

Arden Moore: Well, with the kitten kindergarten, it doesn’t last normally as long as a puppy preschool. Correct? This is not as long of a program, isn’t it just a few weeks?

Dr. Sophia Yin: Yes, two to three weeks.

Arden Moore: Ok, so that’s not a lot of investment for a pretty good dividend, a well-behaved cat.

Dr. Sophia Yin: Right, and definitely you'd want to get them in for kitty kindergarten young because kitties aren’t going to get as much opportunities to socialize with other cats. So you want to start with them young because once they get older, it's very hard to socialize them. So with kittens, we’ll start them between close to seven or eight or nine weeks, but it's somewhere between seven and fourteen weeks, the younger the better because they can adjust. If they're afraid, they can adjust much faster than when they're older.

Puppies, we’ll get them definitely before 16 weeks, and notice that this is well before they finish their vaccines. Some people think that you should sequester your pet until they're done with their vaccines. Well, nobody would do that with their child. They don’t wait several years to take their child out for play date and to see that there is something outside of the house. So you definitely shouldn’t do that with your kitten or your puppy.

Arden Moore: How can you do it safely so that you may not be exposing the little kitten to some disease or something? Or do they build their immune system up as they get more exposed to folks and other creatures?

Dr. Sophia Yin: Well, you won't want to wait till they’ve had at least their first vaccine and they can't go to a kitty kindergarten until 10 days after that first vaccine. Then, when they go to a kitty kindergarten, we just make sure that all the other cats and kittens, that they're going to be exposed who are also vaccinated. So people can pick their kittens not just the kitty kindergarten, but they all want to practice in between, taking their kittens to friends’ houses or having friends come over. So the kitten is exposed to a lot of different people and learn that good things happen around these people. These people come with tuna or kitty treats.

Arden Moore: I always put a little tuna cologne around my neck when I'm meeting a new cat. They seem to love me, I don’t know why that is.

Dr. Sophia Yin: And do they taste you, too?

Arden Moore: Yes, I never get any dates from guys probably because I smell like tuna. I'm just kidding.

Well, but the point is, it sounds also what you're doing is you're getting the cat in a carrier in the car. Oh, my gosh! Things that normally bring terror in the hearts of grown cats. I have a friend who had a little kitten a Siamese named Cree that she has taken everywhere. The cat basically almost grabs the car keys now when she puts her coat on because she has such a great association with the car. So cats can enjoy cars, right?

Dr. Sophia Yin: Right, and they can love being in their crate, too. In fact, I recommend that everybody get a crate for their cat and feed their cat in the crate regularly until the kitten wants to go into the crate on its own and sleep. Then, wherever you travel, the kitty has a safe place to be.

Arden Moore: That sounds good.

Dr. Sophia Yin: And same with puppies, of course.

Arden Moore: Now, do you have any favorite as we wind our show down, Dr. Yin? Do you have any favorite kittens success story from one of you classes or one of your behavior house call consults?

Dr. Sophia Yin: Well, I had one student when I was teaching at UC Davis, and she got a new cat and she was worried because she was going to take care of somebody else’s dog and she was worried about her little kitten. So she brought her little kitten over and she got her used to my older dogs first, so my older dog is 14 and she's called, I think she's called Grandma Zoe now.

Arden Moore: Oh, that’s sweet.

Dr. Sophia Yin: Yes, Grandma Zoe to the kitten, so they got used to each other and I actually let her borrow Zoe so she could get her used to Zoe at her house. Then when she had to take care of the friend’s dog who was much more energetic and completely misbehaved, it was much better. The kitten didn’t completely freak out, it was actually OK and that type of situation. It took a little while to get used to the dog that wanted to climb all over her but she was much better prepared for that because she had at least gotten used to one dog.

Arden Moore: Well, see, that’s good. You're making your mark everywhere, Dr. Yin.

We are speaking to Dr. Sophia Yin, she's in San Francisco, she is a veterinarian and an applied animal behaviorist. Check out her website, and for the holidays and forever, you need to buy the book “How To Behave So Your Dog Behaves”. Sounds like there should be a cat sequel on the making there, Dr. Yin?

Dr. Sophia Yin: I don’t know, maybe.

Arden Moore: Yes. Dr. Yin, is there anything you'd like to mention before we sign off. Do you have anything coming up or how people can learn more about you?

Dr. Sophia Yin: Well, the best way I would say if you want to learn anything more about behavior or how to get into behavior or about behavior in any kind of animal, I have about 40-50 videos on my website and a ton of behavior articles, and my website is There's also the Veterinary Behavior Society and their website is

Arden Moore: OK. Well, thank you very much for being our guest for all the kittens and puppies out there. I just got to warn you, you've going to be learned how to be well behaved in a positive manner. Thanks to people like Dr. Yin.

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So, until next time, this is your flea-free host, Arden Moore, delivering just two words for all you two, three, and four leggers out there, “Oh, behave!”

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